engine for ultra stick lite 120
01-25-2005, 08:34 PM
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engine for ultra stick lite 120
can some one help me pick one? I'm new to rc plane. I have a new ultrs stick 120. looks like a saito 180 would work vary good, but a gas engine has it's good point. maybe a g26. give a newbe some help. Thanks. I do have 4 glow planes.
01-25-2005, 11:21 PM
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RE: engine for ultra stick lite 120
I would think that a g26 conversion from http://rcignitions.com/ would be a great match. I have one and it runs GREAT! Needles seemed a little funny at first, but that was probably me. Sweet, Sweet little motor. Thanx again Ralph.
01-26-2005, 03:23 PM
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RE: engine for ultra stick lite 120
I'm putting a 3W24 on mine. It will turn a 18x8 @ 8k. Try that with a G26. It will also turn a 18x10 @ 7500. It will out pull any 24-26cc motor out there on a muffler. The MVVS boys will have you install a pipe to get the same power. You can pick up a used 3W for around $350. Check out the marketplace.
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01-26-2005, 03:54 PM
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RE: engine for ultra stick lite 120
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I'm putting a 3W24 on mine. It will turn a 18x8 @ 8k. Try that with a G26. It will also turn a 18x10 @ 7500. It will out pull any 24-26cc motor out there on a muffler. The MVVS boys will have you install a pipe to get the same power. You can pick up a used 3W for around $350. Check out the marketplace.
Chris
I'm putting a 3W24 on mine. It will turn a 18x8 @ 8k. Try that with a G26. It will also turn a 18x10 @ 7500. It will out pull any 24-26cc motor out there on a muffler. The MVVS boys will have you install a pipe to get the same power. You can pick up a used 3W for around $350. Check out the marketplace.
Chris
G26's like higher rpms.
01-26-2005, 04:05 PM
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RE: engine for ultra stick lite 120
If you want the cheapest, easiest route.. the G26 on a Bennett muffler is the way to go.. total package $300
Of course, the MVVS 26, 3W-24, or Ralph's conversions will make more power, but you will pay more too. I chose to lighten the crap out of my plane so that the G26 would pull it around the sky with the same authority as a more powerful engine, yet it weighs so little people hardly believe it!
I took out so much weight that I actually was able to cut my wings down one bay on each side... flies the same!
I am a little over 9 pounds on a G26.. typically they run over 11 pounds. While the wings can handle the weight even up to 12 pounds, the lighter it is the more fun it is to fly!
I admit I took the extreme, but it was well worth it. Changing the gear and stock wheels alone saved 7 oz!
DP
Of course, the MVVS 26, 3W-24, or Ralph's conversions will make more power, but you will pay more too. I chose to lighten the crap out of my plane so that the G26 would pull it around the sky with the same authority as a more powerful engine, yet it weighs so little people hardly believe it!
I took out so much weight that I actually was able to cut my wings down one bay on each side... flies the same!
I am a little over 9 pounds on a G26.. typically they run over 11 pounds. While the wings can handle the weight even up to 12 pounds, the lighter it is the more fun it is to fly!
I admit I took the extreme, but it was well worth it. Changing the gear and stock wheels alone saved 7 oz!
DP
01-26-2005, 05:01 PM
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RE: engine for ultra stick lite 120
My conversion makes no more power, just lighter..
18-8 APC, Abell "muffler" 7800rpm...38 degrees, raining, altitude 6800 feet..Pretty close to 8000, but no cigar.
.Don't have an 18-10, I suspect it will not work very well, the torque peak of a G26 is at 9000, hp peak is 12,000.......
18-8 APC, Abell "muffler" 7800rpm...38 degrees, raining, altitude 6800 feet..Pretty close to 8000, but no cigar.
.Don't have an 18-10, I suspect it will not work very well, the torque peak of a G26 is at 9000, hp peak is 12,000.......
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RE: engine for ultra stick lite 120
BTW Ralph,
I saw one of your converted motors last week at the field in Morgan Hill. Can't remember the guy's name but he was flying a Pacific Aeromodels GeeBee Y. Looked and sounded great.
I almost bought one of your motors for my USL, I just decided that I wanted to try a reed valve motor. Found a used one at a little cheaper than your converted motor. Personally, I would have never paid full price for the motor. You could buy a nice 50cc for what they go for new. Someday, I'll find the right model and give you a call. I do think that the G26 has the best bang for the buck.
