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Old 05-18-2015, 09:54 AM
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Default 20-26 cc gas engine -recommendation?

I have ordered one of the new Seagull (SIG) Jungmeister ARTFs

I was thinking of a DLE 20RA - the rear exhaust seems as if it will fit particularly well

However I have just noticed the RCG 20 and 26 cc available from Hobby King. The 26 seems very cheap and swings a largish prop -ideal with a big radial cowl.

Anybody care to give me some recommendations for an engine this size?
Old 05-18-2015, 10:28 AM
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I have had great luck with my DLE 20. It is the side exhaust version. I have 4 other DLE engines and they all run great.
Old 05-18-2015, 02:19 PM
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I'd stick with a winner!
Old 05-18-2015, 03:16 PM
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I and a number of my club members have great luck with the Valley View 20 and 21, the price is right and service great!
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I'm a fan of the RCGF engines.

Regarding that 26, it's an older design so it's going to be a little heavier than the latest and greatest (heavier than the DLE 30 if I remember right). Although mine has been fine, there are also some people that have had trouble with the prop hub on that engine. Other than that it's a great engine that does a nice job with an 18" prop.

The 20cc RCG beam mount engine is identical to an RCGF engine - the difference being, there is very little (might as well say none) customer service available from HK should you have an issue of any kind with it. For most, this makes the difference in price RCG vs. RCGF worth what it cost to get the RCGF from a full service dealer.
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My experiance with Hobby King has been less than stellar and having to deal with China (slow boat?) in my opinion is not the best of circumstances. Valley View is in the Seattle area and will do what is necessary there
and they have a great reputation of doing the right thing by customers. Comparing their engines with DLE, there is really not much difference other than cost. We have both at our club...........so a side by side is easy to do!
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I would stick with Valley view, regardless of which engine you choose. HK should be avoided. VV gives great service, and will support you after your purchase.
Old 05-19-2015, 09:10 AM
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Valley View and DLE 20cc are great and reliable engines and you couldn't go wrong on getting either one. I really like the OS GT-22 which is a great engine and very reliable but expensive. If you can, buy it from Tower Hobbys. They have the best customer service if needed. Stay away from the rcg 20 Hobby King engine.
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I don't think you guys have noticed my address

Anything direct from the US has huge freight charges (I am not sure why when from China they throw the post in for free) so VV are out and I can't find a local source for RGCF
so that seems to narrow it down to RGC (not sure how different this to RGCF) from Hobby King's UK warehouse or DLE.

I am inclining to the latter despite it being about 60% more

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Old 05-19-2015, 11:44 AM
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Al's is not an option?

http://alshobbies.com/shop/cat.php?id=702
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Thanks -you spotted something i hadn't found

How are RCG and RCGF related?
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What about Tower? Would the shipping costs still be that high?
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I have both, and they're the same in my experience. To the point RCG product is often received in RCGF packaging. The difference is support. If you think you may need it, for warranty, tech advice, whatever, consider buying from somebody that provides it. HK does not (not in a timely manner anyway - they are OK on warranty if you have the time and patience to deal with them). it's that simple.

I do all of my own work, so to me, if I can get something cheap enough to gamble it's going to arrive in functional condition, I'm money ahead. It's up to you.
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good luck from hobby king
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How about MVVS? They make excellent engines and are much closer to you!

Several of my first engines were "brand-X" and were really didn't work out well..........
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+1 on that Gizmo.....
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I got one of the cheap RCGF 26's from Hobby King. It's mounted on a Seagull Models Laser 200. I'm using a APC 18-8 prop and getting 8,000 RPM. I didn't like the supplied muffler so I made my own. I read all the TRASH comments that some people on this forum love to make and took mine apart and mine has FAG bearings in it. I have over 50 flights on it so far and it keeps getting stronger.


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hard to beat the Zenoah..to h#&& with HK
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I've got a DLE 20 side -exhaust with a factory muffler on a Great Planes PT-17. It turns an 18x6 with a lot of enthusiasm and should work well on the Jungmeister.
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Originally Posted by Lifer View Post
I've got a DLE 20 side -exhaust with a factory muffler on a Great Planes PT-17. It turns an 18x6 with a lot of enthusiasm and should work well on the Jungmeister.
I have the same setup and mine weighs 14 lbs and fly's very scale like. Funny how we miss the small details like where you live. Ooops
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I have an NGH 26 and I believe its the best Chinese engine for that size. With its front intake it avoids any trouble with that nasty flapper in the back
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I put the OS GT-22 in the Great Planes PT-17. It pulls it with plenty of power. It is by far the best 20CC size engine out there.
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Nice plane!!!!!!!!
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Recently got an RCGF from BP Hobbies. $179. Started easy, good idle, turns a Master Airscrew 16-8 three blade prop 8,100 to 8,200 rpm. I used a pitts muffler I already had and works great. A little heavier than some of the newer engines, but I needed the weight anyway. Only about 10 flights on it but ok so far.
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That was an RCGF 26cc.

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