Building the Hangar 9 Cessna 182 Skylane
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Been reading this thread for about three years. Finally decided to order my Skylane. Was surprized Horizon Hobby still carries it.
Will be using a Saito 1.8 for power. I have these Saito 1.8's currently running in two different aircraft. Very dependable.
Will also be using an ElectroDynamic's on-board glow system. Have this system on six different aircraft. Also very dependable. Allows for a very low, scale-like idle speed.
Hope it fly's as good as my six year old Hanger 9 Taylorcraft !
Joe
Will be using a Saito 1.8 for power. I have these Saito 1.8's currently running in two different aircraft. Very dependable.
Will also be using an ElectroDynamic's on-board glow system. Have this system on six different aircraft. Also very dependable. Allows for a very low, scale-like idle speed.
Hope it fly's as good as my six year old Hanger 9 Taylorcraft !
Joe
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Yakflyer,
I have't gotten time to try your half flap takeoffs yet with my C-182. Been too busy flying other aircraft.
But for your information what you are using for a landing flap (1 to 1.5") is what I use for half flap. For landing the trailing edge of my flap is down 3". This setting really slows her down on final and you can make a CLOSE cross wind approch (just off the end of the runway) and on turnning final drop full flaps (3") and watch her slow down with the nose down. I usually have to add a little power on the flair. Just don't try this with a wind over 20 MPH...take's plenty of power to pull her up to the runway.
It has been too hot here to fly. 100 and 80 to 85 humidity. The wind goes down in the evening and is not nice to be at the field then.
I have't gotten time to try your half flap takeoffs yet with my C-182. Been too busy flying other aircraft.
But for your information what you are using for a landing flap (1 to 1.5") is what I use for half flap. For landing the trailing edge of my flap is down 3". This setting really slows her down on final and you can make a CLOSE cross wind approch (just off the end of the runway) and on turnning final drop full flaps (3") and watch her slow down with the nose down. I usually have to add a little power on the flair. Just don't try this with a wind over 20 MPH...take's plenty of power to pull her up to the runway.
It has been too hot here to fly. 100 and 80 to 85 humidity. The wind goes down in the evening and is not nice to be at the field then.
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Hmmmmm. I flew her yesterday and had a blast! I love landing her the most!
I did try to land with flaps (about 1") and she pitched down as you would expect and had to use about all the elevator to keep her stable (no wind when I tried).
I guess I have to keep playing with it until if find a comfortable zone to work in. On thing I do not like is how limited the elevator throws max out at, even with a longer servo arm and using the max setting on the control horn.
I mounted my camera yesterday while flying and recorded some video. Haven't checked it out yet to see how it came out.
Thanks for the tips.
Bill
Hmmmmm. I flew her yesterday and had a blast! I love landing her the most!
I did try to land with flaps (about 1") and she pitched down as you would expect and had to use about all the elevator to keep her stable (no wind when I tried).
I guess I have to keep playing with it until if find a comfortable zone to work in. On thing I do not like is how limited the elevator throws max out at, even with a longer servo arm and using the max setting on the control horn.
I mounted my camera yesterday while flying and recorded some video. Haven't checked it out yet to see how it came out.
Thanks for the tips.
Bill
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I will recieve my H9 Cessna in a couple of weeks and are planning a OS FT-160, and the Robart replacement nosegear. I'm situated in Norway and it's a little easyer to buy locally. And it costs half the price of the sierra one.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...dID=ROBC182HA9
Have anyone put floats on this gem yet? Anyone know if there is a kit around with the nescessary parts for mounting etc?
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...dID=ROBC182HA9
Have anyone put floats on this gem yet? Anyone know if there is a kit around with the nescessary parts for mounting etc?
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I meanwhile belive that robart nose-gear is a must - I'll get me one too - it's simply better and it looks great!
Also the lights-setup from
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Look at that - THAT is way cool! The set is: $245.00 (6W & (2)7W LL)
PICTURES:
http://www.aero-accessories.com/navl...nonphotos.html
http://www.aero-accessories.com/navpak/LL-Flyer.html
VIDEOS:
http://www.aero-accessories.com/navp...ghtvideos.html
INSTRUCTIONS:
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Absolutly great!
