Two Stroke Oils
 

Hey Gang

I can give you some facts about the two stroke oils. I was into dirt bike racing and my son was later into it. I am sure a few more companies have popped up that makes good oil, I won't have any information on them.

Stihl is very proud of thier equipment, they want to keep thier good name so they want thier equipment to last long. They spenta lotof money when we started adding alcohols to our gasolines to countermand the effects of the alcohol insidethe cylinder on thier two strokes For pump gasoline you can't get better and I'd think you'd be hard pressed to find any as good. Thier research is ten and one. The Stihl oil I use comes in the red bottle, They have a new synthetic out, but Iwon't use it.

For leaded gasoline LL Av Gas or racing Gasoline, For me Yamalube is the way to go. When Yamaha was kicking everyones tail on the dirt bike scene in the 80's and 90's, all the racing teams were using Yamalube in thier bike, whether it was Honda, Suzuki or what ever make. Because it was common knowlege among the racers that yamaha had done the same thing with thier two stroke oil that Stihl did, spent a lot of money testing and researching

There are still a lot of the old two stroke Yamaha's outthere racing and Yamaha is the only murdercycle dealers I know of that sell leaded racinggas and the oil mix.

I am quitesure there are some othercompanies out there with quality oils, I can't speak for, nor againstsynthetic. I won't use it

For myself, pump gas gets Stihl, racing gas gets yamalube

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I use the same gas/oil mixture in practically all my small gas engines.
Pure gas with Stihl Ultra and all is well with my little engines.

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whatEvererrrr....

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Urgh.

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PAR!! murdercycle dealers

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Get some popcorn and sit back and wait for the fireworks.

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What a waste of bandwidth.

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What? No fireworks?

Very disappointed.

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By the way, I'm not insulting the thread starter. There are many choices of oil and most work well. It's just that people have some kind of religious devotion to their oil and anyone else who chooses a different oil or insults their oil is automatically wrong. Same goes with automotive oil.

I have always used what works for me.

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Good to know that the massive Stihl offshore rigs and refineries are pumping it out as fast as their machine shops are fabricating chainsaws.

Sure.

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indeed! Also really happy to see that the Stihl tribologists and chemists are hard at work at maintaining their formulations and designing new additives and base oils that keeps Stihl at the forefront of lubricant technology. What an amazing company

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I'm curious if anyone knows. Does Stihl make their own oil or do they buy it from some major oil company and then rebrand it as their own. I'm not dissing Stihl as I use their Ultra at 40:1 in my engines once broken in. Perhaps they buy a base oil from a major supplier and then add whatever ingredients that they think is best.

I think I read somewhere that Stihl oil is produced by Castrol. I do know that just because you read it somewhere (especially on the internet) doesn't make it true.

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Gee I thought if it's on the net it has to be true. now I'm upset.

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About the 20th thread on oils in the past2 years, but who's counting?

W8YE, please more popcorn eaters, please!! I said P-l-e-a-s-e!!

Did you find Charlie the Tuna eating popcorn?

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There has been an oil thread started almost weekly for the whole time I have been a member here. [8D]

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I don't know if this is true or not .......

On other forums (Chainsaw and Lawn Equip.), it has been stated that Stihl oil is packaged by at least two different companies depending on where in the world it is marketed. A published photo of a bottle of Stihl Ultra even had the Castrol logo on it. I guess the photo could have been edited but I doubt it. None of the bottles I have seen personally had the logo.

I would find it very hard to believe that Stihl actually produces or even packages any of their oils. Why should they if they can get it produced and packaged to their specs.

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The miracle of MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheets)

Stihl Ultraand LS (Low Smoke) areproduced by Omni Specialty.

http://www.stihlusa.com/WebContent/C...l_HP_Ultra.pdf

http://www.stihlusa.com/WebContent/C...owSmokeOil.pdf

HP Super by Andreas

http://www.stihlusa.com/WebContent/C...uper_(USA).pdf

In Canada the 2T Premium is by Casterol.

http://en.stihl.ca/p/media/download/...l__MSDS_CA.pdf


Stihl gets around more than a $20 hooker.


Interestingly, the Pro-Mix 2-Cycle oil Iget at Lowes for $7/pint is produced by Wildcat Fuels - who make radio control glow and are a subsidary of Consolidated Aerospace Engineering.

http://www.wildcatfuels.com/

http://www.oncboces.org/files/630150...e%20Oil%20.pdf

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Stuhl are so amazing that 450 million years ago they owned dinosaurs and a swamp. So great was their vision that they knew that if they fed the dinosaurs well and kept the swamp wet by making sure meteorites only landed on the other side of the globe, the dinosaurs would die fat and healthy and give us the miracle of Stihl HP ULtra oils in the 21st century. Taking continental drift into account they strategically positioned themselves as suppliers to the lumber market, one of the worlds biggest money spinners, and started their own lubricants company. They now own their own ocean floor, drilling rigs, base oil refineries, additives and chemicals companies, steel mills and foundries plus machining plants. I suspect they also have invented time travel but they're just not saying....

I have mentioned many times where Stihl comes from and who the current supplier is but maybe the above story is more easily digested.
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That's the funniest thing i've read in a long time,more power too you:)

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Castrol Greentec XTS; http://www.midlandtool.com/MSDS/Stih...0Oil%20Mix.pdf :)

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Thanks Charlie P

That answers it. The bottles I have list part number 0781-313-8008, which matches the numbers given by Omni Specialty Packaging. Castrol part number is different even though they produce some Stihl oil.

Mike

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The part numbers are different because its specified in the contract that they are different....<div>HOw do I know that the contract specifies a different part number? Because all lubricant blenders who toll blend for other companies have similar provision in their contracts and it assists them in tracking their SKU's.</div><div>the lubricant formulation may be similar to BP BioLube 2T but the packaging and label is different therefore its a different SKU and gets a different part number</div>

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Good explanation

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It's better than good,it's awesome.Righto..i'm getting that bottle of cooking oil out of the pantry to see if it has any part numbers i can trace to keep myself busy.Might run some in my gasser and see what happens.

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Please video that.