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Old 02-15-2015, 08:16 AM
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BJ you are THE MAN. I have been searching everywhere.

Cam issue solved. To reverse you use the cam from the opposed twins. One is standard and one is reversed. While it addresses various sizes with part numbers. The article is on the 72 which will be in the P38. It has 2 blade props listed although it looks as if a 3 blade pusher will do the trick so I can match them. Being glow synchronization is the next step. There are electronic ones for ignition engines although I can use a knob on the transmitter to fine tune per flight. By mixing 2 channels for throttle.

Uou ou made me day! I have all the parts to rebuild a 65 so that will be good practice in getting familiar with the internal mechanics before stripping a new engine down.

Thank you thank you.
Old 02-15-2015, 12:14 PM
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I am needing a Saito 150 jug, will buy new or used if in good condition

Thanks Bob
Old 02-15-2015, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bob62
I am needing a Saito 150 jug, will buy new or used if in good condition

Thanks Bob

Hi Bob. I need a 180 crankcase. If you get a 150 jug and case, and don't need the case, please PM me and maybe we can work a deal. The 150 and 180 have the same case. Thanks.

Sincerely, Richard

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Old 02-15-2015, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by spaceworm
Hi Bob. I need a 180 crankcase. If you get a 150 jug and case, and don't need the case, please PM me and maybe we can work a deal. The 150 and 180 have the same case. Thanks.

Sincerely, Richard

Club Saito #635; Saito 56, 100, 120abc, 130T, 180
May be we can buy a used engine cheap enough and spilt the cost
Old 02-15-2015, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by spaceworm
Hi Bob. I need a 180 crankcase. If you get a 150 jug and case, and don't need the case, please PM me and maybe we can work a deal. The 150 and 180 have the same case. Thanks.

Sincerely, Richard

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The FA-150 case & FA-180 case are NOT the same.

You could install an FA-150 rotating assembly in an FA-180 case, but you would end up W/a very low compression 150. It takes a LOT of work to put an FA-180 rotating assembly in an FA-150 case.

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Old 02-15-2015, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bob62
I am needing a Saito 150 jug, will buy new or used if in good condition

Thanks Bob
I have a jug with piston Bob, in excellent condition. It's black though. I also have several valves, they fit FA-120/150/FG-30.

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Old 02-15-2015, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SrTelemaster150
I have a jug with piston Bob, in excellent condition. It's black though. I also have several valves, they fit FA-120/150/FG-30.
Thanks for the offer, I have ordered a new one from Advantage Hobbies
Old 02-16-2015, 04:48 AM
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Bob does that mean you have run up the white flag re sr's secondhand 150 barrel and valves? surely you don't suspect that sr would have carelessly over revved those parts he offers or god forbid perhaps...even experimented with them,i'd be having nightmares
Old 02-16-2015, 04:53 AM
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I reckon if you got them from SrT, they'd be in pretty good knick actually...

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Old 02-16-2015, 05:47 AM
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Hi , I have several 180 cases, left over after building radial engines. Melvin 765-478-4688 [email protected]
Old 02-16-2015, 05:48 AM
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Med's must of work'ed goooooooood last nite? We got our first real freeze last nite, Freezing rain,sleet. Ever said "could-a, wood-a, should-a, did not" I told my wife l may should lower my canopy because if we get it bad. Canopy off my shop fail in. AnyBody got any ski's?

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Old 02-16-2015, 08:16 AM
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Not looking forward to Wednesday, -9 is the low 7 the high, Thursday 4 is the high. Really not liking the cold anymore.
Old 02-16-2015, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by spaceworm
Hi Bob. I need a 180 crankcase. If you get a 150 jug and case, and don't need the case, please PM me and maybe we can work a deal. The 150 and 180 have the same case. Thanks.

Sincerely, Richard

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Spaceworm, look at Bike rieder post, he has your 180 case
Old 02-16-2015, 09:36 AM
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This is a case of too many having too many cases, and not enough jugs.


Don't ask, coffee has not kicked in yet.
Old 02-16-2015, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bob62
Spaceworm, look at Bike rieder post, he has your 180 case
Thank you, I will definitely look into that. Good luck with your 150.