Also the lights-setup from
www.aero-accessories.com
www.meister-scale.com
World Miniature Warbird Assoc.
www.wmwa.org
4 Time Top Gun Champ.
TEAM JR - Horizon Hobby
Look at that - THAT is way cool! The set is: $245.00 (6W & (2)7W LL)
PICTURES:
http://www.aero-accessories.com/navl...nonphotos.html
http://www.aero-accessories.com/navpak/LL-Flyer.html
VIDEOS:
http://www.aero-accessories.com/navp...ghtvideos.html
INSTRUCTIONS:
http://www.aero-accessories.com/navp...structions.pdf
Absolutly great!
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Hi Guys,
This just my opinion on nose gears.
And I understand why Anderhav is going with a Robart because of where he lives.
I have seen both Sierra and Robart nose gears on this C-182 and I can tell you the Sierra is the best and is best looking and this plane need nose weight anyway and the Sierra helps in that department.
The Robart is still a better gear then the one that is in the kit.
This just my opinion on nose gears.
And I understand why Anderhav is going with a Robart because of where he lives.
I have seen both Sierra and Robart nose gears on this C-182 and I can tell you the Sierra is the best and is best looking and this plane need nose weight anyway and the Sierra helps in that department.
The Robart is still a better gear then the one that is in the kit.
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[quote]ORIGINAL: Volker001
I meanwhile belive that robart nose-gear is a must -
It is my "Personal" opinion that the Nose Gear Strut is "Unnecessary" , unless you Feel that maybe a problem landing on the mains ,or even "Flat"
I doubt it that you will touch down on the nose wheel, and if you do , the Original L.G. wire bending back will help you even more , the strut is "rigid" just up-dwn
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Hi Guys
I have been following this thread for some time now and just the other week decided to become one of the many modellers that
already own this fine model.
I have noticed through this thread that there seems to be a varied choice of engine for the model with some of you guys using 4 stroke, twin cylinder 160s to saito 180s.
I have to admit that I myself am still undecided on the power plant to fit to mine.
Our flying club secretary is none other than Alasdair Sutherland who writes the Aerodynamics Forum in the RC Model World mag and i'm sure i saw someone mention
about the fitting of floats to this model.
I will probably do this a bit further down the line with some help from Alasdair and will keep you guys posted on the outcome.
I know that from past experience with other models that when you fit floats to a model you really have to be at the top end of the engine scale for the model
so I was thinking along the lines of the Zenoah 38 for the Cessna 182 with the floats fitted.
I dare say that it will be a bit over-powered when flying from the field but thats what we have a throttle for.
Anyone have any views on this or has anyone fitted this engine to this model before.
Regards Stevie
I have been following this thread for some time now and just the other week decided to become one of the many modellers that
already own this fine model.
I have noticed through this thread that there seems to be a varied choice of engine for the model with some of you guys using 4 stroke, twin cylinder 160s to saito 180s.
I have to admit that I myself am still undecided on the power plant to fit to mine.
Our flying club secretary is none other than Alasdair Sutherland who writes the Aerodynamics Forum in the RC Model World mag and i'm sure i saw someone mention
about the fitting of floats to this model.
I will probably do this a bit further down the line with some help from Alasdair and will keep you guys posted on the outcome.
I know that from past experience with other models that when you fit floats to a model you really have to be at the top end of the engine scale for the model
so I was thinking along the lines of the Zenoah 38 for the Cessna 182 with the floats fitted.
I dare say that it will be a bit over-powered when flying from the field but thats what we have a throttle for.
Anyone have any views on this or has anyone fitted this engine to this model before.
Regards Stevie
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Your plan for your Cessna sounds really exciting! What an oppertunity to have someone of Mr. Sutherland's caliber to help you!
I personnally use the Zenoah G26 on my bird. I have been toying witht he idea of swaping it out and try the G-38. But honestly, with floats, the G-26 does a exceptional job, not to mention very dependable. With the additional power the G-38 will produce I think it might tempt me to stress the airframe a little too much. Lol.
