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Old 06-25-2009, 07:23 PM
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I need a 26cc engine for my 73" QQ Yak, HELP !!!!!!! Looking a Zenoah and Evolution

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Default RE: Best 26cc Engine

Check this out.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8862472/tm.htm
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If you have seen the video of qq yak with evolution 26 equipped with canister, you can fairly say that there is a little shortage of power. With pipe evolution/mvvs should do it easily. I have MVVS(Evolution) in my 5kg Epsilon stunt with modded pipe and carb and it's swinging 16x12 8600rpm.

If you cant install pipe, I suggest that you take a look for this new syssa engine.
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Pending how you want to fly it, any decent 26 may or may not be enough. My vote would be for a 3W28, or the Syssa 30 (1.8) as Rich pointed out above.

I flew my QQ 73" Yak with a lightened and modified Zenoah 26...and it would spin a good 18x6 just above 9000rpm. The engine and 10oz tank replaced a YS 1.40 and 17-1/2 oz tank. The all up weight of the plane, with both engine configurations was identical, 11 lbs. Though I felt the 26 offered very good sport performance, and perhaps just barely enough to risk some low altitude 3d, I wouldn't recommend it for unlimited performance. I think at 10lbs or a little less, the 26 would have been perfect. Or, any good 26 on a tuned pipe. But for the weight of the additional pipe, along with the investment, I'd bump up the displacement enough to compensate instead, such as with the 3W28 or Syssa 30.

Good luck, and let us know how your project progresses!

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Default RE: Best 26cc Engine

Wow guys I agree the Syssa sounds good but how can you recommend it? It isn't even shipping to the public yet!
Just my two cents.
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Wow guys I agree the Syssa sounds good but how can you recommend it? It isn't even shipping to the public yet!
Just my two cents.
John
I wrote "Check this out." That's not a recommendation.
Old 06-26-2009, 09:22 AM
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Default RE: Best 26cc Engine

Written English is wonderful - lot's of opportunities to be taken the wrong way. But "I" meaning myself wouldn't say take a look at this if I was not recommending it, otherwise why bring someones attention to it.

Enough it doesn't matter. I was just chuckling to myself when I wrote the reply.
Later,
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....So far, the Syssa appears worth the consideration, in this class of engine. If you want fully tested, dependable, longevity...etc, get yourself a good used G26 with RCignition EI or CH EI, and with the money saved, put a Macs Tuned pipe on it....and spend your time flying and smiling. You should see around 10000rpm on this setup with good carbon 18x6 prop. Plenty of thrust for this plane and unlimited performance.

Aside from Syssa, I believe DL engines is also coming out with a 30cc class engine soon, and given DL's history thus far for providing a good performing product, and given a couple of VERY good US sales/support guys, they are making a good mark for themselves. You have plenty of options, some require a more hefty investment for quality, and some might require a bit of risk being at the forefront of consumer experience. In the end, you will have to choose what you believe is the best path for your comfort level.

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Only g26 I have heard hitting 10krpm with 18x6 prop was heavily modified and prop used were E? Scorepa? 9krpm maybe more realistic with cf prop and pipe.
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....OEM G26, Macs Tuned Pipe, Mejzlik 18x6, 10,000 rpm, old news. The electronic ignition converstion has nothing to do with it, it just lightens the AUW of the engine.

The guy who used the skorepe E series prop, made his own exhaust, definitely had modified the engine additionally, and was hitting even higher RPM's if I recall correctly. I think his username is blkbird??

9 grand is not uncommonly reached with pretty standard aftermarket in cowl exhausts for the G26, on the same prop. Around 9600 with APC 17x6 props, and standard in cowl exhausts. The pipe and mejzlik carbon prop quote is right on.
Old 06-26-2009, 12:08 PM
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I can back up the Tuned Pipe, Mejzlik 18x6, 10,000 rpm statement as plausible as I have personally had one turning 9900 to 10,000 with this setup. That's 20 lbs of thrust on an 11 lb plane. I've also seen over 10,000 on my MVVS 26 with same pipe and prop and it's also lighter.
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Written English is wonderful - lot's of opportunities to be taken the wrong way.
Best 26cc Engine is kind of ambiguous, what is best? So I pointed that thread out, the other engines I assume he's heard about, this was new to me and has some nice features that might work "best" for him.[sm=thumbup.gif]
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Best 26cc Engine is kind of ambiguous
I totally agree. I'm excited to hear about the Syssa too. I want to hear some reviews from the production version though.
John
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Oh, I just bought two FTL26cc side carb engines from HobbyKing for $300. I just got done running one of them:

7000rpm with a Turnigy 16x8 Cherry prop.
1740 idle.
This was after about 32oz of 32:1 Pennzoil Aircooled.
Good acceleration, seems very smooth, a vibe at 2700 rpm, but that my just be the harmonics of the plane it's in.

