OldRookie

My Feedback: (13)

Go to this web page. It is a picture of the container that is sold by The Oil Store. This is what you will get a case of when you ordered what you linked to.

http://oilstore.stores.yahoo.net/penaircool2c.html

The paragraph at the bottom pretty much clears everything up.

"Previous users: Pennzoil has changed the labeling of this product. Bottles are labeled Outdoor for Small Engines, Multi-purpose Air-Cooled."

Greg

JoeAirPort

My Feedback: (41)

The key words are "Air-cooled".

Speedy-Gonzales

My Feedback: (202)

Getting ready to put together a Great Planes 50cc Giant "Reactor" with a DL-50 for power. Has any one ran the new DL-55? How does it compare to the DL-50? Any significant difference in power or mechanical upgrades from the DL-50? Same ignition and carb? I am going to use the Slimline Pitts muffler but have heard there is about a 300 rpm drop using this muffler over the stock muffler. Shouldn't really hurt this model's performance much. I am also going to try one of the newly advertised PPPro 204 in. oz. Digital servos on the rudder. These servos are advertised right here on RCU for $28.95! The rest of the servos will be Hitec HS-5645's. I just wanted to give one of these new PPPro servos a try. The written reviews look very good for this servo.

ChopperMike

Yes, air cooled is key. I found some gallon jugs of Multi Purpose Pennzoil at my local Walmart but eventually learned it was not air cooled. I called Pennzoil and learned several things. They no longer sell Air Cooled in gallon jugs and according to the guy on the phone, the air cooled oil in the 3.2 ounce bottles is not the same as the air cooled oil in the 8 ounce bottles. Don't know what the difference is but that's what he said. He initially asked me if I had a Rotax engine and told me that they only recommend the 8 ounce bottles of air cooled for them. He also said that they are coming out with an oil blend for Rotax.




Mike

T3beatz

My Feedback: (4)

From what I've seen there is a little more power coming out of the DL-55, but for the GP Reactor the the DL-50 should be fine also (did you buy it used or new?) If you bought it new there is no reason you shouldn't go with the 55 they cost pretty much the same.
Also take a look at the power HD-DS120M servos from TBM http://www.troybuiltmodels.com/items/HD-DS120MHV.html or the Power HD 9150's from Hobby City http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s.../15.8kg/.17sec TBM carried them but Hobby city was selling them for so cheap so they dropped them when the DS120's came out.

Ohh, and Tom over at Wildhare RC Carries the power HD line also.

T.J.

DaddySam

My Feedback: (9)

I'll be getting my first DLE 55 pretty soon, but fortunately I already have a decent quantity of the Penz for air cooled engines. If you fly a lot that case from the OilStore.com is the way to go. If you want to get less than that, Aircraft Spruce and Specialty has the 16 oz bottles.
Sam

McChiken

A friend told me to stay away from the 5645's cause they get sloppy . He said get the hs-5625's . The spec's are real close . Has anyone else heard this ??

I have the 5625 on my throttle in the gasser and one in my little Edge540 on the rudder .

JNorton

My Feedback: (2)

Same servo - same gear material just different ratios so the 5625 is faster. I'm puzzled why your friend sees a difference in wear.
John

Speedy-Gonzales

My Feedback: (202)

I think they are all the same servo! I have been using the same Hitec HS-5645's for two years now. No slop. I bought the DL-50 brand new fron Bob at DLUSA. It has never been run but I always put them on a test stand for some run-in time first and a chance to make friends with my new engine before putting it in the plane. I agree with JNorton on the 5645's. Exact same guts as the 5625 just different gear ratios. Good model "hygiene" will resolve a lot of slop issues that may not be related to your servos. Linkages and vibration woes need constant attention on any gasser!

paul5992

The 5645 is a good servo. If you go to tower hobbies web sight you can buy gears for next to nothing.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVE87

If you have to replace gears every few years and can't afford the gear sets you should have bought a smaller plane.

