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Wish i would have known. I just ordered another Super dri gallon from Tower. thanks for the info and pic. I did not order the engine yet. I contacted flyboys with the new Ag duster Cessna with the 98 inch wingspan. They said this engine should work. they have one flying with a Satio 180 now. But like others have said, i am finding it hard to swallow the price tag on this engine when i can get a 2- stroke cheap with more power. but my major issue is that sweet realistic sound. You have calmed my fears about the smoke system.
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Like when you look at your watch 3-5 minutes would equate to 1/16 to 1/8 of a turn or just a little tweek.
Steve
Like when you look at your watch 3-5 minutes would equate to 1/16 to 1/8 of a turn or just a little tweek.
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Wish i would have known. I just ordered another Super dri gallon from Tower. thanks for the info and pic. I did not order the engine yet. I contacted flyboys with the new Ag duster Cessna with the 98 inch wingspan. They said this engine should work. they have one flying with a Satio 180 now. But like others have said, i am finding it hard to swallow the price tag on this engine when i can get a 2- stroke cheap with more power. but my major issue is that sweet realistic sound. You have calmed my fears about the smoke system.
Wish i would have known. I just ordered another Super dri gallon from Tower. thanks for the info and pic. I did not order the engine yet. I contacted flyboys with the new Ag duster Cessna with the 98 inch wingspan. They said this engine should work. they have one flying with a Satio 180 now. But like others have said, i am finding it hard to swallow the price tag on this engine when i can get a 2- stroke cheap with more power. but my major issue is that sweet realistic sound. You have calmed my fears about the smoke system.
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Hi Guys, I've got a midwest cap232 running with a saito 300twin.Thinking of putting this engine in instead.Can i expect good aerobtic performance or maybe 3d with this setup or would a spe43 be better? What is the weight I should be gunning for?
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engine starts at high idle, after 15 seconds it begins to wind down and will not respond to throttle, finally stops .sometimes this repeats itself twice. then starts ok. after first start of the day it starts normally.any thoughts? Does any one have a good needle tweeking procedure that they know works on this engine?
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YS is testing a spark ignition for their 1.70. It still uses glow fuel (with nitro).
I wonder what the Saito 2.20 would do with an alcy carb and methanol?
The YS gets better fuel economy, no kickback, etc.
I like the benefits of ignition, and I like the cooler running, lack of fumes, and the smell of glow.
I wonder what the Saito 2.20 would do with an alcy carb and methanol?
The YS gets better fuel economy, no kickback, etc.
I like the benefits of ignition, and I like the cooler running, lack of fumes, and the smell of glow.
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YS is testing a spark ignition for their 1.70. It still uses glow fuel (with nitro).
I wonder what the Saito 2.20 would do with an alcy carb and methanol?
The YS gets better fuel economy, no kickback, etc.
I like the benefits of ignition, and I like the cooler running, lack of fumes, and the smell of glow.
YS is testing a spark ignition for their 1.70. It still uses glow fuel (with nitro).
I wonder what the Saito 2.20 would do with an alcy carb and methanol?
The YS gets better fuel economy, no kickback, etc.
I like the benefits of ignition, and I like the cooler running, lack of fumes, and the smell of glow.
I used my own ignition design but CH Ignitions, Inc. can provide you with an electronically timed ignition with a plug cap for the 1/4-32 spark plugs.
You will find that the ease of starting and overall tractability of the engine to be improved immensely. After priming and pulling the prop through several revolutions I could turn the ignition on and start it first flip by reaching over from behind the wing using my left hand to flip the prop.
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So how did the Saito gasser fly the H9 P-51 ? Thinking about that same combo even though I see the firewalll mods are a bit involved.
Tim
So how did the Saito gasser fly the H9 P-51 ? Thinking about that same combo even though I see the firewalll mods are a bit involved.
Tim
firewall mods not as big a deal as it looks, just used the templates posted on the horizon hobby site and make sure use the engine mount that came with the engine NOT the one that came with the plane
where does one get one of these straight pipes?
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engine was getting harder and harder to start. was not sucking fuel properly. ran fuel line from carb input to gas can. flipping prop will not suck up fuel. using a starter it takes 2 15 sec. bursts to get fuel near carb. if i leave starter on long enough it will eventually start. if i stick by thumb into carb opening it will suck up fuel properly. was so frustrated i bought a new carb.......same results. any ideas ?
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2 things affect fuel draw, and they're the things that affect compression too.
First, check that your valves are adjusted in spec. If that fails, examine the piston/cylinder for scratches or wear.
I suspect you'll find one of the valves is below the specified clearance. This must be checked and adjusted at fairly regular intervals. Once the engine is well run in, once a year may suffice, but not if it's newish.
If the above is good, check all bolts that may result in air leaks.
J
First, check that your valves are adjusted in spec. If that fails, examine the piston/cylinder for scratches or wear.
I suspect you'll find one of the valves is below the specified clearance. This must be checked and adjusted at fairly regular intervals. Once the engine is well run in, once a year may suffice, but not if it's newish.
If the above is good, check all bolts that may result in air leaks.