But go for it if it feels right!
Keep us posted on your build (with pictures) if you would.
Hope you can video her maiden flight too?
Well, have fun and enjoy your project. I know I enjoy mine very much!
Matter of fact, flew her yesterday and made some really cool landings!
I personnally use the Zenoah G26 on my bird. I have been toying witht he idea of swaping it out and try the G-38. But honestly, with floats, the G-26 does a exceptional job, not to mention very dependable. With the additional power the G-38 will produce I think it might tempt me to stress the airframe a little too much. Lol.
But go for it if it feels right!
Keep us posted on your build (with pictures) if you would.
Hope you can video her maiden flight too?
Well, have fun and enjoy your project. I know I enjoy mine very much!
Matter of fact, flew her yesterday and made some really cool landings!
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I certainly will keep everyone posted on the build and flying of the model as I progress.
I'm sure that Alasdair will give me a hand to make up floats for it as he has all the neccessary equipment and jigs for cutting the foam out with the hot wire.
I had him help me make a set for my extra 300s and it was just awsome flying it from the lake and even taking off from the field when it was snowing.
unfortunatly the extra is no more as it was subjected to up elevator in the inverted part of a rolling circle and hit some trees lol
I just want to get into the large scale scene and thought that this would be a good place to start.
I have always loved the cessna as I see them take off and land every day as I stay close to prestwick Airport in Scotland.
Regards to All
Steve
I'm sure that Alasdair will give me a hand to make up floats for it as he has all the neccessary equipment and jigs for cutting the foam out with the hot wire.
I had him help me make a set for my extra 300s and it was just awsome flying it from the lake and even taking off from the field when it was snowing.
unfortunatly the extra is no more as it was subjected to up elevator in the inverted part of a rolling circle and hit some trees lol
I just want to get into the large scale scene and thought that this would be a good place to start.
I have always loved the cessna as I see them take off and land every day as I stay close to prestwick Airport in Scotland.
Regards to All
Steve
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My H9 Cessna are arriving in aprox one week. Here are a video of one flown in Norway: http://rc.andersh.com/html/videofile.php?VidUID=1360
Here is another video for you Cessna fans. This is a 3,85 meter wingspan, aprox 22 kg, custom made scale model: http://rc.andersh.com/html/videofile.php?VidUID=1361
Here's some detailed pictures of this model: http://forum.modellflynytt.no/showthread.php?t=14907
Here is another video for you Cessna fans. This is a 3,85 meter wingspan, aprox 22 kg, custom made scale model: http://rc.andersh.com/html/videofile.php?VidUID=1361
Here's some detailed pictures of this model: http://forum.modellflynytt.no/showthread.php?t=14907
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well if you feel a G38 is too much power, how am I go to feel with a ZDZ40 in the nose...yikes overpowered or what but I had th engine lying around and no plane to put it in, so into my H9 Cessna 182 it goes....still yet to fly it as I have some things to finish but looking forward to flying it! I went with the Sierra nose gear, made a pull pull linkage for the rudder and still fit it in the rear servo hatch area and had to custom fit a fuel tank because teh ZDZ has a rear mounted carb, also planning on a 3 bladed prop...shoudl fly good...at least I hope it does!
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Wow! Your Cessna probably will be capable of 2 inch take offs and unlimited verticals! lol. Love to see how it works out.
That ZDZ40 should be enough for a 3 bladed prop and probably then some!
I am interested in your pull/pull rudder configuration. I do not care much for the tiller arm myself. The wood expands and makes the control loose.
Can you post a few pictures? I really would appreciate it if you could.
Did you change the evelvator control too? If so, pictures would be nice.
I have been toying in my mind for a long time to convert to a pull/pull but have not been satisfied with my design just yet.
Thanks for your post!
Be sure to post some pictures of your finish build. I really enjoy looking at other peoples work and ideas.
That ZDZ40 should be enough for a 3 bladed prop and probably then some!
I am interested in your pull/pull rudder configuration. I do not care much for the tiller arm myself. The wood expands and makes the control loose.
