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Old 12-02-2014, 08:14 AM
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I'm trying to think of something appropriate to say............
Old 12-02-2014, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BJ64
Would you have a link to the ones you mean?

I'd be interested in getting a set - a bloke can't have too many tools



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Too many to list. Anyway, shipping to Oz would kill you.

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BJ64 check out the AIS / Coles Tool Stores or The Man's Toy shop in Rockhampton or Townsville for the tools you are looking for. As for geting tools from the USA I use the Yard Store (not for a while though) and didn't find the cost to onerous. Mind you I was buying "specialist tools". There are a number of modelling tool suppliers here in OZ you just have to hunt them out.
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Originally Posted by blw
I'm trying to think of something appropriate to say............
No need to - you just did LoL

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Originally Posted by FNQFLYER
BJ64 check out the AIS / Coles Tool Stores or The Man's Toy shop in Rockhampton or Townsville for the tools you are looking for. As for geting tools from the USA I use the Yard Store (not for a while though) and didn't find the cost to onerous. Mind you I was buying "specialist tools". There are a number of modelling tool suppliers here in OZ you just have to hunt them out.
No probs - the small 'electronic' stuff I've already got.

I was interested more in the bigger 'thin walled' spanners that were being mentioned.

Will have a gander the the stores you mentioned.

Tools... tools.. gimme more tools

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I know there are a few "tools" around, though not here.
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Ain't dat da troof

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Old 12-04-2014, 05:57 AM
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As you can see I made the 12mm Saito wrench thinner by holding it against the side of an 8" grinding wheel. I was very careful not to let it get hot. The 17mm is a thin stamping, it came with my old 1.50.
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Old 12-04-2014, 03:05 PM
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Ah, Hobbsy, more from what we euphemistically called the "Primitive Tool Company". Used quite a few of theirs over the years.
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Yep, that's close, I call them the Fred Flintstone Tool Werks. As long as I don't try to fix a Farmall it'll do the job.
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Originally Posted by FNQFLYER
Guys, on exhausts, a mob here in OZ called Christian Traders does a good line in flexible exhausts to suit Saitos in particular. While I haven't used their product I have seen it in operation and it appears to perform to specification. Mind you I think the guys are trying to make millionaire status some time very soon with their pricing it is a good product and a way out of the troubles you guys appear to be having.
I just came across this site: http://www.mickreevesmodels.co.uk/~m...ccessories.htm

Might be of some use to those looking for 'flex pipe' ??

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I have half a dozen saitos
.72, .82, 1.00, 1.25
Great running engines
but the .82 is still vibrating pretty bad after a gallon of running
Do I still need to turn in the LS?
I read that once the LS is tuned (after break in) it will smooth out
can anyone give some advice?
or interested in a good deal on an .82?
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The best way to get the LS right on is to peak the high speed needle at absolute peak, leave there for now and then lean the LS needle 1/8th turn at a time. While doing this keep chasing the idle rpm downward as the idle speed improves. Go for 2,000 rpm but but fly it set at about 2,200. The, "vibration" you see is mostly tortional impulses caused by a light engine and powerful power pulses. A flexing mount or a not stiff enough fuse will contribute to this. A heavier prop helps bunches. More flywheel effect.
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The 82 doesn't have any reputation for vibrating, so it's got to be what Hobbsy said. Your LS came from factory set sloppy rich like the HS.

If you do like Dave says and set the HS to peak, give the engine about 1/3 throttle, and start leaning the LS needle. You will hear it begin to speed up like a HS needle would after a lot of turning, then it will begin to bog down some. Keep going another 1/2 turn or more from that point before you begin testing around to see how it idles, accelerates, etc.
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Thank you for thar
ill be home from vacation next weekend and give it a tdy
im hoping to use that engine
its on a 59" edge 540 about 5.5-6 lbs
What are suggestions on prop?
13x8?
14x6?
or a little less pitch?
the 14" is a little on the big side
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For an 82 I think the 13x8 would be the correct size, the 14 might be too much for it. I run a 13x8 on my 1.00.
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I have apc 13x7 and 14x5 N (narrow)
Either would probably be a good choice to keep under 10,000
i run 13x6 and 14x4W on .72
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Originally Posted by jb86
Thank you for thar
ill be home from vacation next weekend and give it a tdy
im hoping to use that engine
its on a 59" edge 540 about 5.5-6 lbs
What are suggestions on prop?
13x8?
14x6?
or a little less pitch?
the 14" is a little on the big side
jon
My FA-82 is on a 3D plane (Great Planes U-Can-Do 46) and is using a 14x6 with no problems. If you want your Edge 540 to be more than just pure 3D plane, then go with the 13x8. I am running 20% nitro though, not sure what you will use. With my setup, the 82 has no problems spinning that prop.
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By the way, I have another FA-91S on the way, bought it used and will install it on my Seagull Ultimate bipe 46. What prop should I use? I have used a 13x6 before. Would that be too small a prop for the 91? I am limited on diameter, 13 inch is the biggest I want to go. A 3-blade would be nice, but I would have to spend $$$ for a 3-blade spinner. So, I will stick to 2-blades, 13-inch props.

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Originally Posted by Hobbsy
As you can see I made the 12mm Saito wrench thinner by holding it against the side of an 8" grinding wheel. I was very careful not to let it get hot. The 17mm is a thin stamping, it came with my old 1.50.
Some time ago, I accidentally found a thin wrench that works on 4-stroke exhausts in my bicycle toolbox. I think that is another source of thin wrenches, bike tools.
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Originally Posted by hsukaria
Some time ago, I accidentally found a thin wrench that works on 4-stroke exhausts in my bicycle toolbox. I think that is another source of thin wrenches, bike tools.
Thin wrenches are a common tool for working on bikes. They are used to hold the bearing cone (on the wheel or fork bearings) steady while tightening the locking nut. They come in sizes that should work for exhaust. The keyword so search is "cone wrench" or "bearing wrench."

This link is for individual wrenches from 13-38mm - http://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-SCW-...=park+wrenches
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I found a bicycle wrench on ebay i got it yesterday it works prefect even with the cowl in tight spaces it can get right in where i need thanks for all the tips.
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W8YE told me about the Craftsman ignition tuning set of wrenches that come in a fold over pouch for standard and metric sizes. The set was under $30, and had about 10 wrenches for both standards. I use those for everything now, but they live in my r/c toolbox.
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General comment. On prop sizes what does the manufacturer say? Eg I use a 13,5 x 6.5 Bolly (carbon) on my YS 63, a 12.5 x 5.5 on my YS 53, a 14 x 8 APC (for Texaco on my Saito 65 and a 12 x6 Bolly on same engine (different fuel) for Duration (vertical drag racing) Most people under prop which causes all sorts of problems, mostly over revving and surprise over heating. I use a formula of twice prop diameter plus pitch to give a base and juggle the various props (off various sizes and pitches to get that same starting number) to get desired result an example would be a nominal 12 x 6 prop. The number would be 30. So I could use on that basis a 13 x 6 (or 5) as a set up or an 11x8 nas a step down. Expirement you might be surprised by the results.

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