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swixtt 12-26-2007 11:09 AM

Evolution 26
 
Well, i need some help figuring out these Gas engines. i'm new to them and have read so many different opinions on them.
First off, i'm planning on installing it in a CB Sukhoi Kit 72" version.(not quite done, but getting to the engine install very soon) i'm going with gas in this mainly because of cost of fuel, amount of fuel consumed versus the glow and clean up. i know this engine won't have as much power as a Saito 150 but i don't do any 3D flying, just basic aerobatic flying.
Do these Evo engines come with a muffler? engine mount? and is a 5cell ignition battery needed or a 4cell?

thanks guys for any info on helping me out!


blw 12-26-2007 11:25 AM

RE: Evolution 26
 
Do you mean the Carl Goldberg kit? If so, this would probably give you a little more than scale like power.

swixtt 12-26-2007 11:27 AM

RE: Evolution 26
 


ORIGINAL: blw

Do you mean the Carl Goldberg kit? If so, this would probably give you a little more than scale like power.
Yes sir, it is the Carl Goldberg!

blw 12-26-2007 05:45 PM

RE: Evolution 26
 
There are two very long threads on both the kit and ARF version of the Sukhoi. All are very good with a lot of information on this model.

A 1.20 four stroke is the minimum suggested engine, or about 20cc.

Bob Pastorello 12-26-2007 07:07 PM

RE: Evolution 26
 


ORIGINAL: swixtt

Well, i need some help figuring out these Gas engines. i'm new to them and have read so many different opinions on them.
First off, i'm planning on installing it in a CB Sukhoi Kit 72" version.(not quite done, but getting to the engine install very soon) i'm going with gas in this mainly because of cost of fuel, amount of fuel consumed versus the glow and clean up. i know this engine won't have as much power as a Saito 150 but i don't do any 3D flying, just basic aerobatic flying.
Do these Evo engines come with a muffler? engine mount? and is a 5cell ignition battery needed or a 4cell?

thanks guys for any info on helping me out!


Based on my experience with several MVVS 26cc, same as the Evolution 26, they are slugs unless you run a tuned pipe, and really suck on a canister-type muffler. Get the Brillelli 26SSR or the BCMA 26, or even the Zenoah G26EI..... but definitely PASS if you're looking at the MVVS/Evolution 26cc in a Sukhoi.

swixtt 12-26-2007 07:16 PM

RE: Evolution 26
 


ORIGINAL: blw

There are two very long threads on both the kit and ARF version of the Sukhoi. All are very good with a lot of information on this model.

A 1.20 four stroke is the minimum suggested engine, or about 20cc.
Yeah, i've got em in my fav. list. read pretty much every post and a lot of guys say 1.20 4 isn't enough. 1.5 is nice. you not think so?
anyway, i appreciate all input because, well, i've never flown this plane, never seen one fly, etc. just trying to get a good idea of what will be a nice setup!

blw 12-26-2007 08:11 PM

RE: Evolution 26
 
A couple of guys have Saito 170R3s on theirs and that's what I have for my kit. It is rated as putting out the same HP as the Saito 1.20. Yes, this is cutting it close but those guys say theirs flies okay. Not really great, but good enough. I need to put the engine on something and this is what I have waiting to build.

Otherwise, I would say put something bigger on it and that is getting into gas territory.

swixtt 12-26-2007 08:15 PM

RE: Evolution 26
 


ORIGINAL: blw

A couple of guys have Saito 170R3s on theirs and that's what I have for my kit. It is rated as putting out the same HP as the Saito 1.20. Yes, this is cutting it close but those guys say theirs flies okay. Not really great, but good enough. I need to put the engine on something and this is what I have waiting to build.

Otherwise, I would say put something bigger on it and that is getting into gas territory.
You've got this CB Sukhoi kit?? 2nd edition i assume? i'm building the first edition with LG on the wing.
so the 1.50 would be a nice setup over the Evo 26, you think?

blw 12-27-2007 10:14 AM

RE: Evolution 26
 
From what I can tell, the newer kits are the fourth revision. Yours must be one of the first kits but I would have to look that up to be sure. The wing design was changed and they have done a few things with the landing gear.

I don't know about the 1.50 over going gas myself. This is one of those borderline kits imo. Gas would certainly be nice on it though.

swixtt 12-27-2007 10:20 AM

RE: Evolution 26
 


ORIGINAL: blw

From what I can tell, the newer kits are the fourth revision. Yours must be one of the first kits but I would have to look that up to be sure. The wing design was changed and they have done a few things with the landing gear.

I don't know about the 1.50 over going gas myself. This is one of those borderline kits imo. Gas would certainly be nice on it though.
yeah, that's my dilema as well. that 1.50 is going to go through the fuel pretty quickly where the gasser would probably use a 1/3rd. or less. my gear is on the wing but i have reinforced it everywhere i can think of because of the 'gear problem' that was changed in the later kits.
well, still don't know what to do about the power. Gas or Saito Glow.? hmmmm

NM2K 12-27-2007 11:47 AM

RE: Evolution 26
 
Stick a Brillelli 36cc gas engine in the nose of that kit. Then you'll have a gasser with enough power to pretty much do as you please.


Ed Cregger

blw 12-27-2007 01:35 PM

RE: Evolution 26
 
Even though I think a gas engine would be good for the kit, I wouldn't worry too much about the fuel economy on a Saito 1.50. This is a pretty economical engine once you get the needle valves set correctly.

swixtt 12-27-2007 01:37 PM

RE: Evolution 26
 


ORIGINAL: Ed Cregger

Stick a Brillelli 36cc gas engine in the nose of that kit. Then you'll have a gasser with enough power to pretty much do as you please.


Ed Cregger
i'm going to google and search that out. not too big for this little plane??? think the wing is 950 area.

ThunderT 12-27-2007 03:10 PM

RE: Evolution 26
 
I have this plane in the arf version I tried a 120 4stroke and it was not enough, then I tried a bcma26 still would not have very good vertical, for Christmas my wife bought me the brillelli 26ssr, Im trying to get it mounted this weekend, I can let you know the results, but it needs a light weight gas engine to balance thats why I did not try the brillelli 36.

swixtt 12-27-2007 03:15 PM

RE: Evolution 26
 


ORIGINAL: ThunderT

I have this plane in the arf version I tried a 120 4stroke and it was not enough, then I tried a bcma26 still would not have very good vertical, for Christmas my wife bought me the brillelli 26ssr, Im trying to get it mounted this weekend, I can let you know the results, but it needs a light weight gas engine to balance thats why I did not try the brillelli 36.
Yeah, that would be great to hear what your results are!! i was just reading the thread on the 26... it gets very good reviews.

keep me posted!

thanks


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