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Old 03-17-2014, 07:10 AM
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Question cap 232 50cc servos

Recently bought the Alitalia version Cap 232, it's older, I am new at freestyle 3D. Instructions call for 80oz/in servos and I know that ain't right. For my beginner level, the weight of the plane, what size servos should I use without going broke in the mean time. Digital vs. analog? Thanks Art.
Old 03-17-2014, 12:10 PM
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I would recommend these tactical servos. You get the best bang for your buck. I would recommend at least 168 OZ/in but these tactic have like 300+. and you can run straight on a 7.4 lipo without a regulator.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXDKES&P=7
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Now if $59.99 is still too much for your budget, then you can go with these hitec 645's, they have about 133 oz/in which isn't bad, but should be plenty for basic maneuvers like loops, knife edge and all that at medium speeds.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXUZ89&P=ML
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Thank you that is in the budget and I think I will give them a try. Have you ever dealt with Redwing R/C?
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hoverlow44, Thanks, I think that I will try the tacticals from Tower.
Old 03-18-2014, 07:30 AM
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Yeah, they make some decent stuff. I particularly like the gassers 30cc-50cc and above
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Those look like they may do the job but for another 10.00 ea you can get some Savox 1258TG. I have used these myself on a 33% airplane and found them to be very good. great gear train, light, great centering and good holding power.

http://www.savoxusa.com/Savox_SC1258...avsc1258tg.htm
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Those Savox have about half the torque of the tactical and are more expensive. Yes they are probably a better servo in terms of where they are manufactured, but the tactic are actually pretty good for the price. In that care you can just get some Hitec 5645's and have more torque than the savox at about 20-25 bucks cheaper. Don't get me wrong, I love Savox, and specially the 1271SG, but if you are working on a budget.... then options are limited.
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Not having any experience with the Tactic servos I can't say how they would work and your 100% correct about the limited options when on a budget. That's exactly the reason why my 40% Extra has been sitting for 6 months. A recent move and having a daughter that is graduating HS in June ( not to mention Prom ) has me in a situation where I can't afford the servos that the airplane really needs to fly at it's potential. I'm happy to wait until I can get what I want. IMO I wouldn't put 5645's in anything. That servo did not meet my expectations at all. I mentioned that specific Savox servo simply because I have used it and was very happy with it's performance and I consider it be the best option in that price range that I have hands on experience with.
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Yeah i wont argue with you about the Savox's performance and reliability. They are a heck of a servo. Im just curious as to why you dont like the hitec 5645's? Is it the speed? Sorry about the potential expenses you will be facing after your daughters HS graduation and all
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Redwing r/c sells the XQ servos, they are cheap, made in CHINA. I can not get Redwing to respond to any type of communicaton I send them. I read pro and con on the XQ's. Problem is if they go wrong you loose big money.
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Yeah i wont argue with you about the Savox's performance and reliability. They are a heck of a servo. Im just curious as to why you dont like the hitec 5645's? Is it the speed? Sorry about the potential expenses you will be facing after your daughters HS graduation and all
Im not a huge fan of them eather, I use HS645 in all my 50cc war birds and huge B25 but I have had a lot of issues with the HS 5645 in a 50cc corsair for flaps they burned up on me twice, replaced them with Savox 1258TG with no othere change and its been flying for almost 2 years now with no issues.

Also, it was my falt, but I had one HS5645 on the rudder of my new 50cc GeeBee R3, was planning on going to a bigger servo when the $$$ alowed, but planed the first few maiden flights to be nice and easy. Well the freaken servo burnt out on me in a flat every day rudder turn, (as geebee r3 need rudder to turn due to wheel pants) and it froze at full deflection. I almost got it back to the runway, but about 20feet up from landing with good speed I decied to kill the motor, Bad deshion. As soon as I killed the motor and the prop stopped spinng it rolled right over and crashed.

Savox are great for the money yes there a little loud, but for anything I build now worth a lot of money, except war birds (HS645 are great for due to small throws) I use Savox even on my turbines.

It is crazy how old manuals require such low oz servos, but I think thats becouse thats really all that was around back then.

Exsample my Top Flite Gaint P51 ARF wich was one of the first TFG arf's only required 55oz servos per control serface, but the new ones P40-109 etc it reads around 100 oz per serface
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My first giant scale was a 33% Cap 232 with a 3W 70 twin, I had Airtronics nylon geared 75 oz servos on ailerons. Flew that airplane in IMAC for 2 years without problem. Wouldn't do that now though. The Hitec 5645 I tried was slow, developed slop quickly and always had poor centering. It was installed in a .45 size pylon airplane on elevator. Not very much load on it.
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Hmmmm i've had 5645's for about 5 years now and not a single plane with them has developed those issues. I have them in a 33% cap and the rest on 1.20 sized aerobatic planes, like a funtana and a yak 54. Maybe im just not pushing them hard enough. I dont wanna find out tho haah
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I think you can get used to a servo like the 5645, I still have them in a 25% plane. But I changed them out in a different plane and it was like finally getting connected to the plane and not fighting the mediocre centering of the 5645. It is not so much the power but the response and centering. http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...arehouse_.html I have a set of the 9150s (Turnigy-Power HD the same servo) and they are performing well for a decent price. They aren't $100 Savoxes but are good for a budget build in my book. Probably getting close to 100 flights on these, and holding up with very little slop in the gears.
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Those tactics tsx65s I had ordered back in november of last year from tower hobbies and the backorder status said January... I'm still waiting...

just an FYI if you need them soon you'll need to find an alternative.
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I would not hesitate to use XQ servos. I have not found any negative feedback in the last year. Several folks I know use them and beat the heck out of them!! My next build will use 4020's. I sent Redwing an email this morning and got two back by noon. They usually are know for great response.

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