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Old 10-16-2016, 07:02 AM
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The ones with the most airtime are the Saitos. Most reliable engines I have, as long as they get Wildcat. Guys at the field always comment on how well my engines run too. They are gas guys with DA and DLE in their 3D bombers. I'm the only one who still flies glow there, the rest converted to gas or electric. Thats actually a good thing, I have received several free gallons of fuel too. Next year before SIG, I will pre-order a case of their full synthetic, since their 50/50 castor syn fuel is not working well in my engines, and they were out last flyin.

Speaking of SIG, rumor has it the Rascal 168 will start shipping first week of November. Already cleared most of my benches in prep for it, just have to find a place to store what is left on my main build board.
Old 10-16-2016, 11:56 AM
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Yeah
i agree the best running engines I have are the saitos. I have had a couple of gas and they give me fits.
Just this last weekend my friend and I had a terrible time with a couple gas engines. Never did get one running. Grabbed the hog with the saito and away we went. But then I have always had good luck with glow. And we don't want to talk about electric.
As far as the 168 goes yes there working on try to get it out the first week in November. I stopped in and picked up fuel and talked to them about it. I to had my bench cleared off tell my daughter decided to build a four-star 20. But that should not take long.
Old 10-16-2016, 03:35 PM
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I have two twin war birds in boxes to be started, so if the 168 doesn't make it in time, the B-25 rolls out.
Old 10-17-2016, 02:43 AM
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I wouldn't know were to start to decide which kit to build first. I do have a something extra ARF that I won at sig. It will be funn to add another green something extra to the fuild. I just can't decide how much power to put it in it. 56. 72. Or 82.
Old 10-17-2016, 04:14 AM
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If it says 46 put an fa82 in it.

Acker dacka (ac/dc) could you extrapolate on the problems you are having running any glow saito on a 50/50 syn and castor oil mix?
Old 10-17-2016, 05:17 AM
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no power, sputter at full throttle, poor idle. Drain the tank, fill with Wildcat and once the new fuel reaches the carb, it runs fine. This happens in all the Saito, but the OS runs just fine on it.
Old 10-17-2016, 05:27 AM
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Since this is a Saito thread I have an old Saito 120 from the straight pipe days will a muffler and adapter from a current model fit it? The local clubs are so narrow minded about running unmufflered engines they can see thru a keyhole with both eyes at the same time! As you can see it needs a little cleaning but the price was right. If I can't find a muffler I will have to sell it.

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Old 10-17-2016, 06:58 AM
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Have you run it along side a mufflered one? I ran my twin Gemini with straight pipes and was surprised how quiet it was, much quieter than a muffled gas 2 stroke.
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Nope, I haven't fired it up yet I wanted to do a little cleaning first but haven't had the time.
Old 10-17-2016, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by c-crunch
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I to had my bench cleared off tell my daughter decided to build a four-star 20. But that should not take long.
The Sig 4*20 is an excellent kit but it's all electric from a design point of view unless you start adding and modding. It should build fast if she is using electric. I'm putting a Saito FA-30GK on mine if I ever finish it. But I wanted to say that it's a fine kit.

I'm going to sell off 3 new Evolution .46NT engines. I think 1 is NIB and the other 2 had about 10 minutes of run time by me. I'm cutting back on engines and look to be 90% Saito when done.
Old 10-17-2016, 08:03 AM
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Boy there is a lot to comment on here.
Let's start with acdii i run just about any kind of fuel in my saito's and they run awesome thats way i like Saito so much. The one thing i have found is they don't like a ot of oil. Tryed to run 24% oil in my 150 it didn't like that but blended it down to 18% and runs great again. You are trying to run sig 4 stroke fuel right? But do agree that the Saito's do run better on straight synthetic

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its true 4 stokes are quite with a straight pipe. I have a couple that way. And your right there are some pretty narrow mined people out there

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Thought about that very thing a Saito 30 would be perfect for the four star but i was trying to keep it simple for her. I might still do that though.
Old 10-17-2016, 08:12 AM
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Maybe if its hidden under a full cowling I can escape the noise nazis?
Old 10-17-2016, 08:38 AM
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You know, it could be that there is just too much oil in that SIG fuel. I think, but need to verify, it may be Champion 15.

15% Nitromethane
20% Lubricating Oils
(1/2 Castor, 1/2 Klotz)

Now the OS manual, and the Magnum manual state to use 20% oil so that could be why they run OK on it. I will run a tank of it in the Gemini and see how it runs, if it runs OK, then I can use up the gallon and a 1/4 I have left of it.
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Acdii
the sig 4 stroke fuel still runs 50/50 blend but at 18% oil.
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I have to check the label, not sure if I got 4 stroke or not, but pretty sure its 20% oil content.
Old 10-17-2016, 12:30 PM
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Just hang a small hairspray can on it with the.straight pipe in one end and out the other. If it looks like a muffler then it is. Saito are quiet enough IMHO. ��
Old 10-17-2016, 12:43 PM
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I really need to get an engine test stand, I want to fire up my 42 and see how it sounds with the straight pipe.
Old 10-17-2016, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
Since this is a Saito thread I have an old Saito 120 from the straight pipe days will a muffler and adapter from a current model fit it? The local clubs are so narrow minded about running unmufflered engines they can see thru a keyhole with both eyes at the same time! As you can see it needs a little cleaning but the price was right. If I can't find a muffler I will have to sell it.

If you do decide to sell it, I would be happy to take it off your hands. At my field, the more noise the better. Even the younger crowd bring out all hopped up engines with a mile long super can on it and believe me, it gets loud.
Old 10-18-2016, 03:12 AM
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AC, I may be stepping in doo doo here, but it appears that the carb and exhaust are reversed, or it's my maginashun, maybe.
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Boy am i glad you piped up dave,if i'd said that they would think i'm trippin,where as you've just had a glass or two how's geri?.

Barry the small electric arf's make good conversions to the saito 30,with the rainbow superlight i left the box off the firewall and mounted the 30 straight to it.

ps acker dacker do you think it would be possible to run a saito 120 like that if you needed to have a rear exhaust?
Old 10-18-2016, 05:07 AM
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She's fine, she had a 3 hour test the other day at Mary Washington Hospital Center, they removed two polyps and stretched her esophagus. She's doing well though.

I shy away from planes that have any kind of E designation, it's getting harder and harder to find them. Electric is a worse disease than gasoline.
Old 10-18-2016, 07:01 AM
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Great story C-Crunch! You probably need to increase the incidence of the wing relative to the floats' centerline in order to get the wing at a positive AoA when she's up on the step. IOW, put a shim under the front float mounts.

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Charley
yeah we did that i think it was that Texas water its not the same as up North.
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Originally Posted by c-crunch
Charley
yeah we did that i think it was that Texas water its not the same as up North.
He can't help it Texas has been trying to improve their water quality by buying Oklahoma water but with the droughts we haven't had it to spare.
Old 10-18-2016, 12:05 PM
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As long as it isn't Flint water, you will be OK.

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