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Old 01-16-2021, 10:00 AM
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I see the step-by-step instructions, thanks! It would be great to see short video of the process :-)

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Hello everyone , for a year and so I had those prop drives made and never lested on the site.I sold them on call based orders.
We have the prop drives that are designed to solve ALL the timing issues. The Over Timed issue and between the Cylinders in all series FG19-FG33_FG60 and FG84/90. The FG73 is just over timed. The timing between cylinders is correct..
You can find all on the CH Site.
https://ch-ignitions.com/product-cat...drive-upgrade/

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Old 01-16-2021, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by CH Ignitions View Post
Hello everyone , for a year and so I had those prop drives made and never lested on the site.I sold them on call based orders.
We have the prop drives that are designed to solve ALL the timing inssues. The Over Timed issue and between the Cylinders in all series FG19-FG33_FG60 and FG84/90. The FG73 is just over timed. The timing between cylinders is correct..
You can find all on the CH Site.
https://ch-ignitions.com/product-cat...drive-upgrade/

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I replaced the drive flange on my engine to correct the timing problem and the engine just runs "sweet".
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Originally Posted by nswords View Post
I have it in a TF FW190 and it flys well,not quite as fast as a 55 cc gas but the sound make up for it.
It is a beautiful sound! My favorite maneuver is to taxi back to the pits with the engine just above idle. As far as power goes, the DLE 55 is rated at 5.5 hp and the R60 is rated at 4.5 hp.
Old 01-16-2021, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by marksp View Post
I see the step-by-step instructions, thanks! It would be great to see short video of the process :-)
Hey Adrian. Does Keleo make a ring for my Saito 325r5?
I boogered up my OEM trying to weld it after a crack opened up on it.

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Yes I make them. Now the FG75 will fit the FA325 . I made it to be compatible.

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Old 01-16-2021, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by marksp View Post
I see the step-by-step instructions, thanks! It would be great to see short video of the process :-)

I will try to do it next week . The process is so simple, I made it preset so you donot have to do any guess work.
But I will make a video.
The process is the same for all 5 engines. I will use I think the FG 90 that I have .

Thank you
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Old 01-17-2021, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by CH Ignitions View Post
...But I will make a video. The process is the same for all 5 engines.
Thank you
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Right on!
Old 01-17-2021, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CH Ignitions View Post
Yes I make them. Now the FG75 will fit the FA325 . I made it to be compatible.

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Adrian
Cool AdrianWill the magnum/asp ring fit the OS Sirius fr300 orinigal five cylinder?
Old 01-26-2021, 06:39 PM
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This is not the place for this topic , I do not want to take over with other than Engine stuff.
NO it is different.

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Old 02-21-2021, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by hpergm View Post
One more: first flight of a Top Flite FW190A with an FG-60R3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_MYY0NlbQY Prop is an APC 22x10 with a top end of 6,800. Mix was 1:20, using Castrol Synthetic. The engine tuned easily (6.5 turns out on the low and ~2.5 turns out on the High) and Ran like clockwork.

The on-board telemetry sensors for temps (1 per cylinder) showed only a deviation of <2degrees C on the ground (idle) and in flight for (mid-range)..! Seems like the careful running-in (see previous posts) paid dividents.. Temp range was between 80-90C on the ground.

Note: readings are taken between the fins just below the spark plug, on the rear side (to avoid speed/cooling effect of oncoming airflow). In reality, CHTs will be 30-40C higher on near the top of the combustion chamber.

A +20C difference between Nos 2&3 and No.1 (top cylinder) was recorder after prolonged mid/high throttle settings in the air. This was expected due to the relief airflow arrangement in the cowl (louvres only on the bottom side for scale reasons suck more cooling air around the bottom cylinders...).

A Happy customer!
Very nice!!

Where did you get the radial engine dummy or is it selfe made?

Regards, Dave

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Hey,

here‘s a the video of my fg60 break-in.
Unfotunately it‘s in German 🙈
Hope you enjoy anyway...


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Old 02-21-2021, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CH Ignitions View Post
I will try to do it next week . The process is so simple, I made it preset so you donot have to do any guess work.
But I will make a video.
The process is the same for all 5 engines. I will use I think the FG 90 that I have .

Thank you
Adrian
Have you had time to make the video yet? If so where is it posted?
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Old 02-22-2021, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Trommeldave View Post
Very nice!!
Where did you get the radial engine dummy or is it selfe made?
Regards, Dave
Hi Dave, the dummy engine was included with the TF kit. Just painted it...
Old 02-22-2021, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by hpergm View Post
Hi Dave, the dummy engine was included with the TF kit. Just painted it...
ok, thanks
Old 03-25-2021, 10:21 AM
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Bonjour comment avez vous fait la modification ?
Old 04-18-2021, 03:24 AM
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Old 04-19-2021, 06:27 AM
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Default Fa 170 r3 ?

