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10-13-2005, 06:13 AM
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RE: Extreme Flight 87" Yak 54 - Build & Fly
ORIGINAL: Josey Wales
Thanks guys..What about glue for the control horns? Anyone tried Gorilla Glue? I used that in the hinges and I like how it foams up..
Thanks guys..What about glue for the control horns? Anyone tried Gorilla Glue? I used that in the hinges and I like how it foams up..
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10-13-2005, 09:01 AM
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ORIGINAL: flat spin
Yes Basinbum, once again your intellect has allowed you to make a very astute observation which we all greatly appreciate. Give yourself a big pat on the head.
I have no doubt that pattern will continue when the shipment arrives be that 500 or a 1000
Yes Basinbum, once again your intellect has allowed you to make a very astute observation which we all greatly appreciate. Give yourself a big pat on the head.
I have no doubt that pattern will continue when the shipment arrives be that 500 or a 1000
Why do people seem compelled to defend EF with such fervor? I just don't understand that mentality. The supply issue is a real drag for everyone involved, on both sides, but certainly joking about it is ok too.
10-13-2005, 09:27 AM
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Thanks Bill,
That people defend EF and this thread is so long says a lot of the quality of the plane and the commitment of the owner. That they take a simple relevent comment and attack me just makes it that much funnier.
That people defend EF and this thread is so long says a lot of the quality of the plane and the commitment of the owner. That they take a simple relevent comment and attack me just makes it that much funnier.
10-13-2005, 10:02 AM
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Bill,
I am sure that if you have been part of this thread in its entirety you will see that Basinbum has not contributed in any positive/non-sacastic manner ever. You and many others have given real input and advise, help, criticism.... This is acceptable! Basinbum only says negative and berating comments towards EF and this plane. (probably cause he didn't get one)
Let's not forget that the EF design has sold plenty more planes, unfortunatley the $$$ has gone into the pockets of dishonest business owners.
I have flown my 87" Yak this year over 150 flights and I have nothing but good things to say about this plane and its company. I feel sorry for those that have to wait, but lest we forget that I waited over 3 years for an Extra and it still hasn't made it! Am I upset, not in the least, but I did get a YAK and boy am I glad. My advise......... GET ON THE LIST..........!
I am sure that if you have been part of this thread in its entirety you will see that Basinbum has not contributed in any positive/non-sacastic manner ever. You and many others have given real input and advise, help, criticism.... This is acceptable! Basinbum only says negative and berating comments towards EF and this plane. (probably cause he didn't get one)
Let's not forget that the EF design has sold plenty more planes, unfortunatley the $$$ has gone into the pockets of dishonest business owners.
I have flown my 87" Yak this year over 150 flights and I have nothing but good things to say about this plane and its company. I feel sorry for those that have to wait, but lest we forget that I waited over 3 years for an Extra and it still hasn't made it! Am I upset, not in the least, but I did get a YAK and boy am I glad. My advise......... GET ON THE LIST..........!
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RE: Extreme Flight 87" Yak 54 - Build & Fly
You know the score Basinbum as does anyone else who has been following this thread from the beginning.
And it doesn't really bother me either but if you want to go give yourself another big pat on the head if you think it does then please feel free.
And it doesn't really bother me either but if you want to go give yourself another big pat on the head if you think it does then please feel free.
10-13-2005, 10:09 AM
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RE: Extreme Flight 87" Yak 54 - Build & Fly
ORIGINAL: Ricmussman
Bill,
I am sure that if you have been part of this thread in its entirety you will see that Basinbum has not contributed in any positive/non-sacastic manner ever. You and many others have given real input and advise, help, criticism.... This is acceptable! Basinbum only says negative and berating comments towards EF and this plane. (probably cause he didn't get one)
Let's not forget that the EF design has sold plenty more planes, unfortunatley the $$$ has gone into the pockets of dishonest business owners.
I have flown my 87" Yak this year over 150 flights and I have nothing but good things to say about this plane and its company. I feel sorry for those that have to wait, but lest we forget that I waited over 3 years for an Extra and it still hasn't made it! Am I upset, not in the least, but I did get a YAK and boy am I glad. My advise......... GET ON THE LIST..........!