Can you post a few pictures? I really would appreciate it if you could.
Did you change the evelvator control too? If so, pictures would be nice.
I have been toying in my mind for a long time to convert to a pull/pull but have not been satisfied with my design just yet.
Thanks for your post!
Be sure to post some pictures of your finish build. I really enjoy looking at other peoples work and ideas.
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After a very very long deliberation on what engine to put into this huge model
I opted for the Zenoah 26 as I believe that the 38 would be just too too much for this model.
Following discussions with A sutherland and other club members I feel that the wing area alone on this model
will make it just right with the 26 as it should be more to scale.
Also I don't like the idea of butchering that lovely cowl to fit a bigger engine.
I have ordered the said engine from Glens Models and should take delivery in the morning.
I would like to fit a 3 bladed prop to it but will wait and see how I get on with the standard 2 bladed one first.
I'll keep you guys posted on the build etc
Regards
Steve
I opted for the Zenoah 26 as I believe that the 38 would be just too too much for this model.
Following discussions with A sutherland and other club members I feel that the wing area alone on this model
will make it just right with the 26 as it should be more to scale.
Also I don't like the idea of butchering that lovely cowl to fit a bigger engine.
I have ordered the said engine from Glens Models and should take delivery in the morning.
I would like to fit a 3 bladed prop to it but will wait and see how I get on with the standard 2 bladed one first.
I'll keep you guys posted on the build etc
Regards
Steve
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I've been watching this thread while getting mine together, and posted a few times... Finally got mine done and the maiden flight was today. Needed one click of down, other than that all settings were perfect. Flew a total of three times. Set up with the CG and control throws exactly per the manual. Really nice and solid flying, and landing with the flaps is outstanding. Particulars: Saito 182 Twin with on-board glow and Keleo exhaust, Airtronics Stylus radio, PCM, mostly Hitec servos, 1950 nimh 5-cell battery, Sierra Precision nose gear, just over 18 pounds. You can see from the pictures I stripped off the Hangar 9 graphics, and replaced with different. I searched around on the net and found a style I liked. Eric at B and E Graphix cut the vinyl for me, and I'm very happy with the different look. Here are a few pictures taken right before the maiden this morning. There's also a look under the hood. Today was the first time for the Saito to run, and while it's still set pretty rich, was solid with plenty of power. It's all good!
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Very nice bird EdwardB. The pictures looked great!
Your cowling looks great too. That saito made a very nice and neat fit.
Thanks for sharing.
Your cowling looks great too. That saito made a very nice and neat fit.
Thanks for sharing.
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hi,
i am also building the h9- 182 ,but i wanted to be diferent. the cabin is not fiberglass its a plastic abs. i made several moulds from the plastic parts and made fiber glass parts i removed all the film covering on all the parts wing fuse etc. The fuse i removed and replaced all of the wood sheeting and glased it and installed all my new fiber glass cabin parts On all the control surfaces i made a mould to make the ribbid panels and then glued to surface i redid the way the ailerons were hinged buy making the aileron scale and hinging from the top of the wing and aileron i also using the evolution 26gt2. i installed it on a angle to fit it completly in the cowl . NOW I am at the point of installing ruddr and elevator and i have read this thread all the way thru but no referece to were the mod for the rudder install PLease let me know were to find this information. this is my first gasser ever i am mostly building jets but have always loved the 182. if you want to see pictures let me know how to post
Arden May
i am also building the h9- 182 ,but i wanted to be diferent. the cabin is not fiberglass its a plastic abs. i made several moulds from the plastic parts and made fiber glass parts i removed all the film covering on all the parts wing fuse etc. The fuse i removed and replaced all of the wood sheeting and glased it and installed all my new fiber glass cabin parts On all the control surfaces i made a mould to make the ribbid panels and then glued to surface i redid the way the ailerons were hinged buy making the aileron scale and hinging from the top of the wing and aileron i also using the evolution 26gt2. i installed it on a angle to fit it completly in the cowl . NOW I am at the point of installing ruddr and elevator and i have read this thread all the way thru but no referece to were the mod for the rudder install PLease let me know were to find this information. this is my first gasser ever i am mostly building jets but have always loved the 182. if you want to see pictures let me know how to post
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Very interesting mods you are working on. Yes, please post pictures.
