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Old 06-16-2003, 11:41 PM
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I am looking to build my first big airplane. I want to use a converted ryobi 31cc. Need something simple and will fly like a trainer. New to the form. Looks like a wealth of information here. Hope to find many suggestions and good advice.
Old 06-17-2003, 08:06 PM
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There are so many options out there that is hard to recommend a plane without knowing the specifics. Decide on size, construction, type of wing (foam ?) and ARF, ARC, etc. So see there are endless options available to you. Extra 300 is a good plane to start with.
Old 06-17-2003, 08:55 PM
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How about a 1/3 scale SpaceWalker? I don't have one but I hear Sig makes a very nice kit.
Old 06-17-2003, 09:42 PM
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The Columbo Anderson line of Extra 300l kits are VERY nice and go together PAINFULLY easy. All the parts are beautifully laser cut, I am in the process of building a 38% CA Extra 300l, and I am VERY impressed at the ease and quality of this kit.

They are available in 24% (1/4) , 27% , 31%, 34% , and 38%.

available from Planes plus, www.planesplus.com

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Old 06-17-2003, 10:13 PM
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I was in the same boat as you about a month ago (wanted to build and fly my first big plane). I wound up going with the CA 27% Extra 330L and its awesome, from the looks of other posts it'll will fly like a champ too. I'm putting a 50cc in mine, some people went with a 40cc, for a 31cc I imagine you'll want the 24%.
Old 06-17-2003, 10:57 PM
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Come on, guys. I thought firewalker said he wanted something simple that would "fly like a trainer". Believe me, I love an Extra, Cap, Edge, etc., but none of them fly like a trainer. All my aerobatic birds fly well, but none of them fly like trainers. Sounds to me like he needs something slow and forgiving. How about some suggestions for some planes that have a light wing loading, flat-bottomed airfoil, and good slow speed flight characteristics. I'd like to make some suggestions, but I was flying aerobatic planes for years before I ever flew giant scale, so I'm not really all that familiar with giant scale trainer types. Good luck Firewalker. If you already fly smaller planes, you're gonna love how smooth the bigger ones fly. If not, be sure to get plenty of help from an experienced flier starting out.
Old 06-17-2003, 11:15 PM
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Build a piper cub? Maybe from plans?
Old 06-17-2003, 11:38 PM
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Hrm, why would you want to buy and build a big trainer plane? My first acrobatic plane was a 36" electric Cap 232, then I tried a 50" Thunder Tiger stick (pretty trainer like, not acro) and now I'm building the 27% CA Extra (there were some foamy trainers before the cap). Once you've flown a trainer I don't see any point in going back, the 27% is a big plane and will fly very stable _and_ has a very low wing-loading so it should float to the ground like a dream. It seems like if you put it on very low throws with plenty of expo (which you do on trainers) and squinted while you flew it, it would be like you were flying a trainer. But, when you're ready, a few flicks of transmitter buttons and you've got a bad **** of a plane. There's nothing like spending 100's of dollars and hours of your time to build a plane you're bored with after 2 hours of flight
Old 06-18-2003, 12:03 AM
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Yes and with the CA Extra he will also be able to fly 3d, and even fly IMAC if he wanted to.

Josh
Old 06-18-2003, 12:04 AM
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How about a Dynaflight Chipmunk. A friend built one with the Ryobi 31. he has not test flown it yet but it looks like it will be fine.
Old 06-18-2003, 08:08 PM
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Thanks
The reason I thought going with a trainer style is the characteristics of a big plane would be different than a 40-60 size. Getting use to a big bird I figure would be quit different. Maybe not a total trainer but a top wing semi symmetrical. I'm not up to the cap or extra flying stage yet. Like something in the 110 Rascal style. 7 ft. wing 14-15 inches + wide. Old telemaster, Robin hood type.
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You would be suprised at how docile Extra's, Cap's , Edge's, etc , can be. As long as they are a decent weight, preferably light, and have properly set up throws, they can be very docile, and land at a crawl, and I mean, Crrrraaawwwlll .
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Yah, the bigger the plane, the more controllable and easy to manuver it is. 40-60 size trainers make sense, they're small and you have to learn how to fight against the wind and other elements.
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Firewalker,

Have you looked at the Stinger 120? Seems like it would fit your requirements perfectly. Available in both kit and ARF. With reduced throws it flys better than most trainers. Fly it that way with the 80" wing till you are getting bored, then cut the wing down to 72" increase the throws and have a ball.

RJ
Old 06-19-2003, 03:41 AM
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firewalker
check out the giant spad site
very cheap planes and dont fly bad at all.

http://spads.mattclement.com
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Default First big plane

He also said he was using a Ryobi. Extra? How about a Decathalon? The Dynaflight should handle the weight of the Ryobi and fly nicely.
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How about a giant Tharpe Flyin' King? Would go together quickly and when you get tired of it, you could rent rides in it to the neighborhood kids.

Rein
Old 06-19-2003, 08:34 PM
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I built a Dynaflite PT-19 last year. Mine is way over powered with a US 41 CC on it, but what a blast. Lands like a trainer, flys like a trainer, till I open it up and then it will do some amazing stuff. I can get it to flip end over end 3 to 4 times. Slips are scale, loops are huge with snap at the top if I want. What a blast.
Old 04-12-2004, 05:44 AM
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Firewalker,
I was just wondering what airplane you eventually went with for your Ryobi 31cc conversion? I'm in exactly the same position now.

Cheers,
Steve
Old 04-12-2004, 06:26 AM
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Lanier Stinger, or Sig Rascal, would be good. I have both LOVE them. The Stinger will fly and land like a trainer but will and can do whatever you ask on it. The Rascal is just plane fun. get it ? "plane" fun. in lou if plain.
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Old 04-12-2004, 12:21 PM
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You guys should try a Ryan's Rebel. RCM December 2002. It was designed around the Ryobi.

Ryan
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Hi Ryan,
LOL I just e-mailed you I didn't realise it was actually designed for the Ryobi 31cc - well, that's one question answered [sm=thumbup.gif]

Over here in England the big US kits are either unavailable or just too expensive! For example the UK Sig importer doesn't even list a 4*120 and the 4*60 is $190 (£105)!!! Also, there are very few 'home grown' offerings... it seems not many Limeys go above 60size except the Scale Warbird flyers (and that's where I want to go...).

Looks like an order to RCM then... I just have to work out how to make a two-piece wing [sm=spinnyeyes.gif]

Thanks guys,
Steve
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Man...you gotta build a Big Pink...(same one as in my avitar)

www.crazyherb.com

I love it....and has a ryobi 31cc ...
There's a 6 minute video on the page as well....with smoke...

Flies like a trainer....then crank up the rates for aerobatic...

CrazyHerb
Old 04-12-2004, 09:06 PM
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I have the Ryobi on a Dynaflight Flybaby(84 inch). I used the C&H ignition conversion kit and the Jag conversion kit to mount the engine. It pulls it well but not enough to be aerobatic, which it's not anyway. Works good for me and fun to fly.
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Hey, Herb!
Love the Big Pink!!!! Any chance of a Giant foamy Seamaster type on the horizon?? Man, oh man, I'd love to see one!

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