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Old 01-29-2004, 12:30 PM
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Default WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE 70% EXTRA?

I remember a BIG 70% Extra or Edge that someone was building. Last time I saw it it was painted and ready to test fly. What ever happened to it? Did it fly well? Info and pics would be great.
Old 01-29-2004, 12:49 PM
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As I recall, It was a 70% Staudacher, and I haven't seen/heard anthing abt it in months.
Old 01-29-2004, 01:19 PM
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I saw it the 2002 TOC in Las Vegas and I have some pictures of it somehwere. It was pretty amazing to see but I think there were some insurance issues with regards to flying it. It would seem like a huge waste of time to build something that large (and expensive) and never see it fly. The fellow that built it did an amazing job and it turned out ot be very impressive.
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It was a Stauducher and I really don't think the AMA would let them fly it. I would just go into the desert and go for it...JMO

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Old 01-29-2004, 02:22 PM
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I would just go into the desert and go for it...
Me too!
Old 01-29-2004, 08:04 PM
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Default RE: WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE 70% EXTRA?

Same here.. had some $50,000+ into it from what I recall... not very nice if you crash
Old 01-29-2004, 09:11 PM
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It was buit and is owned by BOB SAWYER down in the TEXAS area....Last rumor I heard was that he is supposed to fly it this year.....
Old 01-30-2004, 02:41 AM
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I talked to Bob about this early last year and he mentioned they scheduled an outing in the desert, but later postponed the event to be rescheduled at a date later in the summer. Have not heard anything about the Staudacher since...
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Old 01-30-2004, 05:26 AM
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If I had the spot to safely fly it,(desert,etc) I certainly would give it a try..........[8D]
Old 01-30-2004, 11:09 AM
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Bonneville salt flats anyone.....
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So, do you think he had a hard time finding room for his radio and stuff??
Old 01-30-2004, 03:12 PM
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I wonder is some people would try to get away with a 99.9% scale model. No point really go out and get the real damned thing! But make a 99.9% out of a B52..............
Old 01-30-2004, 03:29 PM
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50000 is a lot of money, but no sense on just seeing it sit there. To me id go fly it wold probably do the best hovering and torque rolls ever if it has the power? 60hp is enough right?

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Old 02-17-2004, 05:27 PM
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hey does this guy have a web site, or is there a place where you can learn more about this plane. I would really like to know when and where he was going to fly this monster. Road trip anyone.
Old 02-17-2004, 11:19 PM
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I had this saved to my favorites. Best I could find back then about this plane!! http://www.bktsi.com/powerflite/staudacher.htm
Old 02-18-2004, 11:57 AM
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Default RE: WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE 70% EXTRA?

that picture is ausome....im with the rest of you....even tho there is 50 thousand into it id still fly it. what good is a grounded bird. john
Old 02-18-2004, 12:31 PM
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Thats what i said. Id fly it whenever possible. Better check over that bird good and have some nice powerflites in there!!!!!!!!!!!

Dan
Old 02-19-2004, 10:29 AM
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Default RE: WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE 70% EXTRA?

This is real interesting - as much for the technology & engine that went into it, as the airframe. I think UAV & UCAV Technology will advance the RC Sport like we never dreamed over the next decade. There's all manner of (UAV) software comin' out that can make "RC" flight safer. The declassified versions shouldn't be long in coming.....

IMAGINE - you taxi to the end of the runway and push a button on your transmitter - the aircraft computer locks in the coordinates (GPS) - any kind of problem, and it comes back home for a safe leanding!

[link=http://www.uavenginesltd.co.uk]UAV Engines Ltd.[/link]
Old 02-22-2004, 09:25 PM
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Default RE: WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE 70% EXTRA?

ORIGINAL: shortman

Same here.. had some $50,000+ into it from what I recall... not very nice if you crash

Not to start anything here, but no way that this airplane cost anything near $50,000.00. If you start paying out $50.00/hour for the design, and building time from somone, maybe but not as we modellers build airplane where we never calculate our time.

I have about 100 hours at this point on my 34% Edge and at $50.00/hour, then I have over $8,000.00 in time and material. You get the picture.

Roger
Old 02-22-2004, 09:39 PM
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34% is a little different from 70% dont you think? If you dont believe me, which I could very well be wrong too, i just distincly remember him talking about this plane saying he had 50-60,000 in it.

Think, a cowl for a 33% arf cost some 30-50$ EASY, how much would a 70% CUSTOM cowl cost, over $100 probably. Many things on his plane are custom made and I would have no trouble seeing how much else he has into it.
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First off..It was a 70% Staudaucher... I see some astute posters have noticed this nugget

Second..$100 for the cowl is gonna be a might low... by a couple grand.. This ain't a Stans cowl for a 70% Staud, it's one-off composite

Third...The guy runs a business that builds composite parts for AC.. I bet he knows what it cost...

Fourth.. The engine costs alone are a pretty good Chunk of the entire cost of Rogers plane..

Fifth..just a few Links to the various websites with details of this plane will show that it's not just whipped up from some scraps...

And all the people who dogged him over insurance, liability, how insane it was to build a 70% (99%, you get the idea) RC plane has about soured him on having a public test flight. Last I heard he was just gonna get a small support crew together and do it without ANY prying eyes from naysayers..
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Yeah, I was to lazy to go searching
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Default RE: WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE 70% EXTRA?

ORIGINAL: shortman

34% is a little different from 70% dont you think? If you dont believe me, which I could very well be wrong too, i just distincly remember him talking about this plane saying he had 50-60,000 in it.

Think, a cowl for a 33% arf cost some 30-50$ EASY, how much would a 70% CUSTOM cowl cost, over $100 probably. Many things on his plane are custom made and I would have no trouble seeing how much else he has into it.
Please understand, I am not comparing a 34% to a 70%. and what he says is what I am saying is probably including his time or someone else's time.

You can build a homebuilt aircraft for less then $25,000.00 with parts only.
So I repeat, it did not cost $50,000.00 in material. The engine is a known engine at about $4000.00 The servos are seikos at $189.00ea. Must I say more.

A large cowl is more expensive but not mega bucks..
The metaphore I mentioned about the 34% was to show you that we can have mega bucks if we all tally up our time. which we don't.
And that is where his $50,000.00 comes into play. Certainly not material.

Roger

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Old 02-23-2004, 12:19 AM
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Whup one up, and report back!
Old 02-23-2004, 12:40 AM
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Default RE: WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE 70% EXTRA?

Whenever I see that 70% I think of the receiver that must be fitted in it. Even with dual redundant receivers, I bet it's possible to forget where you fitted it in the fuse and lose it!

It somehow doesn't seem right that a plane that size should rely on a tiny little receiver to come between it and destruction.

-David C.


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