paulhenley

Hi all

Looking at buying one of the two to fit a DA-100 into, what preferences do people have between the two and why ?


Thanks all in advance



Henley

krayzc-RCU

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Sukhoi4Me

My thoughts and questions exactly Paul. I was also considering the WildHare Extra 300 100CC

yarom

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Do yourself a favor, check also the SD Models 35% Extra, the Pacific Planes 35% Extra and the Rich Models 35% Extra.

Between all of these, you might find a great deal, especially at this time of year... You might also find that they are very similar to the Aeroworks, in all aspects...


There is a nice thread on the H9 Extra with lots of information and it costs over $1K shipped.

I tried to attach a sheet I made while researching what my next 35% would be... Forgive me if it ends up messy. This place cannot upload an XLS file. I went with the Pacific Planes because they made me a great deal...

Aeroworks 260 QB SD HP Extra 260 H9 Sukhoi 26MM H9 Extra 260 PP Extra 260
Wing span 104" 95" 97" 105" 102"
Wing Area 1867 sq. in. 1612 sq. in. 1762 sq. in. 2003 sq. in. 1970 sq. in.
Fuselage length 85" 86" 91" 98" 85"
Weight 26 to 27 lbs 21 lbs 22 to 24lbs 27 to 30lbs 26.5 lbs
Engine 85cc to 100cc Gas 75cc to 85cc gas 60cc to 85cc gas 100cc to 116 cc gas 85cc to 100cc gas
Covering Ultracote Ultracote Ultracote Ultracote
Landing gear Aluminum ($80 option) Aluminum ($105) Aluminum Aluminum FG
Tubes Aluminum ($70 option) Aluminum ($60) Aluminum Aluminum CF
Pre-hinged yes no yes yes yes
Servos per wing 2 1 1 2 2
Servos per elevator 1 1 1 1 1
Cowl Ring - pre-mounted side bolts Ring - pre-mounted
Canopy Pre-mounted to hatch Unmounted Unmounted Unmounted Pre-mounted to hatch
Canister ready Yes Yes Yes yes
HW Standard SAE SAE SAE SAE mixed

Bonuses Baffling provided No tail gear Pilot Pilot Requires horn drilling
Throw meter 3 color schemes Wheels Wheels Baffling provided
Decals $85 saving with DA-85 CF tail CF tail CF tubes and tail

Price (shipping) $950 ($190) $629 ($120) $799 ($100) $999 ($100) $600 ($110)

rcaviator-RCU

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Price advantage goes to the H9. You can get a great deal through your local hobby shop and pay no shipping.

Just a thought...

camss69

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Ordered my H9 260 through the LHS, $999.95.

Comes with a pilot.

Weighs 26lbs. with the setup recommended in the manual, and standard mufflers on a DA100.

All the hardware is good.

Awesome flight performance.

It has some minor issues, but the thing is one of the best bargains out there and is unbelievable in 3d and IMAC.

Torqued-Up

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I flown them both... Do yourself a favor, go with the H9 260 if your choices are down to those two...

quist

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You can not go wrong with either plane. I use the aeroworks for a practice plane for IMAC. It flies the unlimitied sequence with ease. The snap and point rolls are great with this plane. Rolling circles are a smooth as any 40% plane.

My buddy has the H9, he has at least fifty flights on it. It also performs great. Today I was talking him through the Advanced sequence and it was all good, until he noticed the plane was out of trim.
He landed the plane and his right wing was broke. The main spar was broke out of all the ribs. He was lucky that he landed when he did. I found out that many pilots have had this happen.

bodywerks

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The H9 flies TOTALLY awesome - unbelievably light and cool-looking - but it has definite shortcomings. Structurally, it is flimsy: the fuse twists easily, the stab tube fits loosely, the cowl is flimsy, the wing alignment dowels develop play in the fuse slots, the airframe is pretty noisy for some reason, and the wings have had their share of problems, as quist pointed out, and as I have personally experienced - twice!
I have owned both. It is definitely hard to get over how well the H9 flies right out of the box and how light it is. But after experiencing quality issues and wing failures, and realizing that the Aeroworks can be built plenty light with a little effort and flies quite well also ( as good, in most aspects, but it takes a little more work), and that it is built to last (my QB is two years old and in better shape than my H9), and you have a tough decision to make.
I can also say that, while the H9 practically flies precision by itself, it gets bounced around more in gusty wind than the QB.
You really have to think about what it is you want in an ARF to make this choice...if you want strength, durability, quality, and great flight characteristics and a plane that will last several seasons, then go with the QB.
If you want killer performance all around and light weight - at the expense of structural soundness, lower quality, and a one/two-season plane, then it's the H9 for you.

