DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

Does anyone have real world numbers for these two engines? They are priced about the same, so I am looking to see how these engines compare.

Thank you in advance.

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

If it was my decision I would be looking harder at a third alternative. If limiting to only the two mentioned your decision will be based primarily on who you think will take better care of you.

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

MVVS80:<table width="829" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 620pt;" x:str=""> <col width="94" style="width: 70pt;" /> <col width="64" span="2" style="width: 48pt;" /> <col width="94" style="width: 70pt;" /> <col width="83" style="width: 62pt;" /> <col width="64" style="width: 48pt;" /> <col width="366" style="width: 274pt;" /> <tbody> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">24x10 xoar</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">7250</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">9.67</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">int80</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">pe-test out of box (after 300cc quiet running high idle)</td> </tr> <tr height="35" style="height: 26.4pt;"> <td height="35" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 26.4pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">24x10x3 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">7100</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">11</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">RE3</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">engine A Bolle. slowly rising rpm (MVVS clains 12hp @8000)</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">24x10x3 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6420</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">7.8</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">TD75</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">engine A Bolle</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">24x10x3 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6450</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">8.47</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">TD110</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">engine A Bolle</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">24x10x3 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6350</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">8.23</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" align="right" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">3204</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">engine A Bolle</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">24x10x3 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6460</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">8.47</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">TD75K</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">engine A Bolle</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">24x10x3 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6390</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">8.4</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">TD75KK</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">engine A Bolle, shortened K muffler Nu naar Erik</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">24x10x3 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6600</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">8.8</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">int80</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">janch</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">24x10x3 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6680</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">10.26</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">int80</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">pe-test out of box (after 300cc quiet running high idle)</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">25x10 metts</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">7200</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">0</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">ks1090</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">jager</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">25x12 Xoar</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6600</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">10.19</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">int80</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">pe-test out of box (after 300cc quiet running high idle)</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">25x12 Xoar</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6750</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">11.6</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">RE3/250</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">250mm header length</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">26x10 fiala</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6800</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">0</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">BMB-TP</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl28">Teremel (101" Yak 54 quiqui)</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">26x10 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">7050</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">10.4</td> <td width="94" align="right" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="6.9444444444444434E-2" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl29">01:40</td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">int80 prot</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">MVVS prototype muffler (Mvvs claimed 12HP at 8000)</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">26x10N mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6300</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">7.15</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">hp</td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">3211i Pitts</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">MVVS inverted pitts muffler</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">26x12 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6000</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">7.56</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">MVVS pitts</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">Andris sebins (stock pitts)</td> </tr> <tr height="35" style="height: 26.4pt;"> <td height="35" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 26.4pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">26x12 Metts-lam</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6610</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">0</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">KS1090 TP</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">78cm to reflector, Michel Jager</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">26x9 JAS</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6900</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">9.9</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">int 80 prot</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">janch real life data</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">27x10 JAS</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6340</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">0</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">int 80 prot</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">janch real life data</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">27x10TH mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">5800</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">7.5</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">3211i Pitts</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">MVVS inverted pitts muffler</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">27x10TH mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6000</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">7.56</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">MVVS pitts</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">Andris sebins (stock pitts)</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">27x10TH mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6750</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">11.5</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">RE3 / 355</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">Andris sebins</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">27x10TH mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">5800</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">7.5</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">3211S</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">MVVS side muffler, insert removed</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">27x10TH mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6200</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">9.2</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">int 58</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">MVVS, first tests</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">27x10TH mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6520</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">10.72</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">BMP-TP</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">teremel with MBP tuned pipe</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">27x10TH mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6210</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">9.26</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">int 80 prot</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">janch real life data</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">27x10TH mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">5400</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6.1</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">3211S</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">MVVS side muffler, insert in place</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">27x12TH mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">5800</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">9.1</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">TD115K</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">pe-test</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">27x12TH mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6090</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">9.78</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">int80</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">pe-test out of box (after 300cc quiet running high idle)</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">27x12TH mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6800</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">0</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">KS1090 TP</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">Michel Jager (prop noisy)</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">28x10 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6600</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">11.59</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">RE3 / 355</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">Andris</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">28x10 Xoar</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">5650</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">8.4</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">int80</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">pe-test out of box (after 300cc quiet running high idle)</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">28x12 Xoar</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">5000</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6.8</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">int80</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">pe-test out of box (after 300cc quiet running high idle)</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="height: 13.2pt;"></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;">DA85:</td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">25x12x3 elster</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6250</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">0</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">griffon. less pull than 28x10, same noise level</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">25x12x3 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">5990</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">9.16</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">KS1090</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">Very quiet</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">25x12x3 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">5540</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">7.25</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">Jtec</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">96dB</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">25x12x3 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6300</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">10.66</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">KS1090</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25"></td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">26A</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6750</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">7</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">Jtec</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">KrayzyRC</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">26B</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6400</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">7.27</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">Jtec</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">KrayzyRC</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">26x10</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6780</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">0</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">Jtec</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">KrayzyRC prop data?</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">26x10 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6350</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">7.61</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">Amsoil 100:1</td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">Jtec PITTS</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">Max RPM: 6,423, cold, 7400 in flight</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">26x10 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6900</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">9.76</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">RE3</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">javierkc</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">26x10 menz</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">5950</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6.94</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">lawnboy 1:32</td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">pitts</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25"></td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">26x10 menz</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6100</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">7.48</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25"></td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">26x10 NX</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6800</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">0</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">RE3</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25"></td> </tr> <tr height="35" style="height: 26.4pt;"> <td height="35" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 26.4pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">26x10 PT</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6670</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">0</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">slimline PITTS</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">not yet run in</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">26x10 xoar</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6780</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">10.97</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">KS1090</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">trev, extreme prop ripping</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">26x10 xoar</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6000</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">7.61</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">redline 40:1</td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">Jtec</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">super08</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">26x12</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6170</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">0</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">Jtec</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">KrayzyRC</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">26x12 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6250</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">8.55</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">KS can</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">klaus spindler</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">26x12 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6150</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">8.14</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">Jtec</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">outstanding pull very good IMAC</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">27A</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">5750</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">5.07</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">Jtec</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">KrayzyRC</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">27x10 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">5910</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">7.16</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">Jtec</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">96dB</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">27x10 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6610</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">10</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">KS1090</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">Not ripping</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">27x10 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6300</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">8.68</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">KS95</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">excellent performance sukhoy 35% 26lbs</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">27x10 mej</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6450</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">9.31</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">RE3</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">javierkc</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">27x10 menz</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">5950</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">8.1</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 70pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="83" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 62pt;" class="xl25">Jtec</td> <td width="64" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl25"></td> <td width="366" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 274pt;" class="xl25">94dB</td> </tr> <tr height="18" style="height: 13.2pt;"> <td height="18" width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" style="border-top: medium none; height: 13.2pt; width: 70pt;" class="xl25">27x10 menz</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">6580</td> <td width="64" bordercolor="#c0c0c0" x:num="" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" class="xl27">10.96</td> <td width="94" bordercolor="#c0c0c

