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Old 01-02-2017, 02:25 PM
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Like any one really cares. OS has moved the crankcase vent line to the front cam bearings and a line to the intake to improve the oiling of the cam bearings. Thats another great reason to run Saito. No extra moving parts
Old 01-02-2017, 03:46 PM
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Well actually, there is more outgoing than incoming on the CC vent. Blowby gasses push oil and other residue out, while the piston moving up pulls in a tiny bit of air. There is actually more coming out than moving back in.

I pulled the back cover off my FG-11 to check on oil and it was nice and wet, with just a little amount of oil still in the crank. This means I got the oil mixture just right.

I also pulled my other 100 apart and replaced the bearings. That motor was not maintained with after run, it was nasty inside.
Old 01-03-2017, 10:44 AM
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I connect my crankcase vent to a tube strapped to the muffler with the exit pointed toward the exhaust stream like acdii does. They are simple enough to make and the materials are cheap. All you need is a piece of flat brass strip and a piece of brass tubing. I form the slot for the tube around a drill bit the same size as the tube then form the strip around the muffler itself leaving an ear on each end sticking out.. Solder the tube in it's slot, drill a hole in the ears for a small screw to pass thru then install a small nut on the screw to clamp the assembly to the muffler and you're done.
Old 01-03-2017, 11:27 AM
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From my observations the flow is stop and go until about 4,000 rpm and then it is steadily outward. I don't think there is enough "in" to worry about. One of the advantages of the small tubing is that there is not enough time for a full stroke crankcase filling when the engine is running.

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Old 01-03-2017, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
I connect my crankcase vent to a tube strapped to the muffler with the exit pointed toward the exhaust stream like acdii does. They are simple enough to make and the materials are cheap. All you need is a piece of flat brass strip and a piece of brass tubing. I form the slot for the tube around a drill bit the same size as the tube then form the strip around the muffler itself leaving an ear on each end sticking out.. Solder the tube in it's slot, drill a hole in the ears for a small screw to pass thru then install a small nut on the screw to clamp the assembly to the muffler and you're done.
I like the idea of a strap like this, looks better than the Tie wraps I use, though I am surprised at how well they hold up to the heat of the muffler.
Old 01-03-2017, 02:35 PM
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Over the years I've had at least 10 four strokes of which all but 2 were Saitos (40 to 150). From the wealth of information posted here and the guidance of the 'Masters' of this sport on this forum, I've had pretty good luck with the tuning and maintenance of these engines. But recently I was faced with a situation that has me scratching my head.

A club member picked up a Cub with a FA-72 that had been run but was supposedly almost new. No history on how, or if, it had been broken in properly. It wasn't running very reliably (rough low end and a couple of deadsticks) so he brought it around to see if we could tune it up. Checked the gaps and reset them to spec (between .002 to .003). After backing the LSN out to something close to factory spec I started through the regular sequence of peaking the HSN and then very gradually leaning the LSN with small increments with the engine stopped. I was able to back the idle down some and was getting good response on quick acceleration although it was still tending to run ragged on the low end, much more so than I have seen on any of my other engines. After a few repeats of the sequence I happened to notice that the LSN was completely bottomed out.

So what's up here? It doesn't seem like the engine should be running at all at idle, let alone with smoother performance than we had when we started tuning in the first place. Any ideas?