Bill,
I am sure that if you have been part of this thread in its entirety you will see that Basinbum has not contributed in any positive/non-sacastic manner ever. You and many others have given real input and advise, help, criticism.... This is acceptable! Basinbum only says negative and berating comments towards EF and this plane. (probably cause he didn't get one)
Let's not forget that the EF design has sold plenty more planes, unfortunatley the $$$ has gone into the pockets of dishonest business owners.
I have flown my 87" Yak this year over 150 flights and I have nothing but good things to say about this plane and its company. I feel sorry for those that have to wait, but lest we forget that I waited over 3 years for an Extra and it still hasn't made it! Am I upset, not in the least, but I did get a YAK and boy am I glad. My advise......... GET ON THE LIST..........!
Your points are well taken, and you're right, I don't know the history of most of the individuals here, but I do know the history of the plane and agree completely with your comments there....but that doesn't really matter in this situation. If drumbums' postings are a trend, then all you have to do is ignore the post, you don't attack the person. There's no justification for that, unless you want to do it in private, then go for it. Responding to posts that you think are intentionally trying to stir the pot will only escalate if you respond. I should know, I've taken the hook more than once.
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Bill,
As people have said "Us EFers are really loyal"
I'll have to agree with 'em, I am loyal to EF, maybe to a fault
As people have said "Us EFers are really loyal"
I'll have to agree with 'em, I am loyal to EF, maybe to a fault
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ORIGINAL: Ricmussman
Bill,
As people have said "Us EFers are really loyal"
I'll have to agree with 'em, I am loyal to EF, maybe to a fault
Bill,
As people have said "Us EFers are really loyal"
I'll have to agree with 'em, I am loyal to EF, maybe to a fault
Loyalty is great, and I admire that, but misplaced loyalty can be a fault...but I've seen no evidence you are that way, even if you suggested it.
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RE: Extreme Flight 87" Yak 54 - Build & Fly
Bill, if you go back on this thread and search for BasinBum post you will find the kind of posts that he has made here!
I dont want this thing to start all over again, I am telling you to search for his post for you to understand why flat spin reacted that way,
but any way, lets calm down!
I dont want this thing to start all over again, I am telling you to search for his post for you to understand why flat spin reacted that way,
but any way, lets calm down!
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RE: Extreme Flight 87" Yak 54 - Build & Fly
Jose,
I went back and looked myself...I posted three times over this 224 page thread. My posts were about the plane, asking to see pictures or just humorously poking fun at the obvious. For that I have been called names, insulted and just generally flamed.
I have a lot of interest in the 50cc class of planes and try to keep up with all the latest offerings and progress of the available models. Sorry if I havn't jumped on your bandwagon and that I tend to wait for the dust to settle on new products before I pony up my limited modeling cash.
I have followed about the intermitant stab problems with the first batch, waited with the rest of you for the two years before the first planes were shipped and have every right to post comments in a public forum about those things.
So you guys can continue to try and make this personal and act as those I've insulted your heritage or something but I'm just talking about toy airplanes. You should have a bigger problem with endless off topic drival about glues, scales and other crap that doesn't have top do with the plane.
So does anyone know what Chris is doing in China?
I went back and looked myself...I posted three times over this 224 page thread. My posts were about the plane, asking to see pictures or just humorously poking fun at the obvious. For that I have been called names, insulted and just generally flamed.
I have a lot of interest in the 50cc class of planes and try to keep up with all the latest offerings and progress of the available models. Sorry if I havn't jumped on your bandwagon and that I tend to wait for the dust to settle on new products before I pony up my limited modeling cash.
I have followed about the intermitant stab problems with the first batch, waited with the rest of you for the two years before the first planes were shipped and have every right to post comments in a public forum about those things.
So you guys can continue to try and make this personal and act as those I've insulted your heritage or something but I'm just talking about toy airplanes. You should have a bigger problem with endless off topic drival about glues, scales and other crap that doesn't have top do with the plane.
So does anyone know what Chris is doing in China?
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Hi coche,
>>Bill, if you go back on this thread and search for BasinBum post you will find the kind of posts that he has made here!
