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PerFlight 05-03-2008 02:21 AM
RE: DL-50 engine
 
It appears I was mislead by SV Engines, that's why forums like this can easly debunk false claims by other manufacturers. I will be more carefull in the future about posting claims of new engines. I have ordered the engines and will report thier performance in a new thread. Thanks for all of your help.

P47Tbolt 05-03-2008 05:58 AM
RE: DL-50 engine
 
ORIGINAL: lil-redrex

Also in his pics it states its a CM6 plug, looks to me more like a 14mm plug that SV use, not a 10mm CM6.

Possibly just the photo angle, but looks like the standard bigger stick through the cowl plugs that SV use with thier engines also.

You are right about the spark plug.If you look at the middle pic on post 1681,you can see on the plug in the engine reads CMR on it.
I looked locally for a CM-6,thought I found one,went to pic it up and it was a CMR6 NGk plug.It was a 14 mm plug with longer threads.
So I am still looking locally.probably will have to order a couple.

Test005 05-03-2008 06:25 PM
RE: DL-50 engine
 
I have ordered the DL50 as my first big gasoline engine (have had 25cc before, but this is my first big as in 50cc :) )
Are there any tips on how to connect the trottle and choke and other general tips on the DL50 I should know about.... (Have tried to follow this thread, but it's a lot of pages and text to go thru)

Do you guys think this plane will be a good fit for the engine?
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/taxi2400.htm

Antique 05-03-2008 07:41 PM
RE: DL-50 engine
 
A CMR6 spark plug is a 10mm thread.. Look at sparkplugs.com..There IS a difference..
RC EXL will put anyone's name on the box.....

thevirginian 05-03-2008 07:58 PM
RE: DL-50 engine
 
Test005
I think the Dl50 will be an overkill for that airplane. You might be better off with a Zenoah G38 or something in that area.

craigteffe 05-03-2008 09:06 PM
RE: DL-50 engine
 
It might be overkill but the price of the zenoah is still more than the DL. I would go with the Dl and that way if you want to go with something more aerobatic later your have an engine that will handle it.

gr8taz nitro 05-03-2008 10:24 PM
RE: DL-50 engine
 

ORIGINAL: P47Tbolt

ORIGINAL: lil-redrex

Also in his pics it states its a CM6 plug, looks to me more like a 14mm plug that SV use, not a 10mm CM6.

Possibly just the photo angle, but looks like the standard bigger stick through the cowl plugs that SV use with thier engines also.

You are right about the spark plug.If you look at the middle pic on post 1681,you can see on the plug in the engine reads CMR on it.
I looked locally for a CM-6,thought I found one,went to pic it up and it was a CMR6 NGk plug.It was a 14 mm plug with longer threads.
So I am still looking locally.probably will have to order a couple.
I get mine from the local O'reilly autoparts store. I think I paid $4 per plug last time I got em about a month ago. If you can't get em try your LHS if they are a horizon dealer. Horizon Hobby carries cm6 plugs now for $6.35 each now, part#EVO30013309. They're higher than a parts store, but they have em in stock now.

Test005 05-04-2008 03:06 AM
RE: DL-50 engine
 
I have sort of already gone with the DL50. It's on order and will arrive to me next week :)
The Taxi2400 airplane is matched for a 26cc gasoline engine, but at almost 8 feet wingspan and 18lbs all out weight I thought a 50 would be a better fit?

Anyhow, it's kinda hard to find a good plane for a 50cc that is not:
A: One of the 3D brothers (yak, edge, extra, yak, yak)
B: Super Cub


I think I'll go with the Taxi2400 if nobody stops me ?

fay 05-04-2008 01:43 PM
RE: DL-50 engine
 
Hi all again,

Just a quick question..
I'm going to put Skywriter smoke pump and anyone have diagram or any idea where to drill on standard muffler?
and lastly what size recommended thread size?

Thank you
fay

chuck l 05-04-2008 05:26 PM
RE: DL-50 engine
 
Test005
I would be concerned about putting the power of a DL50 on that type of plane. Extra weight, greatly over powering the airframe, balancing issues, tearing out the firewall, prop clearance. I have a G26 and a couple of DL50's, and there is a hugh power difference. The DL50 is a high performance engine intended for highly aerobatic planes. However, the DL50 will hover it and give it OMG, out of site vertical.