I am looking forward to EdwardB's pictures of his pull-pull system too.
I am looking forward to EdwardB's pictures of his pull-pull system too.
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No rudder pull-pull pictures from me. I used the stock set-up. Sort of. Several of the posts on this thread recommended crossing over from the other side of the rudder servo arm than what is shown in the instructions. You have to cut a slot in the hatch cover post, but no big deal. This gives the pushrod better mechanical advantage on the very short rudder control arm. The other thing I did, which I think made the most difference, was to fashion a bearing out of 1/8 birch ply that the rudder pushrod goes through, and is glued to the bottom of the fin. This prevents the bottom of the rudder from moving around when the pushrod is actuated by the servo, and all motion is directed to the rudder. Mine centers up and moves pretty precisely. This isn't exactly a pattern or 3D plane anyway. The rudder is effective for the way this model should be flown, and the setup is fine without going to any further bother as far as I'm concerned.
Probably my biggest surprise (and a bit of a challenge) was the elevator control horn. The part provided literally broke in my hands as I was installing it. They had welded the flat metal horn to the wire interconnect, and the weld weakened the wire to the point that it broke right off with barely more than normal handling during installation. This would have destroyed the model had it broken in flight! I fashioned a new interconnect wire, and used a combination of wheel collars and silver solder to attach the control horn. It's not going anywhere, and I didn't weaken the wire.
Once completed, the internally mounted elevator and rudder pushrods, inside the tail cone and the rear fuse hatch, make a very nice and clean setup. The design is OK, but (as is sometimes the case with ARF's) the execution needed some help.
Probably my biggest surprise (and a bit of a challenge) was the elevator control horn. The part provided literally broke in my hands as I was installing it. They had welded the flat metal horn to the wire interconnect, and the weld weakened the wire to the point that it broke right off with barely more than normal handling during installation. This would have destroyed the model had it broken in flight! I fashioned a new interconnect wire, and used a combination of wheel collars and silver solder to attach the control horn. It's not going anywhere, and I didn't weaken the wire.
Once completed, the internally mounted elevator and rudder pushrods, inside the tail cone and the rear fuse hatch, make a very nice and clean setup. The design is OK, but (as is sometimes the case with ARF's) the execution needed some help.
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Nice to see this thread is still alive after about 4 1/2 years.
I found a pair of Cessna steering wheels (yokes) and also some semi-scale Cessna instruments at Hobby Lobby http://www.hobby-lobby.com/instruments.htm
The scale size of the yokes is pretty close and that include standoffs. The semi-scale instruments should look much better than the supplied instrument panel decal.
After scouring the net with no results, I need some help. I'm looking for a full-body, civilian, correct scale pilot for my Skylane. Hopefully with moveable arms and legs. Doesn't matter is it's male or female, or if it's painted or unpainted. Anybody found one ?
ElectroDynamics also carries a very bright (they claim) semi-scale exterior lighting system. From what I have found, the real Skylane has 7 different exterior lights. The trick for me will be trying to run the wires through the already built-up areas. I thought the exterior lamps would add a nice touch.
Joe
I found a pair of Cessna steering wheels (yokes) and also some semi-scale Cessna instruments at Hobby Lobby http://www.hobby-lobby.com/instruments.htm
The scale size of the yokes is pretty close and that include standoffs. The semi-scale instruments should look much better than the supplied instrument panel decal.
After scouring the net with no results, I need some help. I'm looking for a full-body, civilian, correct scale pilot for my Skylane. Hopefully with moveable arms and legs. Doesn't matter is it's male or female, or if it's painted or unpainted. Anybody found one ?
ElectroDynamics also carries a very bright (they claim) semi-scale exterior lighting system. From what I have found, the real Skylane has 7 different exterior lights. The trick for me will be trying to run the wires through the already built-up areas. I thought the exterior lamps would add a nice touch.
Joe