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Old 03-12-2015, 02:57 PM
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To divert people OLD FART how are you getting on with all that wind and rain in the west. If you need it I have just the place to store all those Saitos away from the wind and fury
Old 03-13-2015, 06:21 AM
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Hello trev how are you.We've got plenty of wind over here but none of it is backwash off a saito fourstroke prop this weekend i reckon.Big cyclone up north moving down here and the first drops of rain in two months,we look forward to it.I've just finished two solid weeks of painting a few new harley streetglides,you won't believe it i've painted every chromed piece(41 on each bike)vivid gloss black and the tinware is denim black...same colour as those cheap open faced helmets,am i losing my mind or just confused ?
Old 03-13-2015, 03:57 PM
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[QUOTE=Old Fart;12001577]
... i've painted every chromed piece(41 on each bike)vivid gloss black ...QUOTE]

What primer and paint did you use to paint the chrome? Every time I have tried the paint almost slides off the chrome. Thanks.

Sincerely, Richard
Old 03-13-2015, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Rv7garage
Yep, 883R with only 10k on the ODO. I bought the bike for $3000 in 2012 with only 450 miles on the clock, put some V&H pipes and a Corbin seat on it, and did a carb rejet. Love my Sportster!

Its sposed to be over 60 here on Monday, I will be hitting the flying field after work

I wanted to today but the field is too fricking soft to drive to. It is actually at the end of a grass runway that you have to drive down to get to, and its too soft yet.
Old 03-13-2015, 11:41 PM
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Give the chrome part a serious de grease and scuff lightly with a foam backed piece of 240 grit.Spray a light coat of single or 2 pack epoxy wet on wet etch primer and then apply a topcoat as carefully as you did the primer.The etch i use is a wattyl brand single pack super etch that goes over galv,brass,aluminium,chrome etc,have used it reliably for years.
Old 03-14-2015, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Old Fart
Sometimes you make me laugh so hard i end up crying,now stop it
Well, i can't help it if you turn on the water works. I didn't say that I liked them.
Old 03-14-2015, 07:17 AM
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Pete, have you repainted any Saitos, there was a guy on here named KMOT who created some beautiful repainted Saitos. Bill Robison partly repainted my little .30.
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Originally Posted by Hobbsy
Pete, have you repainted any Saitos, there was a guy on here named KMOT who created some beautiful repainted Saitos. Bill Robison partly repainted my little .30.
Hi Dave, you could paint odd-firing Saito Twins with the same paint as you put on Harleys. Maybe even two tone green. I am wishing I still had a Harley, even though I couldn't ride it up here yet without chains and training wheels.

Have you gotten your 1.00 Twin yet? Waiting for reports on it.

Sincerely, Richard
Old 03-14-2015, 08:27 AM
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Yes sir, I could but where would I put the pin stripes, the 1.00 twin is on its way and I am excited. It should be here Monday. It's an earlier version, full report coming. The first thing it will get is two Fox Miracle plugs.
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Old 03-14-2015, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Hobbsy
Yes sir, I could but where would I put the pin stripes, the 1.00 twin is on its way and I am excited. It should be here Monday. It's an earlier version, full report coming. The first thing it will get is two Fox Miracle plugs.
What, no CDI?
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Dan, I'll have to wrap my mind around that a bit. But, probably
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What would you use to paint these with, engine enamel?
Old 03-15-2015, 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by acdii
What would you use to paint these with, engine enamel?
I used black engine enamel on a cylinder & baked it at 300 F for an hour.

Surface prep is paramount.
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Dan, I borrowed this picture form Richard, is this what it will take except with more modern pickups/ Thanks, Dave
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Originally Posted by Hobbsy
Dan, I borrowed this picture form Richard, is this what it will take except with more modern pickups/ Thanks, Dave
You will have 2 options.

