Notices
Glow Engines Discuss RC glow engines

Welcome to Club SAITO !

Old 05-19-2015, 03:18 PM
  #29276  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: goolwasa, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 1,680
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Old Fart
Hi i meant to ask if you are running on board glow at low idle speeds,i like the continental style shape of the heads on the 90ts a friend has one unrun yet to go in a small falke motorglider,very graceful aeroplane re aerobatics.The pipes you salvaged from a 100? to fit the 90 cracked me up,who's on drugs now?

ps while i'm at it i should apologize to the good people reading this thread for popey's genteel,anti shooting manner.The poor so and so lives in a redneck free southern state over here,how's that for being round the other side of the world geography wise,it's upside down i reckon
Thanks for the apology O.F. Now if u meant it , it would be even better ! Cheers

Last edited by the pope; 05-19-2015 at 05:23 PM.
Old 05-19-2015, 03:20 PM
  #29277  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: goolwasa, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 1,680
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by FNQFLYER
Old Fart, don't pick on the pope after all his state is the last real strong hold of Sarah 2 dads and her buddies. They can't build ships but their O/T flyers do offer some competition at National level. Re the 82 and the 115, you pay the freight and lodge a security deposit and I might even think about it after a bottle of good QLD white otherwise you'll have to come over and collect them
Our ships may sink but we can call them submarines and get x2 the price . As for the rest of your post , what on earth are u raving on about ? Cheers the pope
Old 05-20-2015, 04:26 AM
  #29278  
 
Rudolph Hart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Perth, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 4,383
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hobbsy
Pete, I never use on board glow power, I never saw the need for it. I tried it once so long ago that the on board system was built by ACE RC in Higginsville, Mo. I had a mechanical switch that you slid the actuator for or aft to set the energize point. I have the correct pipes coming.

PS, please say something about my new OS .56 or my feelins will be hurt.
I have a servo plugged into the throttle channel to manually activate the on board glo with the 182 twin at low speeds,if i still had it tuned the way it was i would'nt need it but that's what can happen if you are not comfortable with bloody airbleed carbs x 2 on the same engine.I'm getting used to it.OK i'm clairvoint (sp?) and predict that in an upcoming post someone called jenny will mention your os 56 although i don't know if she's related to sarah two dad's
Old 05-20-2015, 04:33 AM
  #29279  
 
Rudolph Hart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Perth, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 4,383
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

This is the deal trev..i send you two jugs of some homebrewed rocket fuel and a packet of sippin straws,ring me after you've sipped the first one and we'll talk a deal on the 82 and 115
Old 05-20-2015, 08:38 AM
  #29280  
blw
My Feedback: (3)
 
blw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Opelika, AL
Posts: 9,447
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hobbsy
PS, please say something about my new OS .56 or my feelins will be hurt.
Dave, I think your feelings will be hurt if we DO say something comparing it to the Saito 56.
Old 05-20-2015, 08:55 AM
  #29281  
My Feedback: (102)
 
Hobbsy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Colonial Beach, VA
Posts: 20,370
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

I doubt that but I don't have a Saito .56 to with which to compare it. They'd be close I'm sure. With the OS .56 Alpha I'm broadening my horizons a little
Old 05-20-2015, 02:28 PM
  #29282  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Cairns, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 1,053
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

OS 56 and Saito 56 no comparison. Saito any day especialy as a competition engine. Old fart good to see you got the last missive, pity about the pope, give him a compliment and what do you get, a ship that they call a sub. Any way droll peasants, the fog has lifted and I am off to commit aviation. A Feather Merchant powered by a YS 63 and a Lanzo Racer powered by a ASP 32 diesel (used to have a Saito 30) and maybe my new "full house" trainer. 10 minutes to the field and breakfast. Catch ya. Old Fart on that offer well you will have to do better after all they are Saitos.
Old 05-21-2015, 12:17 AM
  #29283  
Senior Member
 
SrTelemaster150's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Brasher Falls, NY
Posts: 3,904
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default I'm Getting My Own Airfield

Well, sort of.

