That's cause their envious and can't wait when you join the club!

I hope I don't think of this thread while I'm flying!!![:'(]

My list of hobbies includes riding and racing motorcycles. I am sure that most of you have heard the old saying, "There are two types of bikers. Those that have been down and those that will go down." It fits here as well.

I myself, have never been down on the street .... notice I had to qualify that statement. I do have rash scars from racing "incidents" [:@]. And I have never crashed ... somebody else's plane. A few of my own planes have decided to take the journey home in a Glad yard bag though.

ill admit i actually flew my GWS mustang into the ground at about a 40 deg angle, no damage though and i have crashed more planes.

Flying for my second year and have never crashed.

We do have some strange geological evetns here in Nebraska though and the ground has actually jumped up and smacked three of my planes on several occasions.

Have suffered dumb thumbs and have grossly over estimated my ability a couple times. Its called a learning curve. Still is a whole lot of fun.

Eric

Gotta watch that ground, it's unpredictable some times! I myself have noticed that trees at times unroot themselves and replant right in front of your flight path! What's up with that?

I have noticed that also.

I think the tree hearders from Lord of the Rings are not fictitious creatures at all. The live at either end of my club field.

I had 20/20 vision in 15 years ago in High school why should I see the optometrist now?

Eric

Well now I've crashed a bunch. Had one lt-40 that had been repair 8 times until that explosive figure 9 that I executed perfectly in front of 25 or so people, just to prove I could. Actually I did put one crash on this plane on purpose. Had been up flying around, and having a great time decide it was time to land. Must have really been time to land dead stick on final, but the wind was just a bit gusty and that bird just didn't want to land. Landing in a west wind had me headed toward the road, and remembered seeing a couple of cars parked in the ditch watching, and I hear another car coming down the road. Nope, sorry honey you ain't going there nosed her into the ground from about 5 feet. She stopped real quick, and with just the firewall knocked loose. Sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

Still fly still crash still bother's me from time to time, But I'm still learnin.

Egor

When you stop learning you stop flying!!

Dude, i would have liked to see that!

I bet it was a lot like my full throttled NexStar into a tree

Most of my fellow fliers have trouble distinguishing my regular landings from crashes! Some takeoffs, too.


Andy

If you have never crashed you either haven't been flying long enough, or dont fly frequently. I like seeing guys who crash and then go off the deep end, cussing and kicking and so on. I have crashed countless planes over the last 10 years and have never gotten mad. I have been sad at the loss of certain planes, but when you fly often it can and will happen, especially when you attempt to push planes pass the limit you know they are capable of.

I remember once, I was flying a trainer plane (eagle or kadet maybe) at a very high altitude and decided to spin downward at full throttle. Didn't make it.....wing folded up and most of the plane was destroyed by the time it hit. I had to yank pretty hard to pull the Royal .40 out of the ground...but it lived.

Sorry, but I disagree.. This is not true. In most cases, maybe, but you do not have to crash, to learn.

There was a very respected seasoned flyer at the field one time that was test flying a new plane. He had done a few laps and got her trimmed out, she was a beautiful airplane. As he was doing a high speed fly over, you could hear the flutter. Everybody jumped out of from under the lean-to just in time to see this wonderful plane go straight down and smack into the top of a tree. The sound of balsa and covering disintegrating was loud and sickening. Most of the wreckage was stuck about 20 feet up in the tree. His major concern was getting it down so he could save his expensive servo's, which we did. The right hand aileron had failed and pulled out of the wing. The plane was a total lose, no question about re-building it. He told everybody that he just lost $3,000 worth of airplane. I came away with a different aspect about losing a plane after that. When I lose a cheap trainer, I think about this seasoned flyer losing his airplane and say to myself, it wasn't that bad! Even for a seasoned flyer such as him, he lost an airplane. Was told several years ago that every plane has a date written in the tail somewhere in invisibal ink when it was going to crash, you just didn't know what that date was. For those of you that's never crashed, it's a matter of time.

Chris.

I didn't crash when I was learning.......Sorry if it sounded like I was saying you crash when you learn, didn't mean it that way. Just that if you fly frequently, which I fly, if not every day, every 2 or 3 days for an hour or two. But hey, 100 crashes , though probably more, in ten years of flying at every available moment isn't bad. I also am one who believes crashing is a good thing, except for obviously having to trash or rebuild planes, because you learn, if you can figure out what caused the problem, what to look for and what not to do...on certain planes at least.

My friend Dave always told me his explanation of being so good was that he crashed more than me! Crashing happens and if your not willign to crash before each flight don't fly

Those are the comments the best pilots say at my field

"I always say to myself before each flight , I can crash this plane today! But, am i willing to accept it" <--friend Bill statement exactly

Dan

I have been flying for about 17 years and in that time have been an instructor and new plane test pilot. All up I have had about 23 crashes including 5 min fix ups. Out of these crashes all but 1 was pilot error. The one that wasn't was complete radio failure about 10 seconds after take off. After that plane had it's soul destroying arrival I lost my temper and dropped kicked the transmitter about 25' across the paddock. This is NOT recommended as it hurts your foot but in this instance it not only felt good for about 5 seconds until the pain kicked in but it also fixed the radio. Further investigation found a bad solder joint inside the TX so a more reliable solution was soon put in place.

As for those people who say they never crash it is my belief that you are either lying or don't fly, after all isn't a landing just a controlled crash any way lol.

"It's from the mistakes that we learn"

That's one of my favourite quotes. Crashes can happen more often during the training process (you never stop learning, you just finish your training when you learned enough to fly on your own), but after that. they will continue to happen. Maybe once each 10 years, but they will happen. This leads to another quote. "You may afford to buy, but you must afford to lose". With my Edge was like that. 6 months of intensive 3D flying and no mishaps. Up until one day, I decided to fly on a low Rx battery (got overconfident). Last inputs: up elevator (slight) and full throttle. Plane looped to the ground. It was a pure stupid thing. After a while, crashes due to pilot error get more rare (not inexistant), because of increased skill over the time, but crashes due to equipament failure, are always there, no matter the pilot skill.

Had my latest crash just this morning. As of this morning the only planes that
I have that have not been crashed are the 2 that have not been flown.

Nanuk

Ive never crashed ...But Ive ran out of altitude many times.....Ya gotta dig one in now and then to open up a flight pack for a new plane .

im building my first plane now (PT40) and hope to get it up in august or so. And I have to admit all this talk about crashing is getting me nervous[X(]. It sounds like a crash is the same as total doomsday or so. I guess most "crashes" are cured by CA/Epoxy, right? As long as the expensive radio and engine survives, it should be fine. The rest is just wood anyway.

Maybe you should stop calling it crashes, as its such a hard cruel word, and just call it something like "bad landings", or "missed landing oportunity", "indicents" or "midflight abnormalities" (that last one was cool ).

How's about "Deceleration Sickness"!

I prefer "Arrival"...

A Good landing means you can fly the plane again.
A Great landing means you can fly the plane again Today

Roger