Hi ...
I am new to this thread and trying to understand if I got my self a big problem or not ?
Have e nib engine and have ordered a Morris mini motor ignition.
Reading posts here (not all) and getting increasingly confused cause my engine is new and I honestly hoped
it was a good engine.. I also noticed that Morris mini motor are selling a modified intake manifold (very expensive)
Is it possible to do modifications on the original manifold ?

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Old 04-19-2021, 11:47 AM
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RoKit, not sure u are on the right forum for your engine, this one is for the Saito FG-60R3...
Old 04-19-2021, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DeeCee 57 View Post
RoKit, not sure u are on the right forum for your engine, this one is for the Saito FG-60R3...

Thanks, but I can´t find a FA170R3 forum and was thinking that the R3 series are more or less the same design and only "scaled"..
Hoping for some experience to be shared..
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Originally Posted by RoKit View Post
Thanks, but I can´t find a FA170R3 forum and was thinking that the R3 series are more or less the same design and only "scaled"..
Hoping for some experience to be shared..
Start one Rokit. Maybe on the R450 too. Folks that watch this Saito thread are very specific.
I have several of these triples and so do my flying buddies. Maybe a general Saito radial thread would be a better option for those of us with a wider range of Saito interests.
Just sayingAaron-
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I didn't realize you were asking about another engine if its a recently introduced (I hadn't noticed) engine maybe they have addressed the issues that have plagued the 160 engines.
When you get your timing kit before you take anything apart, determine what the factory timing is set to if its about 28 degrees it is safe as not too early and
I wouldn't change anything. Run it like its a properly set up engine from the factory and have fun report back any issues.
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Originally Posted by elmshoot View Post
I didn't realize you were asking about another engine if its a recently introduced (I hadn't noticed) engine maybe they have addressed the issues that have plagued the 160 engines.
When you get your timing kit before you take anything apart, determine what the factory timing is set to if its about 28 degrees it is safe as not too early and
I wouldn't change anything. Run it like its a properly set up engine from the factory and have fun report back any issues.
Sparky
Amen.
I haven't had any issues with mine. And haven't seen a failure of any at our field.
I feel most of that was a result of a disgruntled owner with too much money that bought a lemon used and besmirched the line of perfectly acceptable engines when it failed catastrophically.
Options made by others may have been improvements and we're accepted by Saito eventually. But overall I have a high opinion of the Saito offerings in radial designs.
Just sayingAaron-
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Originally Posted by Hyjinx View Post
Start one Rokit. Maybe on the R450 too. Folks that watch this Saito thread are very specific.
I have several of these triples and so do my flying buddies. Maybe a general Saito radial thread would be a better option for those of us with a wider range of Saito interests.
Just sayingAaron-
Originally Posted by elmshoot View Post
I didn't realize you were asking about another engine if its a recently introduced (I hadn't noticed) engine maybe they have addressed the issues that have plagued the 160 engines.
When you get your timing kit before you take anything apart, determine what the factory timing is set to if its about 28 degrees it is safe as not too early and
I wouldn't change anything. Run it like its a properly set up engine from the factory and have fun report back any issues.
Sparky
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Amen.
I haven't had any issues with mine. And haven't seen a failure of any at our field.
I feel most of that was a result of a disgruntled owner with too much money that bought a lemon used and besmirched the line of perfectly acceptable engines when it failed catastrophically.
Options made by others may have been improvements and we're accepted by Saito eventually. But overall I have a high opinion of the Saito offerings in radial designs.
Just sayingAaron-
Thank you gentlemen.
As soon as my ignition arrives I will start to mount it on and do some tuning.. Will post the results.
The advice from Morris mini motors is 30dg from tdc, I suppose that 28-32 will be ok to "play" with ?
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Originally Posted by RoKit View Post
Thank you gentlemen.
As soon as my ignition arrives I will start to mount it on and do some tuning.. Will post the results.
The advice from Morris mini motors is 30dg from tdc, I suppose that 28-32 will be ok to "play" with ?
yep that's the ball park for accepted timing.
Make sure you run plenty of oil, I doubt you will have any issues!
Sparky
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Hi guys, i am having midrange issues with my 60r3. I ran this motor in and it seemed to run fine in the gsrage. Took it to the field yesterday and couldnt get it to run in half throttle. Runs fine at idle and full speed but wants to die at half. Fuel draw is no problem, reset low end needle to suggested 6 turns out.
any suggestions? This is a newly purchased motor.

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