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Old 03-05-2009, 11:31 PM
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Default WOW!! New DL 111cc and 55cc !

Just saw that these things we're released now over on TBM and valley view. >>> http://www.valleyviewrc.com/Gas%20Engines.htm Coming from DL....you know they are gonna be good! I also noticed they are "lighter" than the previous 100cc and 55cc.
Old 03-06-2009, 09:13 AM
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Default RE: WOW!! New DL 111cc and 55cc !

I wonder what all the DL 50 and DL 100 people are going to do for parts in the future? Did they just change the jug?
Old 03-06-2009, 09:41 AM
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Default RE: WOW!! New DL 111cc and 55cc !

I talk with Tom at Valley View and he will still service the 50's and the 100's, I think I might buy another(last of the mohekens)DL50's for future use.
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Old 03-06-2009, 11:24 PM
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I wonder what all the DL 50 and DL 100 people are going to do for parts in the future? Did they just change the jug?
This is what I was thinking at first. Apparently the crankcase has changed somehow as well. Maybe to give more clearance on the inside for the larger piston??
Old 03-07-2009, 09:26 AM
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Default RE: WOW!! New DL 111cc and 55cc !

Time to buy up parts before they are gone. Just read in another thread that the parts are dried up for the old ZDZ 80. Won't be buying a used one of them anytime soon.

Them DL's look nice. Heard they are doing a 222 also. Any new info on that one?
Old 03-07-2009, 12:30 PM
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Default RE: WOW!! New DL 111cc and 55cc !

Gents, I see you are sold on the DL Engines.. Please comment pros and cons against the DA engines? I like the fact i can have more Airplanes and engines with Cheaper price But i like performance as well for 50 Gassers on 3D and Warbirds.. I"m in the middle of No where so i don't get much feedback other than these Forums. My buddies back in south Texas use DA religiously and don't like to change..
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Default RE: WOW!! New DL 111cc and 55cc !

I just ordered mine hopefully be here next thursday or friday. Does anyone already have on? Also have a DL 100 tom said the only change was the jugs punched out a little more for the 111 so that means if you have the 100 that needs parts you later on your ok.
Old 03-08-2009, 07:34 AM
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Gents, I see you are sold on the DL Engines.. Please comment pros and cons against the DA engines? I like the fact i can have more Airplanes and engines with Cheaper price But i like performance as well for 50 Gassers on 3D and Warbirds.. I"m in the middle of No where so i don't get much feedback other than these Forums. My buddies back in south Texas use DA religiously and don't like to change..
Mate - do a few searches here in the Gas engine section and giant scale. This DA / DL pros and cons thing has been flogged to death. It normally results in the thread being closed because emotions run hot and boil over. Lets try to keep this one open for constructive feedback.
Old 03-08-2009, 02:26 PM
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Default RE: WOW!! New DL 111cc and 55cc !

I too am waiting to pull the trigger on a 100cc classed engine. The anticipation of some real world testimony on the 111 is killing me!

Post up guys!! LOL


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Old 03-08-2009, 04:08 PM
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Default RE: WOW!! New DL 111cc and 55cc !

i wounder will tom have that in a combo i would like to try that dle111 seems to be another winner but wow the price is moving up still way cheap but i will hold my wallet on the 222 and a 150 that will be out soon
Old 03-09-2009, 12:23 PM
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Default RE: WOW!! New DL 111cc and 55cc !

I wonder what all the DL 50 and DL 100 people are going to do for parts in the future?
From what I heard parts won't be a problem as they will continue to support the 50 and 100.


Time to buy up parts before they are gone

Unless people panic and go out and buy up all the parts.


This DA / DL pros and cons thing has been flogged to death.
No it hasn't. It's been flogged to death, spit on, thrown on the campfire, kicked about and then flogged some more!


Seriously though, a search will turn up more info on the 2 engines than you care to read. Pop a HUGE bowl of popcorn and get a few cases of your favorite beverage and have at it!



Mike


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Default RE: WOW!! New DL 111cc and 55cc !

What is it- DL or DLE? The new ads are here at RCU are DLE.
Old 03-09-2009, 04:11 PM
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Default RE: WOW!! New DL 111cc and 55cc !

