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I'm having an issue with my engine and need some advice from some of you experienced gas guys.
I can dance all over a glow engine, but am kind of new to gas stuff.
My ignition is firing but the engine won't pop. Maybe the ignition isn't firing at 100% or something, but the engine won't pop
with the choke on.
My real question is, if you flip the prop with the choke on for awhile with no start or pop, should the plugs be wet?
Mine aren't. I did wet the plugs manually and tried it, but still no pop. Put a little gas in the cylinder and tried that with no luck.
Is there a tutorial or website that shows how our gas engines work. I mean like showing reed vavles and things like that?
Thanks and have a good weekend_bob
I can dance all over a glow engine, but am kind of new to gas stuff.
My ignition is firing but the engine won't pop. Maybe the ignition isn't firing at 100% or something, but the engine won't pop
with the choke on.
My real question is, if you flip the prop with the choke on for awhile with no start or pop, should the plugs be wet?
Mine aren't. I did wet the plugs manually and tried it, but still no pop. Put a little gas in the cylinder and tried that with no luck.
Is there a tutorial or website that shows how our gas engines work. I mean like showing reed vavles and things like that?
Thanks and have a good weekend_bob
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RE: Should the plugs be wet when...
Make sure you have a spark, if the plug is not lightly damp or you can smell gas then it may not be primed enough. I usually had flip with the ignition off until the gas is leaking out of the carb. (twin) Then it fires on the first flip with the ignition on, no choke.
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RE: Should the plugs be wet when...
It's a Tillotson carb on a 100. What can I do first to start tracking down the problem?
Basically, it flew fine the last time out. This time it won't even fire.
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Basically, it flew fine the last time out. This time it won't even fire.
Thanks_bob
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RE: Should the plugs be wet when...
Check that you have gas in the fuel line close to the carburetor. A common problem with ZDZ is that they do not choke very well when the carburetor is dry.
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If it was fine last time and now it won't draw gas, it isn't the needle settings.
Work from the tank and go forward. I would replace the fuel lines and felt clunk. Then remove the carb and clean the screen. You can also put a diaphragm kit in the carb while you have it apart.
Work from the tank and go forward. I would replace the fuel lines and felt clunk. Then remove the carb and clean the screen. You can also put a diaphragm kit in the carb while you have it apart.
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RE: Should the plugs be wet when...
Thanks Osilfa. The engine is two years old.
It has always flown with a setting of right around 1 on the hi side, and about 1.25 on the low side. They are indeed set at that.
I just took the carb apart again and it's clean on the inside. The needle "pops off" at around 14 which is what I expected.
I'm going to put it all back together.
If I pull the plugs, choke it and flip, I should see fuel running out of the carb right?
Would that be a good starting point?
If fuel does drip from the carb, and I put the plugs back in and flip it some more with the choke on, the engine shoud pop, or the plups
should be wet, right?
It has always flown with a setting of right around 1 on the hi side, and about 1.25 on the low side. They are indeed set at that.
I just took the carb apart again and it's clean on the inside. The needle "pops off" at around 14 which is what I expected.
I'm going to put it all back together.
If I pull the plugs, choke it and flip, I should see fuel running out of the carb right?
Would that be a good starting point?
If fuel does drip from the carb, and I put the plugs back in and flip it some more with the choke on, the engine shoud pop, or the plups
should be wet, right?
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RE: Should the plugs be wet when...
Yes you are correct.I tell you this because i haved the same problems 3 years ago with 3w42.it can be a little particle in the low neddle that close the system.
I do everythinks trying to find the difficult at the end was so simple and i can't fly all the weekend by this.
I do everythinks trying to find the difficult at the end was so simple and i can't fly all the weekend by this.
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RE: Should the plugs be wet when...
Yes you can blow air anywhere>
I assume that because when i opened the low needle the engine pop, and fuel drop from the carburator then start ,later when i recheck the adjustment the for the best transition the neddle will be at the same possition.
I assume that because when i opened the low needle the engine pop, and fuel drop from the carburator then start ,later when i recheck the adjustment the for the best transition the neddle will be at the same possition.
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RE: Should the plugs be wet when...
Your carburator fuel pump diaphragm is rubber or fiber??SOme carburator came with fiber diafram that is very good but when is very dry don't pump,just moisture with gas the diaphram and install it.
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In post #15, the item you have listed as a "diaphram" is very thin plastic in my carb.
The carb is a Tilottson HS 232E if I recall.
What are you thinking?
The carb is a Tilottson HS 232E if I recall.
What are you thinking?
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RE: Should the plugs be wet when...
It's the same of the post 17 just different model of carburator one rubber and the other is fiber(like plastic).
If your diaphfrgm(fuel pump membrane) is very dry the pump don't work that is i tell you that just moisture with gas the membrane and install it and then it works perfectly.That thinks just happen with the fiber membrane.
If your diaphfrgm(fuel pump membrane) is very dry the pump don't work that is i tell you that just moisture with gas the membrane and install it and then it works perfectly.That thinks just happen with the fiber membrane.
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RE: Should the plugs be wet when...
Hopefully I can get it back together tonight and try it.
I'll let you know.
By the way, what is the function of the reeds, and how do they relate to any of this?
Any diagrams or tutorials on the engines that would help me understand/visualize what's going on in there?
Take care_bob
I'll let you know.
By the way, what is the function of the reeds, and how do they relate to any of this?
Any diagrams or tutorials on the engines that would help me understand/visualize what's going on in there?
Take care_bob
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RE: Should the plugs be wet when...
Thanks.
I do have that link. That's where I learned about pop off pressures.
I didn't see anything on the internal workings, or the reed valves.
Is there a particular page you are referring to?
Take care_bob
I do have that link. That's where I learned about pop off pressures.
I didn't see anything on the internal workings, or the reed valves.
Is there a particular page you are referring to?
Take care_bob
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RE: Should the plugs be wet when...
Bob, I only can offer you the service manual of the tillotson HS,if you are interesting please send me a pm with your e-mail
the service manual give a good explanation of the operation data.
the service manual give a good explanation of the operation data.