smokin

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the h9 flies great with the da 85 and is LIGHT!!!!!

bodywerks

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I just had to post again that the H9 260 does fly great! When it comes o precision, I think it and I are telepathicly connected! Bottom line, its flight performance makes it a hard plane to not consider...

altavillan

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Pick the one who's fuselage sides look most like the real airplane. The extra has such nice lines its sad to see arfs of the plane with flat sides.

That being said, If it's for learning and fun flying who cares what it looks like because you want to fly it like you don't want to keep it long anyway.

Rockyaged

The Aeroworks is a quick build, if that is important to you.. Ailerons and Elevators
are already hinged. You'll have to glue in the rudder hinges. If you are going to
use the DA 100 (good choice), you'll find that the radio gear will need to go as far
forward as possible to gain a good CG for IMAC flying. I reccommend the HiTec
Titanium Geared servos for the control surfaces, if your radio supports them. The
hardware package that comes with the Aeroworks is a very good one. I'm quite
happy with mine. It also was flown in Unlimited IMAC competition.

Gerald

quist

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Is yours an older 260? I have heard the newer models come out nose heavy(which is great). I Have moved my rudder servo to the tail and the plane is still very nose heavy for flying sequences.

bodywerks

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Same here. My buddy has two of the Duralite li-mag batteries (8 ounces each!) back with the two rudder servos and he is still noseheavy. I was even able to get my BME-powered QB to CG without dead weight. Also, the H9 is a fast-build plane, too - prehinged AND gap-sealed, and you don't have to glue the rudder hinges.

tailskid

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Ours came out at 28 lbs 4 oz w/ 3W 100 and cans - and is slightly nose heavy (about 1/4" ahead of the recommended location).

Funcat

Here are some Picture of the Hanger 9 35% Extra 260 ARF DA 100CC
Pilot: Dave Scott
Location: Fond du Lac. WI
Date 06/21-2008

Slide show
[link=http://www.fdlaa.com/2008/Slideshow/DS/]Slideshow[/link]

Hanger 9 35% Extra 260 ARF
[link=http://www.fdlaa.com]fdlaa.com[/link]

mflander

Interested conversation.

What are the differences you can see between precision on them BW? What makes the h9 better at it? What type of work do you have to do to the AW to get it to fly it as well?

bodywerks

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Snaps are the biggest thing. Right out of the box, with the manufacturer recommended throws, the H9 snaps crisper and stays on heading better. The QB seems to need some finagling with the elevator during the snap to keep it from ending off track.
As set per the manufacturer's recommendation, the H9 rolls on a wire with the recommended differential. The QB recommended throws have no differential but the plane needs some. Getting it right takes time.
Coupling, for regular knife edge, is the same on both planes, darn near. But as you approach high-alpha, the QB seems to be a little more squirrelly.
The other thing is that the extra is slightly smaller and about 1-2 pounds heavier, so you mayhave to put the QB on a diet to get it in the 26-27 pound range (although it flies fine at 28 pounds - just a little lower on power).
In all fairness, I owned and flew the QB over 2 years ago and never competed with it. My flying style and discipline has changed since then, so what I want from a plane has changed,too. I also parked the H9 for IMAC in favor of a QB 42% 260. Obviously, bigger flies better, but it shows that I still love the Aeroworks Extra design.

gregman50

Hey BW- I talked with Rocco today and took your advise from this morning (luv2flyguy on FG) I'm going with the 260 QB/DA-100 new version. I'm looking for the plane to last more than one season, so I'm going with quality, durability and short time to build. I think I will be happy with the plane, I have two AW planes already, a 50cc and a 75cc Yak, great flying planes. Thanks again

bodywerks

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No problem. You made a good choice. Be sure to post some pics, etc.