DL has them on TBM

http://www.troybuiltmodels.com/ns/ac...es/engines/dl/
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ORIGINAL: mrbigg

What is it- DL or DLE? The new ads are here at RCU are DLE.
DLE is DL Engines.
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ORIGINAL: mrbigg

What is it- DL or DLE? The new ads are here at RCU are DLE.
DL and DLE are the same thing. DLE is the new way they represent their name, DL Engines.
Old 03-10-2009, 09:44 AM
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Default RE: WOW!! New DL 111cc and 55cc !

Wont be able to fly this weekend on account of the weather(cyclone) here, but will do a few heat cycles and tune the needles.
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Old 03-10-2009, 08:43 PM
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Looking good dude. I notice that they come with the new hub too.
Where is your floats?, or are you going to hand launch?.
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Default RE: WOW!! New DL 111cc and 55cc !

OK guys I am missing something. I have a DL50. If you look at the specs of the 50 and 55 the only thing that has changed is they raised the compression. I have read people saying they changed the bore or stroke but the specs just dont show it. I am sure it will be another winner but i am just trying to figure out where they are getting the extre displacement.


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Old 03-11-2009, 01:19 AM
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Default RE: WOW!! New DL 111cc and 55cc !

I guess they could change the crankshaft journal size to get a larger displacement, but an increase in compression would suggest a milled head,or a thinner head gasket, maybe a dome piston.

If it's as good as the 50, it will be a winner for sure.[8D]
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Looking good dude. I notice that they come with the new hub too.
Where is your floats?, or are you going to hand launch?.

They come with some little standoffs as well, but not the ones in the photo.

I have a launch stand, vertical take off and landings.

OK guys I am missing something. I have a DL50. If you look at the specs of the 50 and 55 the only thing that has changed is they raised the compression. I have read people saying they changed the bore or stroke but the specs just dont show it. I am sure it will be another winner but i am just trying to figure out where they are getting the extre displacement.
The bore is increased by 2mm.
Old 03-11-2009, 05:38 AM
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ORIGINAL: Checklst

I guess they could change the crankshaft journal size to get a larger displacement, but an increase in compression would suggest a milled head,or a thinner head gasket, maybe a dome piston.

If it's as good as the 50, it will be a winner for sure.[8D]
The new 55 and 111 have different head/piston/crankcase and cylinder gasket

The bore is 2mm bigger, stroke is the same. And compression is up from 7.5 to 7.6. Does have a dome head piston, but so does the 50/100

Rest of engine is the same as the 50 & 100

The skirt at the bottom of the cylinder is 2mm larger in diameter, and the crankcases have been bored out a short depth where its meet the head to accomodate the new head/skirt.

Crank, Reeds, Carby, new prop hub etc are all interchangeable with the 50 & 100

The new head is missing the bottom cooling fin, except for a short stub under the exhaust outlet. But the rest of the fins are now square from top to bottom, and no longer taper/reduce in size from top to bottom if you look at side on.

I pulled a new 55 and 111 apart to verify.

Cheers

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Default RE: WOW!! New DL 111cc and 55cc !

Thanks for clearing that up. Now I just gotta work a little overtime so I can get the new 55.



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Default RE: WOW!! New DL 111cc and 55cc !

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ORIGINAL: Checklst

I guess they could change the crankshaft journal size to get a larger displacement, but an increase in compression would suggest a milled head,or a thinner head gasket, maybe a dome piston.

If it's as good as the 50, it will be a winner for sure.[8D]
The new 55 and 111 have different head/piston/crankcase and cylinder gasket

The bore is 2mm bigger, stroke is the same. And compression is up from 7.5 to 7.6. Does have a dome head piston, but so does the 50/100

Rest of engine is the same as the 50 & 100

The skirt at the bottom of the cylinder is 2mm larger in diameter, and the crankcases have been bored out a short depth where its meet the head to accomodate the new head/skirt.

Crank, Reeds, Carby, new prop hub etc are all interchangeable with the 50 & 100

The new head is missing the bottom cooling fin, except for a short stub under the exhaust outlet. But the rest of the fins are now square from top to bottom, and no longer taper/reduce in size from top to bottom if you look at side on.

I pulled a new 55 and 111 apart to verify.

Cheers

Scott
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More at www.dlenginesaustralia.com/gallery

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Default RE: WOW!! New DL 111cc and 55cc !

Great stuff Scott, thanks!!
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Hi Scott,

can you tell us if DLE are going to produce a 150-170?

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