Speedy-Gonzales

My Feedback: (202)

AMEN Brother!!!!!! There are so many choices for servos. The only negative comment I can make is stay away from anything with the word KARBONITE attached to it. I speak from personal experience. Metal gears do tend to wear but only after a lot of flying. More hours than the average sunday flier will accumulate before signifcant wear is noticed.

paul5992

KARBONITE gears are a little more brittle. I run JR 821's in my small planes, and 5985's 5955's and 7955's in my bigger stuff. I love Hitec.

hoonnz

Can I get some opinions on canister mufflers versus the supplied dustbins versus wrap-around?
The local DL dealer here in New Zealand is advertising a nice canister set up. I would like to quieten my plane, but like us all I want MORE POWER!!! or at least not less. I've had a quick scan through the Gas Engines forum and can't find much info, so if you have any experience in this area I'd appreciate your advice.

arobatx

If it is the header/cannister often associated with many of the 50cc-62cc chinese made engines, and sold by many distributors now selling the chinese engines, I hear they drop RPM a couple hundred, but significantly quiet the operation. Most who have them feel the price, and sound makes the rpm loss worth it. You'll spend more money on a header/cannister/pipe from K&S, MTW, Greves, etc...but generally the power improves, and sometimes greatly

1carhauler

Hi all, newbie on gas and was looking ( hope for ) for some info and verification on what I have read in the past 208 pages. Just starting with gas, with a birthday present of a PAU Edge 30% .Have all Hitec 645mg servos , picked up a used ( NIB ) DL 50 ( 12 2008 on ignition ) engine and looking to go with a 4.8 volt 1650 mah on the ignition and looking to order 2- 6 volt 2500 mah to go on the receiver, with a seperate switch on each battery. Also looking to pick up a battery-share device and opto -gas-kill from 42% . Starting with xoar 22-8 props and spinner and pennzoil at 32-1 for oil Wondering if this is overkill or not?? Also will I have to unhook the batteries in order to charge or can they be charged thru the ports on the switches ( heavy duty Cermark switch ) Thanks Jim

mstam1971

My Feedback: (2)

For you 'battery share device' you can use a Fromeco Wolverine switch so no need for 2 separate mechanical switches. The switch includes 2 charge receptacles. The 645's are too weak for 30%, you want at least 180oz servos for 3D, for the rest everything looks OK.

For 30% personally I prefer a single switch like the UltraSwitch II http://electrodynam.com/rc/ultraswit...html#USWReview and a decent battery. I've never had a single glitch while I have seen many planes go down with their 'redundant' setups.

Ultra Switch II HD-R2 $29.95

rcflyrc3

If I were to install a KS canister on my DL50, would there be any performance difference between a front or a rear dump?

1carhauler

Thanks for the reply. Will make some changes and check out some different servos ond connections for the battery hook up. thanks again Jim

McChiken

That the same switch as Cermark has ? I use that Cermark in 4 planes and it works great .

paul5992

The 645's on a 30% plane will work if you don't set it up for 3D throws. The set up would have a 1" arm on the servo and a long arm on the control surface. For 3D I would recommend 5645's minimum.

rcmaster12

Hi I was wondering if the DLE-55 has the same bolt pattern for mounting as the DA-50R.

Tired Old Man

My Feedback: (1)

It does.

Regarding the cannister question. Much will depend on the length of the pipe, though cannisters generally do not increase output. A wrap around muffler works about the same way. You might want to consider spending the extra money and obtaining a 3w 3WCM-M50 or 3WCM-M55 for a 50cc engine. At Aircraft International. Avoid Cactus Aviation. Works a lot better than the eastern line of cans. Higher performance combined with reliability and long life comes at a price. Going for the cheap stuff will leave you hangin' long before the good stuff even thinks about wearing out.

SOLO_48

My Feedback: (8)

DOES ANY ONE HAS EVER BOUGHT ANY 50 CCAIRPLANES FRON NITRO AIRPLANESMJUST WONDERING ABOUT QUALITY,AND IF WORTH IT BUYING.

THANS

skip1320

Turn the cap lock off,Yes i had the 50cc ultimate very well built,and flew good 17lbs auw w/rcgf 50 same as DL,most of the other 50cc planes are of same but not sure,good luck.

Bosco2

My Feedback: (42)

I purchase an 50cc Edge from peak models and it is a good flying plane and well built I would do it again if I was in the market fpr another plane,