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Happy Thanksgiving Sammy!

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Thank You Mike, Wish you and your flamley well. �� �� ��
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I watched a re run of Big Bang Theory last night, the one about the white drone (helicopter Raj bought). That just about sums up the drone thing for me
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Originally Posted by vertical grimmace
My new 4-star .20 kit showed up yesterday. It looks at first blush to be a perfect model for the little Saito .30. This aircraft, even though advertised as electric, has a little caption in the instructions stating that there are no structural mods needed to use a glow engine. So couple the light design with the little.30, it should be a lot of fun.
Right with you there,it will be fun how much does it weigh? reason i ask is that my pheonix rainbow with 30 and a full 8oz tank weighs about four pounds in the old measure,it goes vertical from a standing start (semi hover)
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Big bang theory re run trev? i had to sit through a half hour of an australian locally produced for tv drama show just to please someone else,now that's character building tho i'm not sure who for.Have you flown the 50 yet?
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Happy Thanksgiving to all, yes even to you in the non Thanksgiving Countries.
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Originally Posted by Old Fart
Right with you there,it will be fun how much does it weigh? reason i ask is that my pheonix rainbow with 30 and a full 8oz tank weighs about four pounds in the old measure,it goes vertical from a standing start (semi hover)

The box says 2.5 lbs. I may be a bit lighter without a flying battery, but that weight sounds about right. With a 48" wing, it seems about right.
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Farmer, I give thanks that I live in God's country every day but I have also enjoyed yours in my younger days in less desirable countries. Old Fart I have flown the 50 in 1/ A CG Cub, a GP Decathlon, a GP Super Sportster, a Buzzard Bombshell (O/T a/c) and a Powerhouse (also O/t). It performed well in all the a/c and mine is currently sitting in storage while I play with my mates one.
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Trev i've never flown any one saito engine i have in so many airframes unless i speared one into the ground,tell all,how low are you really flyin?? plus..get this mate! unusually i was watching the news last night and saw a thanksgiving celebration in america.Two men lifted this giant fluffy white turkey up onto a stand,they were red faced after that.If you put two legs on the front of that turkey it's bigger than a baby bush chook (emu) Do you remember that childhood cartoon with the big red rooster pointing a wing/finger at the offending small chicken and saying..'i say boy'..'I SAY BOY' well this turkey just dwarfed that pimp.I expect dave and co will have stuffed themselves with so much turkey they'll be sprouting little white feathers next week and so they should.

Vertical if that ends up around three pounds make sure you have good rudder movement friend.
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Old Fart optimum vertical is usually an eye ball 87.5 degrees. True vertical (90 degrees) requires to much power to get real height. But is good for over powered models which are prone to wing flutter. My ideal is between 75 and 85 that way airspeed tends to reduce any wing masking effect on the rudder. Been listening to an expert (at the field) telling me how good his 12.5 x 5.5 Bolly carbon prop is on his YS 63 and how good it was that Ed Bolly (can'r spell his surname) designed it for him. Ed actually adapted it from the speed prop he built for the Enya 53 under instruction / request from me and further designed the 13.5 x 6 and 13x 6.5 and 13.5 x 6.5 for the YS 63's for me and my mate. The variatios for the 63 were as a result of the different rpm's achieved by varying the nitro content in the fuel used. I love these tuning "experts" at competitions them helping others is the best leg up I can usually get on the day. I case you were wondering I usually offer advice when asked but conclude with "that is what I might do or try" but it is your decision.
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V Grimmace- I don't remember mine saying that but I think they pretty much left the mods for going glow up to the builder. Unless they have added more balsa, I wouldn't buy that myself. They did a few things I didn't like. There's some mistakes in the manual. I'll try to remember and take some pics of mine in the shop. It's uncovered. I know for certain the single firewall will rip out with a glow engine unless you do something more. The fuel tank would be completely sealed forever unless you devise a hatch.
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Originally Posted by blw
V Grimmace- I don't remember mine saying that but I think they pretty much left the mods for going glow up to the builder. Unless they have added more balsa, I wouldn't buy that myself. They did a few things I didn't like. There's some mistakes in the manual. I'll try to remember and take some pics of mine in the shop. It's uncovered. I know for certain the single firewall will rip out with a glow engine unless you do something more. The fuel tank would be completely sealed forever unless you devise a hatch.
They say to flood the laser cut openings in the firewall with CA glue or epoxy. Otherwise, there is really nothing else to do unless there is no access to the tank. Fabricating a hatch is no biggie though. Funny if you look at some old RC kits, they say to just build the tank into the plane. (big mistake that would be) . The Kadet Sr. kit is an example.

Maybe the kit that I have is newer, as the engine mod tips are at the very beginning of the manual. Do you like the way yours flies?
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Originally Posted by Old Fart
Big bang theory re run trev? i had to sit through a half hour of an australian locally produced for tv drama show just to please someone else,now that's character building tho i'm not sure who for.Have you flown the 50 yet?
I take it the show was no Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries then?