My two cents worth
Chuck

Pedro the swift 05-05-2008 04:37 AM
RE: DL-50 engine
 

FlyingGreg 05-05-2008 06:42 AM
RE: DL-50 engine
 
On Vess 22A and synthetic oil/fuel mixture (first tank after break in on Lawnboy) and tweaking low end needle, I was hitting 7400rpm. OMG. Unfortunately, I had a mid-senior moment and allowed plane, Giant Aeromaster, get way to slow on landing which resulted in a stall about 8 feet off the deck. Dinged up a wing tip (not bad) and destroyed my BRAND NEW VESS!!! That was a $37 landing[:@]. I am re-ording the Vess today. That was one beautiful prop. The broken hob will be mounted on the wall in my shop to remind me of my stupidity. And it was in front of a whole bunch of other pilots. Feel lower than snake slime.

paul5992 05-05-2008 09:38 PM
RE: DL-50 engine
 
I went flying tonight and it was great!:D The DL run purfect and started like a dream every time. It hovers my 16.5 pound yak at 1/2 thottle, and punch it, to the moon, this motor is unreal for the price.

wavy777 05-06-2008 03:03 AM
RE: DL-50 engine
 

ORIGINAL: Test005

I have sort of already gone with the DL50. It's on order and will arrive to me next week :)
The Taxi2400 airplane is matched for a 26cc gasoline engine, but at almost 8 feet wingspan and 18lbs all out weight I thought a 50 would be a better fit?

Anyhow, it's kinda hard to find a good plane for a 50cc that is not:
A: One of the 3D brothers (yak, edge, extra, yak, yak)
B: Super Cub


I think I'll go with the Taxi2400 if nobody stops me ?
I think thats a nice match for the DL, just use some 'throttle management' :D..post some pics when its finished, would like to see a pic of it hovering too!! [8D]

Klemen SU27 05-06-2008 09:21 AM
RE: DL-50 engine
 
Hello everyone!
This is my first post on RCU. I didn't read all the posts in this discusion, because it is too much, just last ones.
I'm also getting to buy DL 50, but I'am a little bit confused what I see on this page http://svgroup.en.alibaba.com/group/...el_Engine.html
I really don't know which is the latest DL-50? Why are there so much 50cc engines? Some have DL, other SV mark.
My friends have DL-50 V2 and they are working great! I don't know why there should be new versions?
Regards from EU-Slovenia

pupmeister 05-06-2008 04:20 PM
RE: DL-50 engine
 

ORIGINAL: Klemen SU27

Hello everyone!
This is my first post on RCU. I didn't read all the posts in this discusion, because it is too much, just last ones.
I'm also getting to buy DL 50, but I'am a little bit confused what I see on this page http://svgroup.en.alibaba.com/group/...el_Engine.html
I really don't know which is the latest DL-50? Why are there so much 50cc engines? Some have DL, other SV mark.
My friends have DL-50 V2 and they are working great! I don't know why there should be new versions?
Regards from EU-Slovenia
Start reading from this post, [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=7438765]www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=7438765[/link] , it should answer all your questions.

Cheers
Pupmeister

3DNutZ 05-07-2008 02:00 PM
RE: DL-50 engine
 
It looks like DL-usa is now in the same position Desert Aircraft was in 2 years ago when the DL came out and dipped into their sales. It didn't take long for that to come full circle. DZY will have a clone to release before long as well. I say, the more engines the better!. It's all good for the consumer. The engine is beautiful. I wonder how long it will be before somebody hangs a 65cc cyllinder on one of these blocks. I'll give them a hint. Same prop bolt pattern as the DA, same motor mount pattern as the DA, CM-6 plug, and lite. Unbolt the DA-50, or DL-50 and screw down the 65cc motor. Whoever pulls this off will sell tons of engines.

ca$hey 05-07-2008 02:19 PM
RE: DL-50 engine
 
Giday,,does anyone know if you can run the DL on a 1 cell lipo?

3DNutZ 05-07-2008 03:48 PM
RE: DL-50 engine
 
ORIGINAL: meridianflyer

Maybee the guys from DL USA could chime in here and let us know what really is going on. I read in this thread to be carefull of who you are buying a DL, some were 2nd hand refurbs being sold. I would not buy one unless it was from DL USA, this way you know it is the real deal, and you know it has been checked, has warranty and support. If their really is a version 3 then swee!!!!
Make no mistake, there are people that would like you to believe that they and only they have quailty DL engines. By scaring you into believing this, prices stay inflated. You see..... its competition that drives prices down, remove the competition and prices go up. Pretty simple stuff. I personally have purchased 5 of them dirrect from Taiwan on 3 different occasions, paid 270 including shipping for each one. Took 5 days to recieve them. Every engine was perfect. 2nd hand refurbishied engines, what a bunch of BS


meridianflyer 05-07-2008 04:59 PM
RE: DL-50 engine
 
I am glad everything has worked out for you, me on the other hand would rather spend the extra few bucks to go thru the US supplier and get the support and warranty along with the added feeling that if something is wrong I will be taken care of. From everything I have heard and read about Dl, their customer service is awesome and the engine kicks but. I will admit that I do not own a DL yet, but will in about 2 to 3 weeks:D Not pointing any fingers here, but the first guy to usually squell like a stuck pig is the guy that bought it over seas and now is piised off because the US supplier wont do his warranty work or help him out, Cant blame the US supplier. Just remember it is buyer beware. I personally would not buy a product that did not have a US distrubutor with no support.

