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Old 04-16-2006, 07:18 PM
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FFourU,

A 50 flew it just right, didn't it?
Old 04-16-2006, 07:20 PM
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Loughbd, Thanks for the added info. This is my first cub other than a full size which I flew about 44 years ago!!! I have had to reduce prop sizes on some other planes when moving from the rocky mountains(Durango, Co) to Florida so I know that altitude has a huge affect of them. Will give the 65 a go and see what happens. How about it Bill?
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Thanks to all of you for the info. Will go ahead and tune up the 65 and see how it does.

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The 46's on the twin are LA's and it has been in the air 3 or 4 times: I purchased it in Ohio and the seller said that it took some eye and hand coordination to keep the speed down and the plane up!
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HDB: I also have a Goldberg Anniversary Cub. I made it even heavier by putting those very heavy scale Cub wheels and hubcaps on there that was made by Dubro or whoever 15 years ago. It flew fine on a Saito .45 because it is still in one piece.
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Well what do you know. Somebody agrees with me.
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KMOT,

I like the quip at the bottom of your entry! I turn 65 in a few days and feel like every day brings a new ache!! However, we have some pilots who are close to 90 and some over 90 who are still doing a great job so guess that there is hope?
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HDB: I also have a Goldberg Anniversary Cub. I made it even heavier by putting those very heavy scale Cub wheels and hubcaps on there that was made by Dubro or whoever 15 years ago. It flew fine on a Saito .45 because it is still in one piece.
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Old 04-16-2006, 07:37 PM
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Harvey:

What can I say? Go with the crowd - keep the FA-65 on the plane and enjoy it. There has to be a reason the builder put the smaller engine on it. Looks like he had good advice.

Bill.
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BILL, will try the 65 and surely keep the 80 ready to drop in if needed. I have a Dave Patrick Bipe for which the 80 was purchased so will see about that one.

Thanks again to all for the info. Chow time coming up!
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Will I have to make my own gaskets for the vintage open rocker Saito .30 or are there alternatives out there (current 30 or 40) that will fit?
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Tom:

I think the cam box gasket will fit from the later engines, but there are no head gaskets to be had. The later engines don't have head gaskets.

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Cool, Bill! The cam box is the only one I sweated over as it is very intricate to cut. The back cover is easy and so are any other 'round' gaskets.

Thanks!
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Cool, Bill! The cam box is the only one I sweated over as it is very intricate to cut. The back cover is easy and so are any other 'round' gaskets.

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Don't forget about using liquid gasket compound if all else fails. Just clean off what squeezes out when the parts are mated and no one will be any the wiser. <G>
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Sorry Ed. The cam box has to have a proper gasket. The thickness of the gasket sets the mesh depth for the timing gears, without a gasket they will bind.

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%^$# [AWAITING APPROVAL] !!!!!

Thi post is just to get the title back.

^&%# !!!

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Sorry Ed. The cam box has to have a proper gasket. The thickness of the gasket sets the mesh depth for the timing gears, without a gasket they will bind.

Bill.

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Oops!

That is nice to know. Thanks, Bill.
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Yeah, I knew that Bill. Thanks to you constantly drumming into our thick heads! BTW, what is the thickness of that gasket, do you have a measurement?

Ed, I have seen the insides of engines that have had silicone gasket material applied to it. Even though the outside may be scraped clean, you cannot scrape the inside. What I have seen (full size engines) is that the silicone not only gets squeezed out inside but in many cases breaks off and clogs things. Although that is mainly due to sloppy assembly practices. If you use a judicious amount with careful application the overage is not so bad. <G>
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Yeah, I knew that Bill. Thanks to you constantly drumming into our thick heads! BTW, what is the thickness of that gasket, do you have a measurement?

Ed, I have seen the insides of engines that have had silicone gasket material applied to it. Even though the outside may be scraped clean, you cannot scrape the inside. What I have seen (full size engines) is that the silicone not only gets squeezed out inside but in many cases breaks off and clogs things. Although that is mainly due to sloppy assembly practices. If you use a judicious amount with careful application the overage is not so bad. <G>


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I agree that one does have to apply a bit of finesse when using that liquid gasket stuff, or things can get gummed up internally. Like you say, there is no way to tell once things are buttoned up.

I have been known to use paper gaskets when in a pinch and then smear a really thin coat of silicone on the paper. Install, wait for it to cure (having smeared both metal mating surfaces with vaseline first) disassemble and then trim the gasket. Reassemble and fly.
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Tom:

BTW, what is the thickness of that gasket, do you have a measurement?
Measured several, both old and new style, all are within a few tenths of 0.0075" thick.

One of my "Tricks" is to smear RTV in a thin coat on both sides of typing paper, after it dries cut gaskets from it.

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Thanks again Bill!
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Hey Bill
#19 here....
Got an update on those notes of yours
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HDB-- The .65 is a perfect match for any 1/5 scale, or thereabouts, Cub. I have a 1/5 Sig and use a .65. My plane weighs over ten pounds,(scale gear, lots of mods), the .65 gives plenty of performance for any maneuver the full-scale plane could do, and a MUCH better climb rate than the full-scale. I turn a 14-6 prop with no trouble, get around 9300-9500 rpm on 15% Cool Power.

The .80 is a waste on this plane unless you plan on a clipped wing and stretching the limits.
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Oh, I think I've hit onwhat I need on my 1.00. I went with a 14-7 three bladed prop. It will turn at 9600, right where I wanted. Thing climbs like a homesick angel now.
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You can also use a piece of graphic to make a rubbing on paper for gaskets.

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