Zippi

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The S2 Sport Cub is bigger than 1/4 scale and it comes in around 19-20 lbs. I believe there was a little 3D in mind when this cub was thought of. From what Aeroworks has told me my DLE 55 should hover the cub with a fair pull out.

sj3cub

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Theirs only a 4 inch difference in the two airframes. 106 vs 110. What worries me is the 20 lb weight. Way too heavy for a good flying Cub IMO. A 3D Cub, no thanks.

AirplaneMan04

In my opinion, Aeroworks overpowers all of their products. Why a company would want to take such a beautiful scale
model, slow flyer that is, and turn it into a 3-D performer based on engine recommendation is beyond me.
Troy Built Models did that with their very shortly debuted Giant Scale P-40 Arf as well, cramming a DA-85 into it.
Then posting a video showing the model having "unlimited vertical" performance. Do you think a real P-40 was based
around unlimited vertical performance. Or even a full scale cub of any designation? I agree this cub should probably be
limited to a 30-40 cc gas engine or even a 1.20 four stroke. Then again,,, im more of a scale kind of flyer.
Zippi, maybe you can enter your new Sport Cub into a Pylon race? LOL

Zippi

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I don't know what to tell you dude. If you don't care for the plane I guess each to his own. You have to look at more than the wingspan of the plane. The physical size of the plane is much bigger than a 1/4 scale and I personally like a well built plane. The size of the plane, being well built, plus they had 3D in mind so there is the weight, and need for a 50cc engine.

BobH

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I think the ONLY reason do over power this plane is ...Marketing!.. why not just stick a turbin up its arse and make it faster too? LOL

Obviously Aero Works felt that having a 3D Cub would attract different (more) buyers than the normal civilian avation crowd. Since there doesn't seem to be a plethora of those building the kit here perhaps they made a mistake.

Scooter04

For what it's worth I am tuning in for your progress Zippi, and not the theories behind the planes design and marketing by Aeroworks.. Kind of odd to go into someones build thread and bash the plane, but that is the internet for you!!

Can't wait for the maiden to see what kind of flight characteristics it has. I know you have some other high wingers, so interested to see how this compares.

Keep the pictures coming . . .

BobH

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Hey I'm not bashing the plane at all. It may be wonderful who knows.. I'm just disagreeing with the concept of a 3D cub when there are so many better 3D subjects out there

roknHS

Zippi,

I gotta butt in here again........remember, I like your plane...........just can't see its worth a thousand bucks.

I just measured my 1/4 scale H9 cub..........your wing panels are 2 inches wider.......your rudder height is 1/2 inch taller..........your length is about 2 inches longer (this is subjective depending on the type of spinner).

Your beautiful new plane is about 2% larger than the H9 cub...........it's not "much bigger"
However, it does cost about 40% more.

Oh, I will tell you I have a Brison 40cc engine on mine and I don't consider it overpowered. I suppose I could hover it if I wanted.........I never have.

Zippi

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Far all you guys that don't like this plane and keep bashing it that's fine but I don't like the fact that you seem to be an expert on a plane you don't have, never seen, or flown before. Maybe I shouldn't have put the word 3D in there, that was me. Aerowork is not advertiseing this as a 3D plane. Yes the price is higher than some others but there is a reason for that and I'm not going into something that is already a known fact. You guys have said your piece so if you don't mind please move on to the threads that have planes you do like to fly.

BobH

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Ah.. a salient point about the 3D thing. That probably started some to respond in the negative. I for one don't know if Aeroworks overpowers their planes or not.. I see them at Toledo every year and they look to be excellent and pretty planes..In fact were I a 3D kinda guy I'd probably buy one of theirs.

As far as power is concerned one really doesn't need to own a particular model to know what power ranges are acceptable. But there are a LOT of Warbird guys who put HUGE engines in their warbirds and fly them at ballistic speeds!

If only the full sized planes were that fast!!

grgfraz

you get what you pay! for i will be ordering the red one in a few months i think this a very nice plane and i am putting it on floats so the extra power is needed. rknhs stick with the parkzone forums please

lear31A

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This is in fact a beautiful airplane! Especially if you take the time to learn a little about the real deal. I think you will have an awesome airplane when finished! Keep the pics coming.....
http://www.cubcrafters.com/sportcubs2

davidgeorge212

3 years ago I decided to build a cub but did not want to make it a j3. That is when I found this company and modeld my sig 1/5 scale cub after their sport cub s2. I made my own fiberglass cowling to make it look more like a super cub. So its kind of neat that a big company has now come out with an arf version of it. This is my cub below.

Zippi

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davidgeorge212,

Good looking cub. Nice work.

raptorflyr

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One other thing to mention is that they've designed the plane with an option to tow gliders. I know a lot of the die-hard glider guys like the power to tow with. Heck, we had a guy at our field with a plane not much larger than this cub with a DA-100. It was also set up to tow gliders. I think this airplane with a 1.20 would be hard pressed to tow anything.

Compare it with the 1/4 cubs all you want, but there's more pre-fabrication and it is larger. It also is a super-cub with flaps. I guess the bottom line is if you don't like it.. Don't buy one! I am more than happy with mine and I think it is worth the extra money.

I think we should move this thread back to talking about the build of the airframe rather than its value.

Zippi

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I couldn't agree more raptorflyr. Back to the cub build. I sat out in the garage tonight looking and thinking about the shims I added to the two bottom stand-offs and would it have that much of an effect on the flying charactorisics or not by loosing a little down thrust. I double checked all my measurements on the bock and the cross hairs on the firewall and it all looked good. I thought about going ahead and putting it together and flying it and see. If it did'nt fly to my liking I could change it. I ended up getting out the 30 min. epoxy and I filled the holes up on the firewall. I'll redrill the firewall tomorrow.

roknHS

Hope you glued a chunk of the right diameter hardwood dowel in the holes. Just filling them up with epoxy isn't the best repair idea.

Zippi

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I filled the holes with epoxy and on the back side of the firewall I epoxied two psc of 1/4" aircraft ply. I couldn't use one sheet. One piece for the top two holes and one piece for the bottom two.

mrbigg

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Looking good Zippi!

Zippi

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After re-drilling the holes in the firewall and trial fitting the engine I finally got it mounted where the spinner lines up really good and no added shims under the stand-offs. I painted the firewall with two coats of white primmer before installing the engine for the last time. I also got the EI mounted and the throttle servo and linkage all in place. I'm not sure yet if I can get the correct linkage hookup on the choke to use a servo. May have to use a manual setup.

lear31A

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Very nice and clean install!

MX240

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Looks nice....The only thing I would change is move the rudder servo inside the cabin where it belongs. I'am getting tired of filling servo holes companys make for a quick and dirty install. That includes the bottom of the wings.
The last hi-wing plane I put together I moved the rudder servo inside the cabin and the moved the elevator servo from the fuselage side to the bottom inside the stab.
I didn't need a thin servo....but now there are some really thin servos that will lay on their sides inside the stabs.
Another thing is I join the two elevators together for one servo.

capt1597

your work looks great as alwas! thanks for sharing , capt

steve2972

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Think i`ll order oner of these and do an electric conversion,hacker A60 14L on 10S,or mabe Hacker A80-10 on 10s but this would add a couple of pounds in weight.
With the 50cc gasser upfront does it balance on CG ok?

ta

Steve

Zippi

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MX240,

The rudder servo is inside the fuse in the cabin area. I have a pull-pull setup installed. Your right, a cleaner plane always looks better.

steve2972,

I'm not finished with the plane yet so I haven't checked the CG yet. I'm sure it will be fine as the prototype was setup with a DA 50.