Sincerely, Richard
Old 02-16-2015, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Fart
Bob does that mean you have run up the white flag re sr's secondhand 150 barrel and valves? surely you don't suspect that sr would have carelessly over revved those parts he offers or god forbid perhaps...even experimented with them,i'd be having nightmares
Nope,the 150 parts are left over from experiments using 180 parts on a 150 case. I replaced a 150 rotating assembly & top end W/180 parts on a 150 case. (FA-180HC) I'm going to do the 180 top end/rod on a 150 bottom end. (FA-171HC) when my furnace quits sucking my wllet dry & the garage temperature gets above 50F. That's a single cylinder prototype for 180 top ends on an FA-450R3D bottom end. (FA-512R3DHC)

After the FA-171HC prototype experiment I'll have a 150 crank and another 150 jug/piston. I also have a couple of 150 conrods.

Seriously, I have lots of good 150 parts in the drawer.
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Originally Posted by bike rieder
Hi , I have several 180 cases, left over after building radial engines. Melvin 765-478-4688 [email protected]
Another "experimenter".
Old 02-16-2015, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BJ64
I reckon if you got them from SrT, they'd be in pretty good knick actually...

BJ
Yep, I'm dumb enought to take perfectly good 150 jugs/pistons off an engine to put 180 parts in their place.

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Old 02-16-2015, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SrTelemaster150
Nope,the 150 parts are left over from experiments using 180 parts on a 150 case. I replaced a 150 rotating assembly & top end W/180 parts on a 150 case. (FA-180HC) I'm going to do the 180 top end/rod on a 150 bottom end. (FA-171HC) when my furnace quits sucking my wllet dry & the garage temperature gets above 50F. That's a single cylinder prototype for 180 top ends on an FA-450R3D bottom end. (FA-512R3DHC)

After the FA-171HC prototype experiment I'll have a 150 crank and another 150 jug/piston. I also have a couple of 150 conrods.

Seriously, I have lots of good 150 parts in the drawer.
Do you also have 180 cases for sale?

Thanks

Sincerely, Richard
Old 02-16-2015, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by spaceworm
Do you also have 180 cases for sale?

Thanks

Sincerely, Richard
Go back to post #28710. Melvin Reider has several. He uses the top ends & cams to build 5 cylinder radial engines W/FA-450R3D bottom end parts.He posted his e-mail & phone number.

He should have lots of 180 cases, cranks & rods.
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Originally Posted by slamn sammy
Med's must of work'ed goooooooood last nite? We got our first real freeze last nite, Freezing rain,sleet. Ever said "could-a, wood-a, should-a, did not" I told my wife l may should lower my canopy because if we get it bad. Canopy off my shop fail in. AnyBody got any ski's?
Sammy would it be cheaper to move to more temperate climes?
Old 02-20-2015, 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BJ64
I reckon if you got them from SrT, they'd be in pretty good knick actually...

BJ
I think so too,and i have a question for you mate.I've never missed new product warning labels for say,a washing machine where the book says if you are washing childrens clothing please remove them from the said clothes before hitting the start cycle.But i've had a manual crank failure on the nitro fuel pump for my saito's,i kid you not the sticker on the new one says "use with gas oil and engine fuel" on a brighter note an old club mate eddie gave me a real nice dave brown refueling tin to attach the new pump to.While i think about it what is everyone's favourite sport flying fuel for a sunday hacker with a saito on board? mine's 10 nitro ten syn and five degummed castor.
Old 02-20-2015, 04:16 AM
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Mine is currently WildCat 10% with 18% full synthetic
Old 02-20-2015, 05:02 AM
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I just use what the dude at the local hobby shop sells me - I think this batch is 'Byron Fuels - Aero Gen 2'. 15% Nitro, 18% Lube. It doesn't say exactly what that 'lube' is.

Mind you, I'm still easing myself into stinkies (electric flier up to this point). So I haven't actually flown me glowies/gassers yet - just bench tested blah blah blah. I'm not sure which one the neighbours hate more - the sound of a revving-the-t.i.t.s-off-it I/C, or the screaming whine of the Turbines.

Either way, it has to be better than that crap Indian music they trash next door until 2am while they're playing pool and sinking enough booze to reincarnate the Bismarck. German oom-pah-pah I could handle...

BJ
Old 02-20-2015, 05:39 AM
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Finished the Saito 80 rebuild. New parts are drive flange & collet, crankcase, pushrod covers & seals, rear cover, gaskets and bearings. Total parts cost was about $75. It will be a few weeks till I get to run it when the weather warms up.

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