1) Use 2 pickups & 2 modules as pictured. Here is the rub W/that setup. While you may set the timing on The starboard cylinder by rotating the magnet ring, the port cylinder may or may not be in time. You will most likely need an adjustable pickup to properly time the 2nd cylinder. Just like the dual point distributors that were used on the '63-'64 Panheads & Limey bikes prior to '70. 1 cylinder was timed by rotating the distributor or backing plate, the 2nd by adjusting the gap of the points. At least 1 of your pickups will need to be adjustable. Not an insurmountable issue, but it will add to the complexity some

2) Purcase the uneven firing twin sytem from C&H. It will have a N/S pickup & N/S magnets precisely located @ 180. The module for the uneven firing twins will sequence the timing for the proper cylinder due to the N/S firing circuits. This is by far the simplest, lightest option & cheaper in the long run if you must purchase new components.

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Thanks Dan, the C&H site is down at the moment.
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Originally Posted by SrTelemaster150
You will have 2 options.

1) Use 2 pickups & 2 modules as pictured. Here is the rub W/that setup. While you may set the timing on The starboard cylinder by rotating the magnet ring, the port cylinder may or may not be in time. You will most likely need an adjustable pickup to properly time the 2nd cylinder. Just like the dual point distributors that were used on the '63-'64 Panheads & Limey bikes prior to '70. 1 cylinder was timed by rotating the distributor or backing plate, the 2nd by adjusting the gap of the points. At least 1 of your pickups will need to be adjustable. Not an insurmountable issue, but it will add to the complexity some

2) Purcase the uneven firing twin sytem from C&H. It will have a N/S pickup & N/S magnets precisely located @ 180. The module for the uneven firing twins will sequence the timing for the proper cylinder due to the N/S firing circuits. This is by far the simplest, lightest option & cheaper in the long run if you must purchase new components.
Here Ya go.
http://youtu.be/3lqCJ2iJu9U
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Originally Posted by Hobbsy
Dan, I borrowed this picture form Richard, is this what it will take except with more modern pickups/ Thanks, Dave
The picture of the 130T/CDI is from John M. I just found the link. Thanks John, sorry I did not give you credit before.

Sincerely, Richard
Old 03-15-2015, 09:08 AM
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Thanks Richard and Dan, great picture and great video.
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Originally Posted by Hobbsy
Pete, have you repainted any Saitos, there was a guy on here named KMOT who created some beautiful repainted Saitos. Bill Robison partly repainted my little .30.
No dave but i think kmot (richard?) is a legend when he paints his.The only surviving panhead captain america bike out of four used for filming the 1968 movie with hopper and fonda just went under the hammer at auction for 1.7 million,don't ask me why i think they needed four bikes for a long shoot
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Off topic for this thread - I know - but is there anywhere one can get plans for building your own landing gear?

I've asked around a few other traps but came up with a big fat nought.

I'm chasing some LG for a TopFlite FW190.

Thought some of you clued-up guys might be able to point me in the right direction maybe?

BJ
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Here is one of Tommy's, (KMOT)'s creations, an early .45. My guess is that he used stainless screws. I'll go back and get the link to the page where these pictures appear.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/glow...ted-video.html
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Originally Posted by BJ64
Off topic for this thread - I know - but is there anywhere one can get plans for building your own landing gear?

I've asked around a few other traps but came up with a big fat nought.

I'm chasing some LG for a TopFlite FW190.

Thought some of you clued-up guys might be able to point me in the right direction maybe?

BJ
I dont know of any, but I am also looking to make my own for a P-61 and B-25, motorized, not air driven. I have the basic Idea in my head, but without dimensions, its difficult. I am taking some measurements from the Ziroli plans, and will come up with my own design then. Making the screw drive will be the most difficult thing since I haven't used a lathe to make treads in years. I may just modify a bolt and be done with it.
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The1.00 twin is here, too late to run today, I'm taking my wife to Mount Vernon Hospital tomorrow for an Ultra Sound, about 75 miles. Well see how time works out. It has not been run, the valve stems and heads are shiny and clean. I pulled the back plate the interior is all shiny too and while I had it off I made sure the right airbleed screw was dead center, it faces the rear and is all but invisible.
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Old 03-17-2015, 04:18 AM
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I am surprised that none of you sharp eyed Saitoists noticed that the airpump is missing from this engine. Clarence Lee noted this in his last test of the 1.82. A good move when you consider that the by pass gasses are going to vent the crankcase anyway. The right cylinder has a standard cam cover installed when the pump was removed.

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