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Old 05-04-2004, 08:06 PM
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they decided not to support it so we removed it.
Old 05-07-2004, 08:20 PM
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What was the reason they gave? Was this the VMAR manufacturer or just the distributor?
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I think richmond rc which distributes vmar
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Looks like they lasted about as long as the ARF's they sell ;-]
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Looks like they lasted about as long as the ARF's they sell ;-]

Actually erick royer here just did a review of a vmar trainer and he loved the darn thing. He said it was really well built and he has a blast flying it. This from a guy who loves flying 3D planes...go figure.
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Different strokes for different folks I guess...
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that vmar direct support forum belonged in the crash pictures and descussion forum. they came in here and they probably got so much negative feedback that they simply left. i doubt they will find a better mfg to sell though. they dont take the hint. years of selling POS and they still dont get it... probably the reason he loved it was because it is kinda hard to screw up too badly on a trainer. it will still be stable, and it shouldn't be too heavy because of the general design.
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Funny thing about Vmar... There designs are great and the planes I have flown/seen all fly great... Problem is the funny wood they use warps like crazy and there covering which looks nice initially doesn't stand up.... IMHO if they would use all balsa and ply and switch to a better covering they would have some real winners...
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it would help a lot but they would still need some design changes i think. i have found that they do stuff like shorten the fuselage on the cap to save weight while making controls very inneficient. most of the problem though i think is their wood. they are a little heavy i think
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One man's opinion...

Richmond RC is not a giant operation and they are pretty well committed to importing from the S.E. Asia/Vietnam area. One problem for their source is the poor availability of good balsa, etc. at competitive prices. The types of covering they use are not to the standards that other ARF suppliers have evolved and Richmond doesn't seem to 'want' to change. Lets face it, the guy has a niche in the market and is making enough profit to get by, so he's not motivated to compete with higher tier importers/suppliers. VMAR is what it is and as long as he's selling at an acceptable rate. It seems the business decision will stay as it is. It's a shame since they have some neat planes and ingenious construction concepts weighed down in mediocre materials and such.

It's a business, not a quest for the best ARF in the market for them, albeit with good intentions. In another field, I've been there and have the T-shirt to prove it.

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but still. I got my extreme flight yak for just over $100 more and it has the most beautiful construction i have ever seen, uses real oracover (not the cheaper film stuff that is made by them that they usually use) and it is considerably larger, yet weighs just as much. came with CF wingtube and composite lg and such all standard. totally oposite ends of the market for only $100 more. i think that vmar should start selling some better models too so that their reputation wont be so tarnished
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They probably got tired of all the negative posts.I recently purchased 2 engine stands from them.I chose to have them overnighted so I would have had the one that was for me to run an engine I have.They took it upon themselves to change it to ground shipping.OK you say maybe it was a mistake.So I called and started the conversation with the ?itch that answered the phone in a very polite manner thinking that it was a mistake.Maybe she's just tired of all the negative phone calls.I know it will be the last time I deal with the.

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