3DNutZ 05-07-2008 05:47 PM
RE: DL-50 engine
 
ORIGINAL: meridianflyer

I am glad everything has worked out for you, me on the other hand would rather spend the extra few bucks to go thru the US supplier and get the support and warranty along with the added feeling that if something is wrong I will be taken care of. From everything I have heard and read about Dl, their customer service is awesome and the engine kicks but. I will admit that I do not own a DL yet, but will in about 2 to 3 weeks:D Not pointing any fingers here, but the first guy to usually squell like a stuck pig is the guy that bought it over seas and now is piised off because the US supplier wont do his warranty work or help him out, Cant blame the US supplier. Just remember it is buyer beware. I personally would not buy a product that did not have a US distrubutor with no support.
I haven't seen any history of problems with these engines yet that would lead me to believe there is any appreciable probablilty that it will fail. The way I see it, I can save 120 dollars per engine, that money will be used for fixing the engine should something go wrong. Even if it's my fault, my own personal waranty covers the expenses up to 120.00 and I don't have to pay shipping to send it in. How long is the waranty on a DL engine, 2 years? My self waranty if not used during the first two years go's on for life, or untill used. You can buy a lot of DL parts for 120 bucks. Of course if you don't have the ability to remove a few bolts and replace the parts yourself, then I think your idea is definatly the best route for you. Here is another way to look at it. Buy 2 and you nearly get one free. Where can you get a better waranty than having a new engine on the shelf ready to go if needed! I have the ability to bolt new parts on my engine, so in MY case paying more is like buying an extended waranty. I never buy extended warantys on anything. If you know about Best Buys business model, you will know thats where they make the money. Same with Used cars ect.... We live in a free country, isn't it great that we can do as we please!

meridianflyer 05-07-2008 09:20 PM
RE: DL-50 engine
 

ORIGINAL: 3DNutZ

ORIGINAL: meridianflyer

I am glad everything has worked out for you, me on the other hand would rather spend the extra few bucks to go thru the US supplier and get the support and warranty along with the added feeling that if something is wrong I will be taken care of. From everything I have heard and read about Dl, their customer service is awesome and the engine kicks but. I will admit that I do not own a DL yet, but will in about 2 to 3 weeks:D Not pointing any fingers here, but the first guy to usually squell like a stuck pig is the guy that bought it over seas and now is piised off because the US supplier wont do his warranty work or help him out, Cant blame the US supplier. Just remember it is buyer beware. I personally would not buy a product that did not have a US distrubutor with no support.
I haven't seen any history of problems with these engines yet that would lead me to believe there is any appreciable probablilty that it will fail. The way I see it, I can save 120 dollars per engine, that money will be used for fixing the engine should something go wrong. Even if it's my fault, my own personal waranty covers the expenses up to 120.00 and I don't have to pay shipping to send it in. How long is the waranty on a DL engine, 2 years? My self waranty if not used during the first two years go's on for life, or untill used. You can buy a lot of DL parts for 120 bucks. Of course if you don't have the ability to remove a few bolts and replace the parts yourself, then I think your idea is definatly the best route for you. Here is another way to look at it. Buy 2 and you nearly get one free. Where can you get a better waranty than having a new engine on the shelf ready to go if needed! I have the ability to bolt new parts on my engine, so in MY case paying more is like buying an extended waranty. I never buy extended warantys on anything. If you know about Best Buys business model, you will know thats where they make the money. Same with Used cars ect.... We live in a free country, isn't it great that we can do as we please!
3DNutZ,
You do pose a good point, always looking to stretch my hobby dollar as well. But with my luck I woud get hosed. In your case, seems like you know whats going on. People just need to be careful and not get duped into buying a knock off.