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I saw one of your converted motors last week at the field in Morgan Hill. Can't remember the guy's name but he was flying a Pacific Aeromodels GeeBee Y. Looked and sounded great.
I almost bought one of your motors for my USL, I just decided that I wanted to try a reed valve motor. Found a used one at a little cheaper than your converted motor. Personally, I would have never paid full price for the motor. You could buy a nice 50cc for what they go for new. Someday, I'll find the right model and give you a call. I do think that the G26 has the best bang for the buck.
Chris
01-27-2005, 11:06 AM
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RE: engine for ultra stick lite 120
G-26 is a great engine for this plane. I'm now using a 17/8 prop on the eng. Seems to be the best prop so far.
Pleanty of power goes vertical forever. Can slow down to a hover with no problems.
Pleanty of power goes vertical forever. Can slow down to a hover with no problems.
03-08-2005, 01:39 AM
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RE: engine for ultra stick lite 120
I just finished mounting a G-26 to my US 120 lite. I chopped 3.5 inches off the nose and installed a new firewall. It balances right at the aft part of the spar with the RX batt near the CG
and all servos in the stock location.
I will not get to fly it for a week or two, but I would expect performance to be pretty good considering the light weight of the airframe.
BTW, I had one of the original US 120 a few years back and it was a lead sled. Engine flameouts were a scary affair. It was like trying to land the space shuttle. After hudreds of flights, It met its demise when the elevator pushrod failed. R.I.Pieces.
and all servos in the stock location.
I will not get to fly it for a week or two, but I would expect performance to be pretty good considering the light weight of the airframe.
BTW, I had one of the original US 120 a few years back and it was a lead sled. Engine flameouts were a scary affair. It was like trying to land the space shuttle. After hudreds of flights, It met its demise when the elevator pushrod failed. R.I.Pieces.
03-08-2005, 11:12 AM
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RE: engine for ultra stick lite 120
G-26 is a good eng. for this plane. I'm using a 17-8 APC prop seems to be a good match.
The only thing I've done to mine so far is to split the elevator and use two servos, one for each side. You can use the push-rod for the rudder for the other side of the elevator. I then installed a pull-pull cable for the rudder. I fly a lot of Giant Scale and I just like to have back up on the elevator , the push-rods seemed a little weak also.
Good flying plane and the G-26 works great.
The only thing I've done to mine so far is to split the elevator and use two servos, one for each side. You can use the push-rod for the rudder for the other side of the elevator. I then installed a pull-pull cable for the rudder. I fly a lot of Giant Scale and I just like to have back up on the elevator , the push-rods seemed a little weak also.
Good flying plane and the G-26 works great.
03-08-2005, 11:22 PM
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RE: engine for ultra stick lite 120
I've got an old Ultra Stick 120 (not the lite version) with a Brison 108 CC on it.
Seems to have adequate power.
Flys great!!
Has smoke out the wingtips.
TJ
Seems to have adequate power.
Flys great!!
Has smoke out the wingtips.
TJ
03-09-2005, 09:18 PM
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RE: engine for ultra stick lite 120
A homemade 2 into 1 aluminum canister muffler going into a fitting over the wing which Ys into 2 3/4 inch aluminum tubes running out through the lightning holes in the ribs forward of the spar. A pressure tank system using check valves off the crankcase port and a varsane shutoff valve with a servo actuating it. Lotsa' work, but neat to watch in the air. Needless to say, the Brison 108 really pulls the ultra stick around. I run a 28-10 Mejlik cut down to 26-10. Left stick forward, and - - - Hang on!!!
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03-11-2005, 08:37 AM
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RE: engine for ultra stick lite 120
[8D] Just purchased a NIB G 26. The instructions tell you to grind, cut wrangle off the stock metal arm on the carb throttle, to mount the plastic ( steering arm). I don't like this idea. Is there another way without making these mods to a new engine Thanks, TeePee
03-11-2005, 05:48 PM
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RE: engine for ultra stick lite 120
I didn't cut it off my carb. What I did was mount the plastic arm to the opposite side of the carb. where the
shaft comes out on the bottom side.
shaft comes out on the bottom side.
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RE: engine for ultra stick lite 120
Hi
I am running a converted engine from www.gcbmrc.com , it flies it well, not unlimited vertical but for $210.00 it does a good job. I am on my third ultra stick, fun plane to fly...
Bill
I am running a converted engine from www.gcbmrc.com , it flies it well, not unlimited vertical but for $210.00 it does a good job. I am on my third ultra stick, fun plane to fly...
Bill