So it's not a world beater, but it is a very nice motor that is pretty cheap at $150 each, and they will be able to eventually power my Sky King Songbird.
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Old 06-27-2009, 06:17 AM
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i say play save
get mld28
been there done it
thx
Old 06-27-2009, 04:28 PM
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MVVS
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Default RE: Best 26cc Engine

I am interested in getting into gas engines and saw the ftl26 on the hobby king site. there are a lot of reviews, but i am skeptical about reading reviews about the engine on their own website.

How has the performance been on your ftl26? The price seems very reasonable and I was planning on putting it on a Extra with a wingspan of about 68 inches.

Any advice or comments would help me out a lot
Does that price include everything I need? minus the prop.

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ORIGINAL: eyekue06

I am interested in getting into gas engines and saw the ftl26 on the hobby king site. there are a lot of reviews, but i am skeptical about reading reviews about the engine on their own website.

How has the performance been on your ftl26? The price seems very reasonable and I was planning on putting it on a Extra with a wingspan of about 68 inches.

Any advice or comments would help me out a lot
Does that price include everything I need? minus the prop.

I started this thread on the FTL26cc:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8884600/tm.htm

But the quick answer is it looks good, I'll fly it in a couple days and report on that thread. Yes, it's complete, minus prop, seems well worth the money.
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Hi Rich, keep us up to date on what she turns after some more running. I am not familiar with the Turnigy props but my Zenoah G26 turns a XOAR 16X8 about 9100 and an 18X6 XOAR in the mid to high 8's. I would be curious to see if the rpm's come up some after a bit more running time.
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Default RE: Best 26cc Engine

Of the 26's out there the Evolution 26 has a good rep but has that dog of a front carb (probably OK in a YAK though). The Zenoah 26EI is a rock solid performer but very heavy by today's standards. Check your balance. STAY AWAY from the SPE. It vibrates like the devil and is fundamentally junk. The RCGF works fine once it is broken in.
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Though the 3W28 and new Syssa 30 would both outperform it, If I was again in the market for a 26cc engine, I'd pick up a good used G26, convert it to EI, trim the excess case material off and enjoy a very reliable, long lasting and light weight engine. Parts are readily available if needed down the road, and the cost of investment would be kept low, allowing for the purchase of higher performance exhausts and props. I sometimes kick myself for selling this one, but I haven't had a suitable aircraft for an engine this size for quite a while.
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I cut mine much like Chad did his. Also like he, I sold mine and regret it. They are great running engines and my all up weight was 12 oz lighter than with the stock mag. That was including a 4 cell AAA NiMH 900 mAH pack.
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hey arobatx- quick question on the g26i have a g26 ei, they say 4.8 volt pack only, do you or anybody you know use a 6volt pack? what's you're take. thanks
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I've never run the OEM G26ei. The ignition is power hungry, and requires a hefty mah battery to feed it. If I had one of those engines, I would run an A123 ignition pack, or better yet, sell it for whatever I could get out of it, and replace it with a CH unit. CH igntions or Ralph Cunningham can suppy you with a conversion as well, and their circuits draw little current by comparison. I don't see any need to run anything more than the minium voltage required to run an ignition. So if it will run on 4.8v-??? I would run it on 4.8, as it has to shed that extra voltage in the form of heat, which is unwanted in your electrical components to begin with. There's no need to shorten the life of your ignition. Just pay attention to mah draw, and appropriately size your pack for the ignition you are running.

Here's Ralph's number if you want to give him a ring: 928 635 2455

Also, user TKG here on RCU is a top notch resource regarding ignitions (CH ignitions)
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Chad and Jez I feel for you guys, as I have a G23 that Ralph performed ALL his magic on that I have decided will be a keeper for life .... mine at least

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