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cuwaert 10-12-2011 01:52 AM

technical issues
 
Hi all,


I believe our hobby has a specific technical character and many of what is written down on this forum
is about technical issues.
What you get is a mass of contradictions about methods, oil percentages, rpm's, needle settings..
you name it. I can imagine that people who want to expose their problem here hoping to find a direct solution
many times get more confused as they were before.
For instance, a (apparently) simple system as a single-cil combustion engine seems to behave differently
in (apparantly) similar circumstances. Note however that due to tolerances no engine is similar even
if same type and brand and tight tolerances cost money and money..we don't have.
No circumstance is similar, airpressure/ moisture , prop type, gas/oil mixture and brand, exhaust....
The popular Walbro carburetter seems to be very sensitive to surrounding airpressure and is a major
cause of weird behaviour of the engine in flying conditions. When will there be a computer driven
injection system?
The proposed cure's and methods might work for some and not for others and this is what we encounter
througout the forum.
Statistics many times provide for strong indications of this or that has a fair chance to fit reality
for instance the forum about the GF42i wich massively states the poor quality of the engine.
However statistic reliability requires major amounts of responses (wich is the case in the above thread).
Jugements of sounds, vibrations and even power differ from person to person and is difficult to rely on.
Country culture's cause different experiences and makes people put energy in different fields
of the hobby wich shifts the gravity of knowledge to other issues for instance noise and the related
vibration.

Well you've been needing some linguistic souplesse to understand my international English but what
I try to say is that in many cases it isn't all that simple to derivate the direct cure for your problem.
Reading the concerning threads although is extremely interesting because it contains the actual stuff
to synthesise the cure for your problem.

jedijody 10-12-2011 06:02 AM

RE: technical issues
 
Huh?

goirish 10-12-2011 06:07 AM

RE: technical issues
 
I think he has a problem with his throat. what did he say?????:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Tired Old Man 10-12-2011 06:25 AM

RE: technical issues
 
I think he said nobody knows what they are talking about because nothing is standardized.

spaceworm 10-12-2011 06:28 AM

RE: technical issues
 
I think he said he said:

...what I try to say is that in many cases it isn't all that simple to derivate the direct cure for your problem.
Reading the concerning threads although is extremely interesting because it contains the actual stuff
to synthesise the cure for your problem. [8D]

Super08 10-12-2011 07:08 AM

RE: technical issues
 
He would make great Politician.

ameyam 10-12-2011 08:00 AM

RE: technical issues
 


ORIGINAL: Super08

He would make great Politician.
I concur unequivocally :):):)

Ameyam

acerc 10-12-2011 08:17 AM

RE: technical issues
 
Would not all of that be summed up with three or four letter's. IMO  or  IMHO

Lnewqban 10-12-2011 09:02 AM

RE: technical issues
 


ORIGINAL: cuwaert

What you get is a mass of contradictions about methods, oil percentages, rpm's, needle settings..
you name it. I can imagine that people who want to expose their problem here hoping to find a direct solution
many times get more confused as they were before.

"It is not best that we should all think alike; it is a difference of opinion that makes horse races." Mark Twain

"If you're not confused, you're not paying attention." Tom Peters

:)

cloudancer03 10-12-2011 09:52 AM

RE: technical issues
 
I understood him as clear as mud....he said blah blah yada yada #$%^*& .god that was easy!gessh jodi its just plain english lol.

clivemc 10-12-2011 09:57 AM

RE: technical issues
 
technically speaking, he is right of course, there never was an issue, but now there is

skillet92 10-12-2011 10:38 AM

RE: technical issues
 
Guys you are all going about this wrong. You have to be of the same mind set to understand it obviously! Tonight after your favorite libation or 3, come back and read it. I bet it will make perfect since!:D:D I do it all the time and then the next day reread an email or FB post I sent and go what was I trying to say!:)

dogshome 10-12-2011 11:54 AM

RE: technical issues
 
I think he's saying that there are a lot of factors in running a gas engine and no one solution fits all. I agree - much like weather predictions, nothing is going to be completely correct for everyone.

But filter the information and what's left; is good [8D]


Jezmo 10-12-2011 02:09 PM

RE: technical issues
 
Dang, I sense some Rocket Science here guys!

thepamster 10-12-2011 02:37 PM

RE: technical issues
 
I searched forums about a GF42i and found the op's post the only reference to that number. So what is that suppose to be?
The actual question he seemed to pose is "When will there be a computer driven fuel injected gas engine"?

The Pamster

nonstoprc 10-12-2011 04:53 PM

RE: technical issues
 
He is telling us how to survive in this hobby, in real doing-it sense (not on paper). I agree with him.

ameyam 10-12-2011 06:05 PM

RE: technical issues
 
Ok, I perused once more and concur, I cognise a jiff more subsequently. But only a jiff:)

Wish people would write in plain english so I dont have to use the Thesauraus more often

Ameyam

Rudolph Hart 10-12-2011 06:25 PM

RE: technical issues
 
You;re being tricky..:) i don't think my thesauraus lists the word jiff?

3136 10-13-2011 01:09 AM

RE: technical issues
 
I seem to sense he would like a seperate sticky thread written by the knowledgeable like T.O.M  and Jedi etc on a few common topics so we don't have to sift through a lot of dribble to get the answer we need.
The new to gas engines sticky is great but a few more specific ones would be good.
Sometimes threads can drift off topic and have heaps of different opinions. Stickys made by the "masters" would be a good (quick) reference.

Regards Mark

pmerritt 10-13-2011 03:10 AM

RE: technical issues
 
<font size="4">If this were a cookie cutter hobby, we'd all be out there flying a yellow cub with a 2 cell battery and a 3 channel am radio!  What makes it interesting is the variety and diversity of each aircraft and their independent characteristics in flight.
I'm going to go eat my cookie Cub now before I start to sound like that first post. (what did he say anyway?)</font>

oliveDrab 10-13-2011 03:18 AM

RE: technical issues
 
Dang! We don't often see such high-falutin' ideas/words on RCU. (By the way - you mispelled "wich" - should have been "which").

nonstoprc 10-13-2011 04:22 AM

RE: technical issues
 
I think you will learn more with flying the thing well than just flying it. How many of us have the guts/time/energy/patience to fly IMAC/pattern on a daily basis?

The learning space in is hobby is quite big and we may not have time in our life to cover it all.

TimBle 10-13-2011 04:32 AM

RE: technical issues
 
In summary problems don't really exist until we try to solve them

nonstoprc 10-13-2011 04:56 AM

RE: technical issues
 
Or a goal that we try to achieve it.

hsukaria 10-13-2011 06:34 AM

RE: technical issues
 
Isn't the European Union headquartered in Belguim, where the OP is from? Explains a lot.:D


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