Rick...
Old 01-03-2017, 03:13 PM
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I have had damaged seats with my TT54 4stroke . It couldnt be leaned out no matter what but that was the H.S. needle . I would say thats your issue but maybe with the low needle . Put some fuel tube on the fuel nipple and with the needles wound in and throttle back see if u can blow air in . If u can theres your prob.
Old 01-03-2017, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by the pope
I have had damaged seats with my TT54 4stroke . It couldnt be leaned out no matter what but that was the H.S. needle . I would say thats your issue but maybe with the low needle . Put some fuel tube on the fuel nipple and with the needles wound in and throttle back see if u can blow air in . If u can theres your prob.
Is there any tool that will reform/recut the needle seats to the original shape? Kinda like an end mill cut to the proper shape. Sounds like something handy to have. Thanks.
Old 01-03-2017, 05:26 PM
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It is possible that someone cranked down on the LSN and cracked the tube, IE spray bar. If so, it will never run right without replacing the carb.
Old 01-04-2017, 05:40 AM
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Two items on this page will fix you up, the idle needle, (actually a sleeve that slides in and out over the spray bar), and the spray bar itself.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/72-aac-w...3A-rr-saie072b

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Old 01-04-2017, 07:29 AM
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I'll have to pull the carb and have a look at the tube. It doesn't seem to be screwed that far in compared to the others I have so perhaps that's the problem. Before I pull it down I'll try the blowing in the fuel tube trick mentioned by 'The Pope'.
Old 01-04-2017, 07:48 AM
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Typical setting.
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Old 01-04-2017, 01:07 PM
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Mine was left at its original settings when mine went kaput too . I never wound mine all the way in except maybe when brand new . I imagine vibration could be at fault .
Old 01-05-2017, 05:07 AM
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Old 01-05-2017, 06:11 AM
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Hobbsy, are you back for good, or just visiting for the winter? Happy New Year to You and Yours
Old 01-05-2017, 06:56 AM
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Thanks Richard, the same to you and yours, the Hobbsy thing happened via some kind of magic and I'm OK with it. I'll have to do away with the other thing though.
Old 01-06-2017, 04:16 AM
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Dave you changed the bottom of your post is a minneapolis moline g1350 a new kinda custom harley?
Old 01-06-2017, 04:25 AM
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Yep, that's the new 585 cubic inch Turbo Diesel one.

Good morning Pete, I have a new CH Ignition system coming for the Saito 1.50, the old 1997 system Hall effect sensor was getting intermittent.
Old 01-06-2017, 04:49 AM
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This is an excerpt from LASER engine instructions, I like it, it's honest and spot on.

2. What are the needle settings for the carburettor?
There are no ‘correct’ settings for the carburettor. Each engine will have to be tuned to suit the specific installation. Other factors that affect tuning are propellers, glow plugs, fuel and atmospheric conditions. As a base setting set main needles to 2.5 turns and slow run needles to 6 turns on large single engines (120, 150, 155, 180) and 7 turns on small engines.
Old 01-06-2017, 09:27 AM
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The suction will be optimized by the way the pipe is cut. I'm sure it can be found easily with a search. I've seen a nicer look on a model that had copper tubing flush with the leading edge of the landing gear to pull the oil down and away from the fuselage bottom.
Old 01-06-2017, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Hobbsy
Thanks Richard, the same to you and yours, the Hobbsy thing happened via some kind of magic and I'm OK with it. I'll have to do away with the other thing though.
I'm reporting you!
Old 01-07-2017, 03:33 AM
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Hey quit stalking us or we'll all gang up and report you how are you mate?

Dave hope that ch ignition calms the 150 down a bit,would be good to see prop figures if you do them.

I've been spraypainting motorcycles for years and something unusual popped up the other day.It was ridden in by a big fully tatted (we call them tramp stamps here) guy and his attitude.It had a 350 chevy ls3 v8 in it and i reckon if you lift the seat you'll find an a4 sized hospital four star food menu guide..

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Old 01-07-2017, 03:43 AM
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Hey Pete, I'm good, in my book there is no such thing as too much compression, my old .80 is 15.5 to 1 and the 1.50 is 11.24 to 1. My neighbor has a bike with a 350 Chevy in it, it only has 280,000 miles on it. It rarely sits still. We are supposed to get in the neighborhood of 9 inches of snow today, got about an inch already. A good day to burn wood and read a good book.
Old 01-07-2017, 07:25 AM
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Or build a plane.

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