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Flyin', he is talking about the 9100 receiver, which is kinda like a power system in itself.
I didn't even know they were available yet (I should know, as I have one on special order and haven't received a call yet).
I am pretty sure it uses the power off of both batteries, unless the voltage difference between the two ends up being too great, In this case, it will only draw power off the higher voltage until they both equalize again.
The only shortcoming of this receiver is that there is only one port per channel, so you are limited as to the current available to the servos unless you do some modifications (which I won't get into). Still, it completele seperates the power to the receiver from the power to the servos, so you stand less chance of a voltage reset - the only limitation will be the batteries thenselves and their assosiated wiring/connectors.
I didn't even know they were available yet (I should know, as I have one on special order and haven't received a call yet).
I am pretty sure it uses the power off of both batteries, unless the voltage difference between the two ends up being too great, In this case, it will only draw power off the higher voltage until they both equalize again.
The only shortcoming of this receiver is that there is only one port per channel, so you are limited as to the current available to the servos unless you do some modifications (which I won't get into). Still, it completele seperates the power to the receiver from the power to the servos, so you stand less chance of a voltage reset - the only limitation will be the batteries thenselves and their assosiated wiring/connectors.
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RE: AR9100
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I didn't even know they were available yet (I should know, as I have one on special order and haven't received a call yet).
I didn't even know they were available yet (I should know, as I have one on special order and haven't received a call yet).
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Flyin', he is talking about the 9100 receiver, which is kinda like a power system in itself.
I didn't even know they were available yet (I should know, as I have one on special order and haven't received a call yet).
I am pretty sure it uses the power off of both batteries, unless the voltage difference between the two ends up being too great, In this case, it will only draw power off the higher voltage until they both equalize again.
The only shortcoming of this receiver is that there is only one port per channel, so you are limited as to the current available to the servos unless you do some modifications (which I won't get into). Still, it completele seperates the power to the receiver from the power to the servos, so you stand less chance of a voltage reset - the only limitation will be the batteries thenselves and their assosiated wiring/connectors.
Flyin', he is talking about the 9100 receiver, which is kinda like a power system in itself.
I didn't even know they were available yet (I should know, as I have one on special order and haven't received a call yet).
I am pretty sure it uses the power off of both batteries, unless the voltage difference between the two ends up being too great, In this case, it will only draw power off the higher voltage until they both equalize again.
The only shortcoming of this receiver is that there is only one port per channel, so you are limited as to the current available to the servos unless you do some modifications (which I won't get into). Still, it completele seperates the power to the receiver from the power to the servos, so you stand less chance of a voltage reset - the only limitation will be the batteries thenselves and their assosiated wiring/connectors.
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RE: AR9100
Since it's 9 channels, I was thinking in a 35 percent plane of just assinging two channels to each wing with programable servos and using 1 big servo on the tail. If I then use a single a123 battery(plenty of power) and recharge every 2 or 3 flights(it only takes about 15 min), the weight of this system could be 8 to 9 oz. and there would by no need for multiple ports per single channel and no chance of brownout? On a 40% or greater couldn't we just use 2 recievers and forget all power boxes, dual swithes, voltage regulaters and such? this really has me thinking, and dreaming of a super light weight airplane. Wouldn't this make a much more reliable system? Sorry just thinking outloud.
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Hey Ethanol, I think you are on to something! I can see a day very soon that this type of receiver and 123 batteries are the norm, say in a year or two...
I still don't like charging at the field even though I have an Ion Cube and that is why I like LiIon at least for now... but what is an extra reg or two if a lot of the other stuff is gone??
I still don't like charging at the field even though I have an Ion Cube and that is why I like LiIon at least for now... but what is an extra reg or two if a lot of the other stuff is gone??
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RE: AR9100
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I still don't like charging at the field even though I have an Ion Cube and that is why I like LiIon at least for now... but what is an extra reg or two if a lot of the other stuff is gone??
I still don't like charging at the field even though I have an Ion Cube and that is why I like LiIon at least for now... but what is an extra reg or two if a lot of the other stuff is gone??
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RE: AR9100
On my 35% I'm thinking of running a single 2300 mah A123 battery with dual output power leads into dual Deans Ultra pull plug switches and then into the dual Deans connectors power leads that come on the AR9100. To be controlled by X9303. Should be simple, clean and effective.
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RE: AR9100
It may be possible to even run the ignition off of the same battery, but I think I'll let a few guinea pigs try this first. Aerosheldon, I think you are right about this being the future, just wait it wont be long and ignition manufactures will make their stuff compatible with a123 batteries(da and 3w already are). I thought it would be neat to put the charging jack next to the switch and charge and bind the system with ease. Clean, simple,reliable, lightweight.