I have looked at his other posts, and no I don't agree with the negative ones, but they all haven't been that way. Let the negative ones go if they bug you. He certainly didn't post anything to justify a personal attack.
>>I dont want this thing to start all over again, I am telling you to search for his post for you to understand why flat spin reacted that way,
The last post he made was 7 months ago. You guys sure have long memories. It's not exactly like he's harassing you guys all the time. You can't control what people post, that's the moderator's job. If you think something is offense enough to be deleted, report it. Again, the best thing in a case like this is to just let it go( I speak from experience of not doing that [
] ). It can't "start all over again" unless you promote it by responding.
>>but any way, lets calm down!
I don't think any of us are too wound up here(I'm certainly not). It seems like a pretty civil discussion.
>>Bill, if you go back on this thread and search for BasinBum post you will find the kind of posts that he has made here!
I have looked at his other posts, and no I don't agree with the negative ones, but they all haven't been that way. Let the negative ones go if they bug you. He certainly didn't post anything to justify a personal attack.
>>I dont want this thing to start all over again, I am telling you to search for his post for you to understand why flat spin reacted that way,
The last post he made was 7 months ago. You guys sure have long memories. It's not exactly like he's harassing you guys all the time. You can't control what people post, that's the moderator's job. If you think something is offense enough to be deleted, report it. Again, the best thing in a case like this is to just let it go( I speak from experience of not doing that [
] ). It can't "start all over again" unless you promote it by responding. >>but any way, lets calm down!
I don't think any of us are too wound up here(I'm certainly not). It seems like a pretty civil discussion.
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So does anyone know what Chris is doing in China?
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RE: Extreme Flight 87" Yak 54 - Build & Fly
ORIGINAL: EXTREME FLIGHT
Well it's time to make the trip across the north pole to the land of ARFs once again. My father and I are leaving early Sunday morning for China. We will be over there for 2 weeks. We will try to light a fire under our manufacturer concerning the 87" Yaks. We are also scheduled to visit 4 other factories. I hope to return home on the 24th with some good news.
As Torqued-Up mentioned, we are in the process of starting our own factory in Malaysia. As you can imagine this is quite an undertaking and will require me to spend a lot of time in Malaysia over the next several months. But I believe this is the only way to accomplish what I set out to do in the first place: Provide the best performing, highest quality, ARF aerobatic aircraft available.
There will be no one in our offices during the 2 weeks we are in China. For this I apologize. However my father will man the helm during my exteneded stay in Malaysia. Please bear with us as we gear up to provide you, our valued customers, with an unlimited supply of the best ARF aircraft available.
Well it's time to make the trip across the north pole to the land of ARFs once again. My father and I are leaving early Sunday morning for China. We will be over there for 2 weeks. We will try to light a fire under our manufacturer concerning the 87" Yaks. We are also scheduled to visit 4 other factories. I hope to return home on the 24th with some good news.
As Torqued-Up mentioned, we are in the process of starting our own factory in Malaysia. As you can imagine this is quite an undertaking and will require me to spend a lot of time in Malaysia over the next several months. But I believe this is the only way to accomplish what I set out to do in the first place: Provide the best performing, highest quality, ARF aerobatic aircraft available.
There will be no one in our offices during the 2 weeks we are in China. For this I apologize. However my father will man the helm during my exteneded stay in Malaysia. Please bear with us as we gear up to provide you, our valued customers, with an unlimited supply of the best ARF aircraft available.
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Well I wish him success as always. I think the market is still wide open for this class of plane. The big two only have substandard offerings with the Patty and 260 both of which have only 1100 squares on the wing which contrary to what Mike Mc says just aint enough.
Lanier has just announced two planes that may even be too big for these engines, Aerotech is showing promise with their anouncement and QQ has delivered some planes as well. Chris' design is proven and his customer satisfaction has been evidenced by the support he get's here so if he can work out the manufacturing difficulties he should do very well indeed.
Chris may even want to introduce himself to the guys in the "Malaysian Hangar" thread in the Clubhouse as you never know what kind of local resources you might stumble across here on RCU.