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

Might want to clean up the data presentation a little Pe. It's a little confusing as it stands, but far more comprehensive that what can be found with any other engine. The MVVS was one of two alternatives I had in mind.

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

Was the MT / DJ80the other one ?http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...unge_smile.gif

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

Not a chance. Try 3w. I believe in only purchasing an engine once, and having it function correctly the first time.

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

Easier said than done.
Copy/paste for your own use. Data are sorted by prop size.

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

I undertand. Excel spreadsheets can be pertty finicky to reproduce.

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

I replaced it with Excel. The previous format was MSaccess, which I liked much better. I cannot edit the codes. The wysiwyg editor sucks.

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

Excellent information Pe.

Have you found much difference between the Single and the twinspark versions? I have both engines in airframes here and seem to have quite an improvement in power on the twinspark over the single (IRS version). Both are running the 3211i mufflers and both have 26/10 props (One Mej, one Xoar). The single spark (with the Mej) is similar power to your chart, the TS (with the Xoar - it will eventually have a 3 blade on it) has about 300 rpm more on the top end. Both are GREAT engines.

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

Steve,

Your experience with a twin spark system is consistent with experiences in other engines using T.S.

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

My MVVS 80 is a single spark and has a Xoar 26x10x3. I don't have a muffler on it, just an open flex header
With that prop, I get around 6300 but the main attraction to me is the smooth running of the engine

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

Yes, they are VERY nice running engines.
T.O.M, - one of mine (haven't decided which one yet) is heading into a scaled up version of Wrongway RC's "50cc Profiles" when I finally finish building it - before you say it - the airframe is being scaled up by 10% above the 50cc sizes. That ought to bring out the "schoolboy giggles" in me. It is likely to weigh over 7kg so will need to have a "heavy model inspection" here - can't wait to see the inspectors face when he tries to work that one out.

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

I haven't seen any user reports on the ZDZ 90 to date, I was hoping someone would have something to say here. There is one performance report on the ZDZ 180 on the giants site, nothing about the 90 however. I think once you hit the 80 cc mark, you are better off buying a 100 cc twin, singles vibrate too much for my liking.
Let see, now your choices are;
DA 85 - Good customer service, my experince is broad power range
ZDZ 90 - Unknown, my 80's (three)have top end power equal to DA85 however lack in mid range.
3W 80 - TOM's favorite, German design so it must be good, never seen in action but I would buy one
MVVS - Again never seen in action, no comment.

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

Here are my test data of the single spark engine.
"the gardener" has posted his experience with the engine on the other forum.

http://prme.nl/forum/images/80cc-mufflers.jpg

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

Nice plots!!

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

I would buy a 100cc-120cc twin engine instead. Vibrations from the singles could cause a lot of problems down the road.

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

I bet you say that to all the girls :)

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

You would be amazed at how smooth this engine really is. In comparison to my current 111cc, it is just as smooth

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

What engine?

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

I suspect he is referring to the ZDZ. My Super 80 was extremely smooth for such a large single.

Little off topic...but Steve as to the 3W's I am looking at placing an order for a 170 CS this morning. Just making the final decision now over a coffee. When you are awake half the night from dreaming about it, it is time. Either that or time to stay off the net. :D

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

I have a 3w 80cc in a Ziroli P40. Very smooth running with little vibration at idle. I'm swinging a Mej 24x12 3bl prop on this 36lbs beast and it flies it with authority and low noise to boost. I'll verify but remember getting about 6800 rpm on that prop.
The DA 85 with "update" to new piston with lower compression does not vibrate anymore than 100cc twins that I can notice. But it's hard to tell when you have different engines in different airframes (firewall rigidity does matter). It really boils down to where you're strapping the motor to make it fit well when it's 85 vs 100.
Regarding the original post, I have not seen anyone in our club run the new ZDZ 90. I've seen the ZDZ 80 super run smooth with very little vibration in couple warbirds. But the difference in service support may help you decide.

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

You hit the nail on the head, your 28 LB airframe will absorb the vibration, put that 80 into a 14 lb airframe and then tell me how smooth it is. My last ZDZ80 shook so bad it replaced it with a D&amp;B 5.1 twin.

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

Personally I wouldn't put a 80cc on a little 14lb airframe. A 50~55 at most, and even that would have an excess of power. I am not sure if you meant you have done it or if just using it for an example.

RE: DA-85 VS. the new ZDZ90, need info>>>
 

ZDZ 80 5 1/2 pound with ignition, add muffler, battery, prop, spinner plus the 14 airframe and you''re looking at 22 lb aircraft. The war bird weighted 36 pounds, I took off 8 for the engine resulting in 28 pound, twice the weight of a typical aerobatic airframe.
For 50 cc class, Aeroworks lists their Edge at 17 to 18 pounds while the 75cc Extra is listed at 20 to 21 pounds. I'm sure the confusion here is the weight I quoted was less engine. At any rate the warbird has about twice the mass to adsorb the vibration pulses which in turn results in lower overall vibration. Most 80's would seem smooth on a 28 pound airframe.</p>