We served a 18.5 lbs. (8.35 Kilos) bird for Thanksgiving dinner this year. We were feeding 11 and unfortunately all the leftovers were taken home by the kids. I brine the turkey over night in a solution of salt, sugar, honey, and water seasoned with peppercorns and Bay leaf. Makes the turkey very juicy that way.
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Originally Posted by FNQFLYER
Old Fart optimum vertical is usually an eye ball 87.5 degrees. True vertical (90 degrees) requires to much power to get real height. But is good for over powered models which are prone to wing flutter. My ideal is between 75 and 85 that way airspeed tends to reduce any wing masking effect on the rudder. Been listening to an expert (at the field) telling me how good his 12.5 x 5.5 Bolly carbon prop is on his YS 63 and how good it was that Ed Bolly (can'r spell his surname) designed it for him. Ed actually adapted it from the speed prop he built for the Enya 53 under instruction / request from me and further designed the 13.5 x 6 and 13x 6.5 and 13.5 x 6.5 for the YS 63's for me and my mate. The variatios for the 63 were as a result of the different rpm's achieved by varying the nitro content in the fuel used. I love these tuning "experts" at competitions them helping others is the best leg up I can usually get on the day. I case you were wondering I usually offer advice when asked but conclude with "that is what I might do or try" but it is your decision.
Trev that's an interesting thing on the bolly props but have never used them on my saito's.The pheonix rainbow with 30 and a 10x6 mas classic has a two foot takeoff and goes any angle vertical till it gets to small.

Okc that sounds like a yummy recipe for the turkey,just how big are your cooking ovens over there?
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
I take it the show was no Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries then?

We served a 18.5 lbs. (8.35 Kilos) bird for Thanksgiving dinner this year. We were feeding 11 and unfortunately all the leftovers were taken home by the kids. I brine the turkey over night in a solution of salt, sugar, honey, and water seasoned with peppercorns and Bay leaf. Makes the turkey very juicy that way.
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Okc that sounds like a yummy recipe for the turkey,just how big are your cooking ovens over there?
We've had turkeys just over 26# for the last 2 years. We ate leftover turkey, oyster stuffing and a bit of mashed potatoes smothered in turkey gravy for several days. That's the best part. I had deep dish apple pie (that I baked) for breakfast on 2 mornings. The 1st thing to run out was the deviled eggs followed closely by the cranberry/raspberry Jello salad with whole cranberries.

We ate all but a small amount of the turkey.
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I think the biggest we ever needed was 21 lbs. so I haven't hit a space problem with the oven yet. Fried Turkeys have been popular for a while. I have never had it and prefer to the old fashion roasted turkey but some swear by it. It must be fried outdoors and away from the house because if you screw it up you can set the house on fire. Every year there is always some idiot who manages to do just that! It requires a special rig and you place the turkey in the pot and fill it with water to just cover the turkey. Then you measure the water and add that amount cooking oil. The idiot usually throw the instructions away fill the thing with oil and drop the turkey in launch oil out all over the place and including into the fire. Then they wonder why the house catches fire because they setup under the patio cover or the garage catches fire because they are trying to cook in the garage with the overhead door open. It's a great I.Q. test to be sure and we all know you can't fix stupid!

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We had a 15 pounder and fed 8 people, we still have 1.5 pumpkin pies, and 1 mince meat pie left, no turkey left. 1/2 gallon of egg nog left.
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OK a friend just sent this and it makes my earlier point

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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
OK a friend just sent this and it makes my earlier point

Make's sense, but Elmer Fudd shot and got blown up many times and never died. You know what they say about drunks and children.
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My Dog's favorite carol sung to the tune of Silent Night.

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I can't sing that to the tune of Silent Night! Too may words or something.
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Ok enough of the turkey stuffings and recipes,jealous saliva glues keyboards up and you end up typing stupid stuff because the keys are all glued together,that's my excuse

ps help...anyone running a saito and got problems....please answer there will be opinions and the least you can do is laugh.
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I had one problem with a Saito about 12 years go. I bought a silver Saito .50 and after break in the compression had not improved from the sometimes slightly soft when new. I removed the rocker covers to check the valve lash which is usually a waste of time. When I flipped it with the rocker covers off I heard a tiny hissing on the intake valve side. It turned out that there was a tiny flaw in the cylinder casting allowing air to flow around the valve seat and up in to the rocker area. I took it to the PO on Thursday to return to Horizon, it was back on Tuesday with a new cylinder. A really fast turn around. The flaw was barely visible on the rocker side and just visible on the inside. I have this plane arriving Friday or Saturday for twin Saito Fa .40a's, I'll have to run 10x7 or 8 props as the fuse' are 11" apart. It is in the yellow version. It's different and fun.
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Interesting forked tail devil you got there! If you like twins how about going for a scale rig next build? Try this one.
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A great suggestion, thanks, if I can swing it this will my next twin, I already have the two Saito .30s for it.
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