Lanier has just announced two planes that may even be too big for these engines, Aerotech is showing promise with their anouncement and QQ has delivered some planes as well. Chris' design is proven and his customer satisfaction has been evidenced by the support he get's here so if he can work out the manufacturing difficulties he should do very well indeed.
Chris may even want to introduce himself to the guys in the "Malaysian Hangar" thread in the Clubhouse as you never know what kind of local resources you might stumble across here on RCU.
10-13-2005, 03:13 PM
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Well at least the thread is going again!
For the record I am in no way angry and never was and also in what world do we live where my comments are deemed harsh. Come on it was hardly a scathing attack.
Anyway Basinbum your comments in the past, some of which may have even been deleted i am not sure but also some of which exist on another thread also about this plane have always been a bit Snide a bit underhanded. However, having heard the nicest and most positive post i have seen from you perhaps they were misconcieved. Who knows, anyway lets put it behind us and i will give myself a pat on the head too.
Chris is looking at a Prototype of the 87 built by another firm. They did one but made some alterations which went against Chris's design for some unknown reason, but they reckon that it would be no problem to build them identical, so pray, wish whatever it is that you do that they are up to scratch and if so we may have some 87's on-board in the not too distant future. Fingers crossed. And rest assured, need it be said that if these thingsa aren't up to scratch they will not go into production.
There will no doubt be a lot more news on Chris's return which i am sure he will post here when he gets the chance.
For the record I am in no way angry and never was and also in what world do we live where my comments are deemed harsh. Come on it was hardly a scathing attack.
Anyway Basinbum your comments in the past, some of which may have even been deleted i am not sure but also some of which exist on another thread also about this plane have always been a bit Snide a bit underhanded. However, having heard the nicest and most positive post i have seen from you perhaps they were misconcieved. Who knows, anyway lets put it behind us and i will give myself a pat on the head too.
Chris is looking at a Prototype of the 87 built by another firm. They did one but made some alterations which went against Chris's design for some unknown reason, but they reckon that it would be no problem to build them identical, so pray, wish whatever it is that you do that they are up to scratch and if so we may have some 87's on-board in the not too distant future. Fingers crossed. And rest assured, need it be said that if these thingsa aren't up to scratch they will not go into production.
There will no doubt be a lot more news on Chris's return which i am sure he will post here when he gets the chance.
10-13-2005, 03:56 PM
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RE: Extreme Flight 87" Yak 54 - Build & Fly
ORIGINAL: BasinBum
You should have a bigger problem with endless off topic drival about glues, scales and other crap that doesn't have top do with the plane.
You should have a bigger problem with endless off topic drival about glues, scales and other crap that doesn't have top do with the plane.
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Not gonna happen, don't worry. I think for some reason the internals of the wing were changed and although it held up under Chris's testing he wasn't as confident in it. The other stuff was just minor. The key thing is to get a product out to everyone which is as close to if not identical to the original. If it ain't broke don't fix it. My only gripe with the Yak is i don't get to fly it enough plus i have just had DA number two back with the Crankpin problem. Still think this engine is the nuts though and the crankpin problem is 100% resolved now by all acounts so, pretty bullet proof really.
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I'm looking for a up date, on what's going on with the next shipment of Yak's. I was sitting on the fence to long for the first order, and got a email from Chris that I was being put on a list to contact when the shipment arrived. Does anybody know if that will be this year? Also is a deposit needed to hold one. It has been a long time since I heard anything about the second shipment. I have checked once in a while in the thread, but didn't see any dates. I under stand that the same company that makes QQ's Yak, makes EF's Yak.I also see that QQ is receiving his second order of 50 size Yaks at the end of October. Is Chris next in line? Thanks for your help with info. I have a 102" Yak from QQ, but would sure like a EF's Yak to put my DA50 and canister in. Thanks again guys for the help.
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RE: Extreme Flight 87" Yak 54 - Build & Fly
Rick,
As you know there are delivery issues with EF right now. Thats being addressed right now with Chris's trip to China and eventually to Malaysia.
Thats all I can tell you and I know it doesnt answer your "when" but thats all I know.
Hang tight, EF aint going anywhere.
As you know there are delivery issues with EF right now. Thats being addressed right now with Chris's trip to China and eventually to Malaysia.