J
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engine was getting harder and harder to start. was not sucking fuel properly. ran fuel line from carb input to gas can. flipping prop will not suck up fuel. using a starter it takes 2 15 sec. bursts to get fuel near carb. if i leave starter on long enough it will eventually start. if i stick by thumb into carb opening it will suck up fuel properly. was so frustrated i bought a new carb.......same results. any ideas ?
engine was getting harder and harder to start. was not sucking fuel properly. ran fuel line from carb input to gas can. flipping prop will not suck up fuel. using a starter it takes 2 15 sec. bursts to get fuel near carb. if i leave starter on long enough it will eventually start. if i stick by thumb into carb opening it will suck up fuel properly. was so frustrated i bought a new carb.......same results. any ideas ?
I can not reach the carb opening if the cowl is on. What I do now it to spray the cowl full of starting pilot and then start the motor. The starting pilot let the motor run long enough to suck fuel on its own.
Please let me know if you find a better solution.
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glad to see replies to my problem. 20 sec. is an eternity for my starter. my engine would require a couple of tries at 10 sec. i have talked to saito support and they have not heard of this problem (hmmmm ! ) as i said i bought new carb ,hoping to avoid 3-4 week turn around, but now i am going to send it back. tried resetting tappets. the were off (too much gap ) but did not help. hope more people tell us what they are seeing.
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I have installed a primer tube made of 1/8 brass to my engines on my DC3.I shaped it to go up and over the engine mount and then it points down into the carb.Works great.I use a manual pump like DuBros to slowly fill the carb.The tube is just gooped to the firewall.You can see it in the pic..(pics aren't great quality but you get the idea)
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I have close to an hour of ground testing on my DC-3 and things are looking and sounding good.My idles are around 1900 to 2000 and my top end is 7000 rpm using 18x10 Biela 2 blade props.I had one engine with a stuck exhaust valve on the first runs so I did what Wswanepol did with the injector cleaner and it seems to have solved that issue.
One thing though I notice one engine has less compression than the other before a cold start.Could that be a valve clearance issue?Both engines start well ,they spool up in sync and have identical top ends,plus the sound and the pull is AWESOME!
Flight tests soon..(has 3 flights with Fugi32's already)
One thing though I notice one engine has less compression than the other before a cold start.Could that be a valve clearance issue?Both engines start well ,they spool up in sync and have identical top ends,plus the sound and the pull is AWESOME!
Flight tests soon..(has 3 flights with Fugi32's already)
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where do i get one these from for my FG36?
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Straight pipe with a flared megaphone tip. Or a very short straight pipe.
Straight pipe with a flared megaphone tip. Or a very short straight pipe.
Or find a flex pipe here or from Macs.
http://searchrc.horizonhobby.com/ind...ank%7c1&vno=72
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I have close to an hour of ground testing on my DC-3 and things are looking and sounding good.My idles are around 1900 to 2000 and my top end is 7000 rpm using 18x10 Biela 2 blade props.I had one engine with a stuck exhaust valve on the first runs so I did what Wswanepol did with the injector cleaner and it seems to have solved that issue.
One thing though I notice one engine has less compression than the other before a cold start.Could that be a valve clearance issue?Both engines start well ,they spool up in sync and have identical top ends,plus the sound and the pull is AWESOME!
Flight tests soon..(has 3 flights with Fugi32's already)
I have close to an hour of ground testing on my DC-3 and things are looking and sounding good.My idles are around 1900 to 2000 and my top end is 7000 rpm using 18x10 Biela 2 blade props.I had one engine with a stuck exhaust valve on the first runs so I did what Wswanepol did with the injector cleaner and it seems to have solved that issue.
One thing though I notice one engine has less compression than the other before a cold start.Could that be a valve clearance issue?Both engines start well ,they spool up in sync and have identical top ends,plus the sound and the pull is AWESOME!
Flight tests soon..(has 3 flights with Fugi32's already)
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Hi all. I have this engine, not yet installed on the plane or run. Just wondering if the sticky valve problem has been fixed or figured out, or any word from Horizon/Saito. Also what oil is everyone using and have had good luck with this engine? The manual is kind of vague on oil, just percentage, etc.
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Thats one awesome DC3!! Is it skinned in aluminium or plastic film? Bet it sounds fabulous with the 2 fg36s. Hope you have the video up soon.
ORIGINAL: SteveD-RCU
I have close to an hour of ground testing on my DC-3 and things are looking and sounding good.My idles are around 1900 to 2000 and my top end is 7000 rpm using 18x10 Biela 2 blade props.I had one engine with a stuck exhaust valve on the first runs so I did what Wswanepol did with the injector cleaner and it seems to have solved that issue.
One thing though I notice one engine has less compression than the other before a cold start.Could that be a valve clearance issue?Both engines start well ,they spool up in sync and have identical top ends,plus the sound and the pull is AWESOME!
Flight tests soon..(has 3 flights with Fugi32's already)
I have close to an hour of ground testing on my DC-3 and things are looking and sounding good.My idles are around 1900 to 2000 and my top end is 7000 rpm using 18x10 Biela 2 blade props.I had one engine with a stuck exhaust valve on the first runs so I did what Wswanepol did with the injector cleaner and it seems to have solved that issue.
One thing though I notice one engine has less compression than the other before a cold start.Could that be a valve clearance issue?Both engines start well ,they spool up in sync and have identical top ends,plus the sound and the pull is AWESOME!
Flight tests soon..(has 3 flights with Fugi32's already)
Will attempt to get some video also
Steve.
BigskyRCFlyer ,I'm using Lucas semisynthetic oil..