The local AMA club got word that the present site for their field located on ALCOA property will no longer be available. For the last few weeks, I have had several meetings, first with one of the members I know & his friend, then with several club members that wanted to see the site. Last night, after a membership meeting, about 10 of the members came out for another look & it was made official. The club will relocate to a 10 acre hayfield on my property, The field is located on a flat top rise about 200 yards from the road, just across the road from my house.

We will sign a 1 year trial period lease & in all likelihood opt for a longer term lease next spring. I am going to write up the trial period lease agreement over the next few days.

Last edited by SrTelemaster150; 05-21-2015 at 12:22 AM.
Old 05-21-2015, 03:49 AM
  #29284  
 
Rudolph Hart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Perth, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 4,383
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

You can deny all you like brother dave but deep down we know's you is wounded
Old 05-21-2015, 04:17 AM
  #29285  
My Feedback: (102)
 
Hobbsy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Colonial Beach, VA
Posts: 20,370
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Good news Dan, flying at home, I would love that.

Pete, my parents moved 15 times when I was growin up, I found them every time. In case you didn't know that is a &hit eatin grin.
Do you have a .56 Pete or Dan, a Saito that is.
Old 05-21-2015, 11:14 AM
  #29286  
Senior Member
 
mike early's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Ashland, KY
Posts: 2,106
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Any suggestions for a plane I can mount two Saito 72?

My first twin is looking for me, I think.
Old 05-21-2015, 12:17 PM
  #29287  
My Feedback: (5)
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: matthews, NC
Posts: 264
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

My Saito 72 gets really really hot to the touch both the engine heads and muffler just letting it idle for 1-2 minutes any suggestions?
Old 05-21-2015, 12:28 PM
  #29288  
Senior Member
 
mike early's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Ashland, KY
Posts: 2,106
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Get a infrared temperature gun. See how hot we're talking.
Old 05-21-2015, 12:41 PM
  #29289  
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 149
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I don't own a 72 by my 115 gets noticeably hotter than the 2 cycle engines I've had. One of my fellow club members assured me this is normal. The 2 cycles do get hot but seem to cool quicker. Especially if they are allowed to idol for a moment. I think the four strokes have more surface area that gets noticeably hot. After a few years no harm to the FA 115 and I have finally learned not to burn my arm (the engine is inverted so the hot muffler is on the opposite side). It may be worth the cost of an inexpensive infrared thermometer to check that your engine is not truly overheating.


Originally Posted by mike early
Any suggestions for a plane I can mount two Saito 72?

My first twin is looking for me, I think.
Old 05-21-2015, 01:13 PM
  #29290  
My Feedback: (5)
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: matthews, NC
Posts: 264
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I will try and get a infrared thermometer today but i can tell you the muffler and engine head were really hot you can't keep your finger on there for more than a second. Also i noticed the aluminum spinner and prop shaft were warm .
Old 05-21-2015, 02:12 PM
  #29291  
Senior Member
 
mike early's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Ashland, KY
Posts: 2,106
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I really think there's nothing to worry about, to be honest.
Old 05-21-2015, 02:17 PM
  #29292  
My Feedback: (5)
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: matthews, NC
Posts: 264
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

These are pictures of the engine and cowl i am assuming there is enough cooling.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	20150521_180434.jpg
Views:	50
Size:	191.6 KB
ID:	2097506   Click image for larger version

Name:	20150521_180446.jpg
Views:	37
Size:	180.0 KB
ID:	2097508   Click image for larger version

Name:	20150521_180518.jpg
Views:	46
Size:	194.9 KB
ID:	2097509  
Old 05-21-2015, 05:12 PM
  #29293  
Senior Member
 