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RE: AR9100
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On my 35% I'm thinking of running a single 2300 mah A123 battery with dual output power leads into dual Deans Ultra pull plug switches and then into the dual Deans connectors power leads that come on the AR9100. To be controlled by X9303. Should be simple, clean and effective.
On my 35% I'm thinking of running a single 2300 mah A123 battery with dual output power leads into dual Deans Ultra pull plug switches and then into the dual Deans connectors power leads that come on the AR9100. To be controlled by X9303. Should be simple, clean and effective.
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RE: AR9100
Don't plan to wire my own pack, but adding a charge jack to the leads will be simple. Will a Ernst jack handle the amp load the charger willl be pushing? Oh, and you're right, the AR9100 comes with a soft switch that defaults to on if there's a failure, ... but seems like I remember reading that there is a small constant flow thats moving from battery to RX even when switch is in the off position. I think I read that you would need to disconnect the battery if you plan on not using it for more than a couple days to keep the batttery from over discharging and damaging itself. Thats whey I thought about the Deans Arming switches ... so that once that push-pull key is removed there's no way the battery could over drain itself.
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RE: AR9100
The stock connectors can handle 4A no problem..Dont know what the max is for them. The soft switch does use a little power when off but according to Horizon its very minimal. I think Danny said its was less than 1ma.
BTW--whats a Deans arming switch ?
BTW--whats a Deans arming switch ?
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RE: AR9100
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but what is an extra reg or two if a lot of the other stuff is gone??
but what is an extra reg or two if a lot of the other stuff is gone??
Already switched to A123, so no regs in my future ever again...
Plus, charge time... It used to really tick me off that it took over 2 hours to recharge my Fromeco batts... I can now recharge in 20 minutes...
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RE: AR9100
Check this link. Scroll down mid way and see the Arming Switch. It completely disconnects the battery and Rx with a plugt in key.
http://www.maxxprod.com/mpi/mpi-21.html
http://www.maxxprod.com/mpi/mpi-21.html
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Check this link. Scroll down mid way and see the Arming Switch. It completely disconnects the battery and Rx with a plugt in key.
http://www.maxxprod.com/mpi/mpi-21.html
Check this link. Scroll down mid way and see the Arming Switch. It completely disconnects the battery and Rx with a plugt in key.
http://www.maxxprod.com/mpi/mpi-21.html
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RE: AR9100
Did you not read the explanation just before your post? The soft switch that comes with the 9100 still allows a small amount of current to flow even when its in the off position. Its been said if you don't fly often enough this small drain could pull your battery down to an overdrained condition which is bad for A123's and could ruin your battery. The sure way to avoid this is to disconnect your battery from the RX. Just turning off the soft switch won't stop the small current flow, but if you substitute that mechanical switch with the Arming plug, you can effectively cutoff/disconnect the battery without ever having to go inside the fuselage by simply pulling the "key". Sure the included soft switch defaults to the "on" position forsaftey reasons, but the arming switch is almost like not having a switch at all .. and simply connecting the batery straight to the RX. Now thats .... eliminating a potential failure point, and safe guarding your battery investment too! ... provided you simply pull the plug before storage.
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RE: AR9100
Hey, just another way of skinning the cat. One could certainly just use the supplied soft switch, and just make sure that the battery is always topped off before any lengthy storage. Hypothetically speaking however, ... if you have a 2300 mah pack, and you fly 1700mah out of the pack one day, then go home without topping it back off, and life , weather or whatever .... keeps you from flying for three weekends in a row, ... you may not have a battery by then. 2300mah pack - 1700mah of flying - 504mah discharge through the soft switch (1mah x 24 hrs per day x 21 days/3 weeks= 504) .... leaves just 96mah, which most likely would be that overdrained range that is said to ruin a A123 pack. ... I may have this all wrong, and don't mind learning from someone who knows more about this stuff. Just trying to learn like everyone else.
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RE: AR9100
Just in case you do run your A123's all the way down they can tolerate it. Just nurse them with 50 mAh until they reach 2v per cell and then charge as you normally would.
We have a heli guy at the club that ran this test on purpose, multiple times.
We have a heli guy at the club that ran this test on purpose, multiple times.
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My plan was to eliminate all switches and run two small 123A packs or one with dual leads to the receiver. I also am not putting regulators in my big birds. When you get to the field plug the batts in put the canopy on. Good to go. You don't have to unplug them until you go home since the RX draws almost nothing. I was also planning on putting an Ernst jack on the outside of the plane. Would let you check voltage and charge with the canopy on.
Could be 1 problem...
Will the 9100 tolerate a charger attached to the battery while still plugged into the RX? If the softswitch actually disconnects power to the RX it should be fine, but I don't know the details on it.
Could be 1 problem...
Will the 9100 tolerate a charger attached to the battery while still plugged into the RX? If the softswitch actually disconnects power to the RX it should be fine, but I don't know the details on it.