3DNutZ 05-08-2008 07:23 AM
RE: DL-50 engine
 

ORIGINAL: meridianflyer


ORIGINAL: 3DNutZ

ORIGINAL: meridianflyer

I am glad everything has worked out for you, me on the other hand would rather spend the extra few bucks to go thru the US supplier and get the support and warranty along with the added feeling that if something is wrong I will be taken care of. From everything I have heard and read about Dl, their customer service is awesome and the engine kicks but. I will admit that I do not own a DL yet, but will in about 2 to 3 weeks:D Not pointing any fingers here, but the first guy to usually squell like a stuck pig is the guy that bought it over seas and now is piised off because the US supplier wont do his warranty work or help him out, Cant blame the US supplier. Just remember it is buyer beware. I personally would not buy a product that did not have a US distrubutor with no support.
I haven't seen any history of problems with these engines yet that would lead me to believe there is any appreciable probablilty that it will fail. The way I see it, I can save 120 dollars per engine, that money will be used for fixing the engine should something go wrong. Even if it's my fault, my own personal waranty covers the expenses up to 120.00 and I don't have to pay shipping to send it in. How long is the waranty on a DL engine, 2 years? My self waranty if not used during the first two years go's on for life, or untill used. You can buy a lot of DL parts for 120 bucks. Of course if you don't have the ability to remove a few bolts and replace the parts yourself, then I think your idea is definatly the best route for you. Here is another way to look at it. Buy 2 and you nearly get one free. Where can you get a better waranty than having a new engine on the shelf ready to go if needed! I have the ability to bolt new parts on my engine, so in MY case paying more is like buying an extended waranty. I never buy extended warantys on anything. If you know about Best Buys business model, you will know thats where they make the money. Same with Used cars ect.... We live in a free country, isn't it great that we can do as we please!
3DNutZ,
You do pose a good point, always looking to stretch my hobby dollar as well. But with my luck I woud get hosed. In your case, seems like you know whats going on. People just need to be careful and not get duped into buying a knock off.
I have to laugh about your last line, "don't get duped into buying a knock off" I'm not laughing at you, but its just funny, are you aware THE DL-50 IS A KNOCK OFF!

driesbabe 05-08-2008 07:32 AM
RE: DL-50 engine
 

ORIGINAL: JONNEY ROTTON

Giday,,does anyone know if you can run the DL on a 1 cell lipo?
Jonney,
I run a 1300mah lipo on the DL-50 single cell yes, you can fly all day.

meridianflyer 05-08-2008 08:12 AM
RE: DL-50 engine
 

ORIGINAL: 3DNutZ


ORIGINAL: meridianflyer


ORIGINAL: 3DNutZ

ORIGINAL: meridianflyer

I am glad everything has worked out for you, me on the other hand would rather spend the extra few bucks to go thru the US supplier and get the support and warranty along with the added feeling that if something is wrong I will be taken care of. From everything I have heard and read about Dl, their customer service is awesome and the engine kicks but. I will admit that I do not own a DL yet, but will in about 2 to 3 weeks:D Not pointing any fingers here, but the first guy to usually squell like a stuck pig is the guy that bought it over seas and now is piised off because the US supplier wont do his warranty work or help him out, Cant blame the US supplier. Just remember it is buyer beware. I personally would not buy a product that did not have a US distrubutor with no support.
I haven't seen any history of problems with these engines yet that would lead me to believe there is any appreciable probablilty that it will fail. The way I see it, I can save 120 dollars per engine, that money will be used for fixing the engine should something go wrong. Even if it's my fault, my own personal waranty covers the expenses up to 120.00 and I don't have to pay shipping to send it in. How long is the waranty on a DL engine, 2 years? My self waranty if not used during the first two years go's on for life, or untill used. You can buy a lot of DL parts for 120 bucks. Of course if you don't have the ability to remove a few bolts and replace the parts yourself, then I think your idea is definatly the best route for you. Here is another way to look at it. Buy 2 and you nearly get one free. Where can you get a better waranty than having a new engine on the shelf ready to go if needed! I have the ability to bolt new parts on my engine, so in MY case paying more is like buying an extended waranty. I never buy extended warantys on anything. If you know about Best Buys business model, you will know thats where they make the money. Same with Used cars ect.... We live in a free country, isn't it great that we can do as we please!
3DNutZ,
You do pose a good point, always looking to stretch my hobby dollar as well. But with my luck I woud get hosed. In your case, seems like you know whats going on. People just need to be careful and not get duped into buying a knock off.
I have to laugh about your last line, "don't get duped into buying a knock off" I'm not laughing at you, but its just funny, are you aware THE DL-50 IS A KNOCK OFF!
Yea, I guess you you are right!!! The DL is a knock off. Iguess What I really meant to say was be carefully and dont buy an engine posing to be a DL when it really is a different brand.


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