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Old 07-28-2017, 06:46 PM
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wow , I don't know what to say, I do know I would never treat an engine as nice as a Saito is like this guy does

Old 07-28-2017, 08:24 PM
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Is it missing 1/2 a prop blade ?
Old 07-28-2017, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Hobbsy
They don't get much better looking than the Royal Star 650 and 500, they were even firing if you thought of them as verticle boxers.
Dave i believe the poms renamed them for export to america.The red one looks like my old 650 lightning from 1970 and the blue one looks like a friends 500 daytona i used to ride.They bent pushrods on a regular basis and the 650 lightning suffered from a bronze bushing on the right hand crankshaft end.When it hit 4000 it had a nice flat bark to it.

Barry i'll bet that go kart was a lot of fun.Of course today they fit yamaha r1 engines to them in your neck of the woods google yamaha r1 go kart spotted by police car will get you started.
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Jim i don't think that muffler will be there for long.
Old 07-28-2017, 09:08 PM
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this is more the way it should be

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Old 07-29-2017, 03:39 AM
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Pete, if I remember correctly the Lightning Rocket 650 had a separate crankcase and gear box and the 500 and 650 Royal Star had an integral crankcase and gearbox.
Old 07-30-2017, 01:31 AM
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Dave there was a rocket gold star with a pre unit set up..gearbox and engine separate but from the early sixties onwards the engines were all unit construction,meaning gearbox and engine in one single case as we know them today.The first pic is of my old 1970 lightning as i remember it and the second is of a daytona 500 same year.If your son still does track days on his yamaha r1 and gets a bit enthusiastic and bin's it,may i suggest salvaging the engine for a go kart project?

Jim i can feel a 115 coming your way..
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I hope this is'nt too boring for you non racing rednecks
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Old 07-30-2017, 03:04 AM
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A friend in western Pa. had a BSA 441 Victor I rode a few times, it had a tremendous amount of torque. If you got a little enthusiastic on the 1-2 shift, it would lift the front wheel quite easily. The last time I saw it, it was under a pick up truck cap and nearly all the chrome was rusty. I'm sure it's part of the earth now. What a shame.
Woops, second picture is right. Well almost.
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Old 07-30-2017, 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by the Wasp
Hobbsy,, what a beautiful bike !!!!!!, they don't make them classy like that today !!!

Jim

They were nearly whisper quiet with the shown stock muffler, a lot of guys installed those gutless fishtail mufflers, what an obnoxious sound.

This is the 1.00 you might be interested in swapping for a 1.30, I can remove the V-stacks if you don't want them.
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Old 07-31-2017, 03:39 AM
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Rubbish dave the one's pictured below sound fine.Did you ever ride one? I liked the inlet tubes you made for the 100 flat twin first time i saw them,gives the engine a character look.Jim a quick joke for you.Do you remember dazzer the cane toad sitting in the dogs bowl? wishing his mate baz would come back...where are you mate
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Old 07-31-2017, 03:52 AM
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Sorry Pete, I was speaking of the Harley Hummer, you're right the 441 Victor did sound fine, the twins even better.

I have considered shortening the stacks on the 1.00, I have no clue how long they should be. I like the look too.
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Sorry Pete, I was speaking of the Harley Hummer, you're right the 441 Victor did sound fine, the twins even better.

I have considered shortening the stacks on the 1.00, I have no clue how long they should be. I like the look too. I borrowed the idea from the Saito 1.82.
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Old 08-01-2017, 02:56 AM
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I'm lucky to have a 182 twin dave it's in a hanger 9 82" taylorcraft and flies it well.Those carbs and that engine sure is pretty plus...having it mounted carbs down don't make any difference,they sound good even with full length flex pipes on the twin.

ps i forgot you meant fishtail pipes on two strokes,other than that they look pretty classy i reckon.
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And a big hello to you guys from one of the ducati pit girls,yes i know..
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The Saito Twins are awesome engines. I had not owned one, but I still have a OS 1.60 twin still. I always wanted one of the 1.70 or 2.00 Saito radial engines. But I never got one yet.

When I owned a BSA 441 Victor years ago, the weak link was the clutch. The high torque out of the engine tended to tear up the clutch drum and clutch discs. It would literally gouge and tear up the slots on the drum and tabs on the discs. Also the single ball bearing clutch drum support went bad on you often too. I do remember many a 441 Victor laid up rusting due to bad clutches and you couldn't get parts for them anymore after BSA went belly up.
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Originally Posted by the Wasp
wow , I don't know what to say, I do know I would never treat an engine as nice as a Saito is like this guy does

https://youtu.be/sO9aIXfpJzM?t=2
That is the video recorder artifacts causing the unusual movements like that. I have some video clips showing the propellers doing all sorts or weird shapes when a engine is running too. The engine is moving around but not as bad as the video clip makes it out as though.
Old 08-01-2017, 09:10 AM
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Default Saito 90TS Box Needed

Saito Fans. Anyone have an original box, for the Saito 90TS 4Stroke ? I need it for another 90TS just purchased. No box, instructions, exhaust, just the engine, New.

It should be able to fold to flat, fold again and mailed. I will pay what you need, shipping, etc. zip 37774 PayPal
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Old 08-01-2017, 09:18 AM
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Jim a quick joke for you.Do you remember dazzer the cane toad sitting in the dogs bowl? wishing his mate baz would come back...where are you mate
sorry OF, but I never have seen the two frogs before until you introduced them to me, LOL but I'm betting Pope knows them well LOL

LOL sorry Pope, truly !, but I just could not resist, it was just too funny, but on your account

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Saito Fans.
lets get this straight, these guys are not Saito Fans. they are Saito Freaks

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And damned proud of it!
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Old 08-01-2017, 03:54 PM
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New old airframe for the FG-11



And though not a Saito, it sure is purdy.


That is so weird, they showed up correctly when I clicked the attachment to get the url.
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The week point in the one I worked on and rode was the Woodruff key inside the clutch. It would eventually shear no matter how tight you got it.

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