Thats all I can tell you and I know it doesnt answer your "when" but thats all I know.
Hang tight, EF aint going anywhere.
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ORIGINAL: BasinBum
I think this thread has more pages than airplanes delivered.
I think this thread has more pages than airplanes delivered.
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I will stand on my order for two of em'. Who knows, my brother and I might do a choreographed routine and hit the circuit.
All I know is, If I ever need an RCU lawyer, can I get Bill Bryor to defend me? ..... Forgive me father, for I have sinned, it has been 11 months since I have never flown an Extreme Flight Yak.. forgive me father, it has been four months since I have not sparked my shiny new DA-50. Forgive me father It has been 11 months since my Hitec 5945 have digitized.
So here is my relevent question. I thought a couple of you guys were using the Hitec 5995 on their rudders. I had mine plugged into a receiver just the other day and found that when I went full left quickly in quick succession that the extreme left travel was not consistent. It always re-centered correctly and would go to full travel the same each time if I brought in full rudder at a moderate or slow pace. Right rudder was ok. The servo is off the shelf and I have no servo programmer. My Hitec Prism 7 was out to 125% throws at 60% expo. I would hate to wait over a year for an EF Yak only to have one questionable component bring me down.
Your help is appreciated.
All I know is, If I ever need an RCU lawyer, can I get Bill Bryor to defend me? ..... Forgive me father, for I have sinned, it has been 11 months since I have never flown an Extreme Flight Yak.. forgive me father, it has been four months since I have not sparked my shiny new DA-50. Forgive me father It has been 11 months since my Hitec 5945 have digitized.
So here is my relevent question. I thought a couple of you guys were using the Hitec 5995 on their rudders. I had mine plugged into a receiver just the other day and found that when I went full left quickly in quick succession that the extreme left travel was not consistent. It always re-centered correctly and would go to full travel the same each time if I brought in full rudder at a moderate or slow pace. Right rudder was ok. The servo is off the shelf and I have no servo programmer. My Hitec Prism 7 was out to 125% throws at 60% expo. I would hate to wait over a year for an EF Yak only to have one questionable component bring me down.
Your help is appreciated.
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I will stand on my order for two of em'. Who knows, my brother and I might do a choreographed routine and hit the circuit.
All I know is, If I ever need an RCU lawyer, can I get Bill Bryor to defend me? ..... Forgive me father, for I have sinned, it has been 11 months since I have never flown an Extreme Flight Yak.. forgive me father, it has been four months since I have not sparked my shiny new DA-50. Forgive me father It has been 11 months since my Hitec 5945 have digitized.
So here is my relevent question. I thought a couple of you guys were using the Hitec 5995 on their rudders. I had mine plugged into a receiver just the other day and found that when I went full left quickly in quick succession that the extreme left travel was not consistent. It always re-centered correctly and would go to full travel the same each time if I brought in full rudder at a moderate or slow pace. Right rudder was ok. The servo is off the shelf and I have no servo programmer. My Hitec Prism 7 was out to 125% throws at 60% expo. I would hate to wait over a year for an EF Yak only to have one questionable component bring me down.
Your help is appreciated.
I will stand on my order for two of em'. Who knows, my brother and I might do a choreographed routine and hit the circuit.
All I know is, If I ever need an RCU lawyer, can I get Bill Bryor to defend me? ..... Forgive me father, for I have sinned, it has been 11 months since I have never flown an Extreme Flight Yak.. forgive me father, it has been four months since I have not sparked my shiny new DA-50. Forgive me father It has been 11 months since my Hitec 5945 have digitized.
So here is my relevent question. I thought a couple of you guys were using the Hitec 5995 on their rudders. I had mine plugged into a receiver just the other day and found that when I went full left quickly in quick succession that the extreme left travel was not consistent. It always re-centered correctly and would go to full travel the same each time if I brought in full rudder at a moderate or slow pace. Right rudder was ok. The servo is off the shelf and I have no servo programmer. My Hitec Prism 7 was out to 125% throws at 60% expo. I would hate to wait over a year for an EF Yak only to have one questionable component bring me down.
Your help is appreciated.
John
