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guille2006 09-28-2011 11:45 PM

Strange guys asking basic questions
 
We red here in this forum several uys asking for "help building a fast airmodel for carrying some payload... I have no experience"
Being a UAV designer (and maybe chacking the possibility of getting a job to do) sent a couple of PM to those persons asking quostions such: "what do you want to carry?, how far do you want to go? Who is funding?". No need to say, the answers I received were more than poor...

Said so; read this and think twice before answering those persons:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...using_exp.html

Regards;

Guille

Joystick TX 09-29-2011 10:12 AM

RE: Strange guys asking basic questions
 


I have some serious problems with the mental state of this man and also with his education.

His choice of model planes for carrying a payload of 50 lbs of plastic explosives and hand grenades leads me to believe he is more just a little off his nut. A scale F-4 and a scale F-86 are pretty well at the high end of their performance envelope already. I can't tell for sure, but they don't even look like the turbine versions of the models.

For someone with a degree in physics, he could not have picked worse airplanes to carry his heavy payload, so I question if he really graduated or if the college is just a diploma mill.</p>

mboland 09-29-2011 12:33 PM

RE: Strange guys asking basic questions
 
He may have a physics degree (yes, it doesn't say much for the university) but he sure flunked Aerodynamics.

But if you want to get the un-enlightened shivering in their boots, just show a jet fighter model purported to be packed with explosive.

The guy's a dick, plain and simple.

guille2006 09-29-2011 12:37 PM

RE: Strange guys asking basic questions
 
What if... What if it's all a fake? Just asking; but I do still have my doubts...

Joystick TX 09-29-2011 02:21 PM

RE: Strange guys asking basic questions
 
The problem is the public perception that we are a major threat because we fly model planes.

They used to just hate us because of the noise, now we have mufflers and electric airplanes and still get complaints.

Last year  was stopped by the police for flying my electric Senorita because of a noise complaint. I asked how much noise I was making and what noise level was allowed and he said it didn't matter how much noise I was making, there was a complaint and I had to stop.

I wrote the AMA and they said the cop was right, I have no right to make any noise.

I converted it back to nitro since noise is not really a factor with the complaints.


rcgadget2000 09-29-2011 06:16 PM

RE: Strange guys asking basic questions
 
Hey guys ive came into 3 of the carl golberg mig 27 drones anybody have any idea how well thes thing fly

MetallicaJunkie 09-30-2011 06:58 AM

RE: Strange guys asking basic questions
 


ORIGINAL: rcgadget2000

Hey guys ive came into 3 of the carl golberg mig 27 drones anybody have any idea how well thes thing fly
they fly like crap

Joystick TX 09-30-2011 02:45 PM

RE: Strange guys asking basic questions
 


ORIGINAL: MetallicaJunkie



ORIGINAL: rcgadget2000

Hey guys ive came into 3 of the carl golberg mig 27 drones anybody have any idea how well thes thing fly
they fly like crap
I'm sure they fly much better after you add GPS, autopilot, a few hand grenades and 50 pounds of plastic explosives.

Tired Old Man 10-20-2011 08:40 PM

RE: Strange guys asking basic questions
 


ORIGINAL: Joystick TX

I'm sure they fly much better after you add GPS, autopilot, a few hand grenades and 50 pounds of plastic explosives.


The previous post is why this kind of forum should be closed forever. The site is open to anyone to read and all they need to do is intrepret that post badly.

guille2006 10-20-2011 09:36 PM

RE: Strange guys asking basic questions
 
C'mon T.O.M.; it's obvious that joystick is just kidding... IT'S OBVIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!
Besides it's not true; something that flyies like crap, will fly like crap even with the best autopilot.
Take it easy my friend...
Cheers
Guille

Joystick TX 10-21-2011 04:47 AM

RE: Strange guys asking basic questions
 


ORIGINAL: Tired Old Man



ORIGINAL: Joystick TX

I'm sure they fly much better after you add GPS, autopilot, a few hand grenades and 50 pounds of plastic explosives.


The previous post is why this kind of forum should be closed forever. The site is open to anyone to read and all they need to do is intrepret that post badly.
Sorry T.O.M.,, but this forum is not where the terrorists are getting all of their valuable weapons information. The Internet already has instructions to build almost every weapon known to mankind.

My point is that anyone who thinks he can "destroy" the pentagon, or any other major building, with a model plane is an idiot. I'm repeating what the news media said he was going to put on the model planes that he had. The public perception, and apparently yours too,is that he could actually add all that weight to those planes and make a viable weapon of mass destruction.I thought it would be obvious to anyone who fliesmodelplanesthat his plan was nuts.

Get one of the scale model planeslike he hadand add 30 lbs of ballast to it and then, if it will get off the ground, add the autopilot and GPS. Give me a call when you have "taught" it todoaspot landing in a 6' circle. I would like to come watch it.

There are cheaper, easier and more reliable ways to blow up things than with model planes.Yes, it is possible to use them to do some damage. It is also possible to do damage with a can of gasoline, or a ball point pen, or a bag of marshmallows. I'm a retired weapons integration engineer so I do have some experience in this area. I also have UAV design experience, so I know how hard it is to do what he said he was going to do.


guille2006 10-21-2011 05:28 AM

RE: Strange guys asking basic questions
 
I remember several years ago, a new zeland man built and published in the net "Build you own cruise missile at home". He explained every detail and he pointed also that he spent "only" U$10.000 for doing it... The result was a flying machine very similar to the Nazi V1 and on a first look very capable of doing "the misson". What I don't remember is about the payload...
In any case, no flight report was published, My guess is authorities took place.

Bozarth 10-24-2011 12:02 AM

RE: Strange guys asking basic questions
 
Take a look at the post in the Aerodynamics forum titled "Not sure if the numbers look right." The OP has a "friend" who wants a go fast plane that can carry a 25lb payload and isn't really interested in learning how to land it quite yet????? But, don't worry, if's he's an actual student looking for legitimate suggestions, he is surely getting them.

Kurt

FLYBOY 11-03-2011 05:12 PM

RE: Strange guys asking basic questions
 
I have argued about this one for years. I have discouraged talking about it here for the reasons above, idiots that shouldn't be doing it doing the wrong things.

Now I find myself looking for info on it and building a plane for it to do aerial video with the gopro camera. It does amazing HD vids and would be cool to do FPV with. Strange dilemma to have. There is a guy here who has done quite a bit of it. I have to get with him and check it out.

No matter what you do, make sure you do it safe and stay away from the airports so we don't lose the right to do it.


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