SrTelemaster150's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Brasher Falls, NY
Posts: 3,904
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by p3arljam
I will try and get a infrared thermometer today but i can tell you the muffler and engine head were really hot you can't keep your finger on there for more than a second. Also i noticed the aluminum spinner and prop shaft were warm .
That's a sign of a bad front bearing.
Old 05-21-2015, 05:50 PM
  #29294  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: goolwasa, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 1,680
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The cooling here needs some work . If this was mine here is what I would do . Those openings next to the spinner don't do much to help as is . I would close them off completely and paint them black . Now that there taken care of open up the bottom hole at the front .It needs to head towards the spinner . You want the air to hit the cylinder and be forced passed through the fins to carry the heat away . Thats why the top ones are near useless unless there baffled to force air down to the head . More often then not they just force air into the the cowl and it blocks more cooling air coming in where its needed ie, the head . One last thing dont worry that it may spoil the scale lines of the plane . YOU DONT want to COOK your beautiful engine . The late P E Rievers had a great set of pics explaining it on his website but since his death its no more . Maybe u could find it . Ive got them but cant upload them for some reason too easily . Try this first and then you can look into adding louvers if necessary . Cheers the pope
Old 05-21-2015, 06:16 PM
  #29295  
My Feedback: (5)
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: matthews, NC
Posts: 264
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks guys for the help.
Old 05-21-2015, 06:31 PM
  #29296  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: goolwasa, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 1,680
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by p3arljam
I will try and get a infrared thermometer today but i can tell you the muffler and engine head were really hot you can't keep your finger on there for more than a second. Also i noticed the aluminum spinner and prop shaft were warm .
Mufflers get bloody hot so thats not a sign necessarily . Warm is ok , hot is when you cant leave your finger on there for a second or 2 . Normally if u have bearing issues u can hear them or there is slop when u grab the prop both sides near the ends and give it a wiggle . Cheers
Old 05-21-2015, 06:40 PM
  #29297  
My Feedback: (5)
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: matthews, NC
Posts: 264
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I checked holding the prop at the ends and wiggiling it it seems tight and no slop and the engine when running sounds nice. I will work on the cooling if that does not work i will have a fellow flyer change the bearings.
Old 05-21-2015, 07:54 PM
  #29298  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: goolwasa, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 1,680
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

If your going to open up the front dont go too large . Just enough so you can see the solid part of the barrel , not the fins .That way the air hits the barrel and goes around through the fins , otherwise the air will go to the least resistant path and that is where theres nothing in front of it . Think of the air as water when it hits something it will go around it but if theres nothing in front it will go straight ahead .Go upwards towards the prop nut you dont have open up the front as to expose the cam box just the barrel is fine . Good luck and report back , If you do as I suggest you will have a cooler running engine. Cheers

Last edited by the pope; 05-21-2015 at 08:10 PM.
Old 05-22-2015, 04:29 AM
  #29299  
My Feedback: (6)
 
FlyerInOKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 14,204
Received 278 Likes on 242 Posts
Default

Sign me up I have a Saito .80 and I'm shopping for a twin now.

Mike
Old 05-22-2015, 04:58 AM
  #29300  
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Ottawa, ON, CANADA
Posts: 885
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by the pope
Mufflers get bloody hot so thats not a sign necessarily . Warm is ok , hot is when you cant leave your finger on there for a second or 2 . Normally if u have bearing issues u can hear them or there is slop when u grab the prop both sides near the ends and give it a wiggle . Cheers
p3arljam; I have Saitos and have experienced having a warm spinner and prop shaft, this is a an indication that your HSN is slightly set to lean which allows the engine to run a bit hotter than it should. Turn the HSN only 1 click CCW to richen and fly, when you land after the flight, recheck the spinner for warmth. If it is still warm, turn the HSN 1 more click CCW and do another flight, recheck the spinner again after landing. This technique eliminated the wam spinner on both my FA-100's, one of the FA-100's took 1 click rich and the other FA-100 took 2 clicks rich to eliminate the warm spinner.

Roger

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Manage Preferences Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.