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Old 06-29-2018, 12:25 AM
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Yawohl Kapitan Andy,it was mostly my fault.Talking saito's it's easy to get a bit excitable and confused here eg; as a five yr old i ate breakfast porridge out of a big glass bowl that had a barracuda fish printed on the bottom.His name was trigger and he had massive sharp teeth and a generally mean look about him,can't remember if trigger had a hockey stick or not,but he looked and sounded mean enough not to need one.Hope that helps.

Dave good to see your 90t gasket set showed up.

Barry call me whatever you feel comfortable with,bruce (acdc) had some funny suggestions and the scoundrel has posted one of my home movies above.
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Did he look like this guy? The origin of the screen name is I was the arena PA announcer for the team. Now, back on topic....I got a 3 cyl FG91 in my new Corsair, i run it in the driveway it sounds so cool


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First 10 minutes


After 10 minutes, a surprising amount left.
I had a 1.15 for a while, it was a fine engine for a while until the 1.25 came and the 1.15 lost it's place. When I was running at 4,000 rpm for the first 10 minute period black stuff came out of the vent, I investigated and found this, cosmoline maybe. Spelling? Spelling correct according to Wickipedia.

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Checking Mic. accuracy, spot on at .003"


Stock Saito Gasket at .008"


New aftermarket gasket at .008".
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Saito .30 with Graupner G-Sonic 10 x 6
Fuel===Wildcat 10% with 18% full synthetic
Plug==-OS-f
Prop==Graupner G-Sonic 10 x 6

Max rpm stock exhaust===10,440
Max rpm shorty black pipe=10,560

Max rpm with/40 sized TurboHeader==10,680

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I've had mostly new Saitos and I don't remember anything other than a coating of oil. True story- my NIB FA-30GK had a small rubber band inside of the rear cover.
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Dave, my 2004 FA 100 (never started) had a very tiny bit of dark grease on the inside of it's case, I thought maybe I would find it on the cam or on the crank pin, but I could not find it anywhere else, I don't think it was Cosmoline, it looked and felt just like the same Cam Lobe grease that came with the Crower cam I put in my Chevy 350 boat engine,

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Lottsa choices
I think that the grease is only intended to be in the big end of the rod, the 115 just had a little bit too much.
I use Fiske Brothers Lubriplate in bearings and on cams on engines I assemble. They have been around since 1870. I use their White Lithium in an aerosol can on rc rebuilds.

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Yep, that grease is just in place for protection till start up and the initial run.
The white lithium grease is just fine in most cases as well. In some applcations, over the years it does tend to dry out and cake up.Dont think that would be a problem with our engines stored at near room temperatures and fairly dry.

I have been using LPS grease (in the small can) for engines that I do not intend to run for some time after assembling. It protects well and does not dry out..

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Saito 1.30 sans exhaust


Saito 1.30TD with exhaust


Saito 90-T complete
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I got this set from Amazon yesterday, 100% genuine, polished, Chrome Vanadium. You're looking at the 12 mm wrench, the box end is a very sloppy 12 mm the open end is about 11.5 mm and will not go onto a 12 mm nut. I am going to see if I can return it.
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Default Is That an AAC or ABC 130

Also is it a T or TD model?
This one is an early ABC, TD model. Comes in at 1.12kg which is about 2lb 7.6 ounces of ancient weight.

The Saito 100T is also ABC and tips the scale to 815 grams or 1 pound, 12.8 ounces(gotta love the metric system!)

Too bad about the wrenches Always nice to actually see and handle tools before buying them.
I still prefer to buy only USA made hand tools with the exception of some European made tools.

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Is that chrome peeling off the wrench? The only tools I had that were great were Snap-On, very expensive and some a**-wipe stole them. Over $15K in hand tools gone in a flash. The were from my days as a Mechanic. The tools I replaced them with are crapsman, already broke at least a dozen of them and had to have them replaced. Stripped two ratchets as well.
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Yep, the chrome was peeling off with rust under it. I already have return label printed, full refund.

My 1.30 is a four glow plug AAC.

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Yep,
Snap On,Mac, Proto, Indestro, Williams, King Dick

Being brought through the trades on tools like those really can spoil one!
Still looking for a weight on the AAC 130
Both of mine are ABC dual plug as well


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This is happening behind my house right now.
The box has this written under the Hemi Head Four Stroke, Aluminum Cylinder, Aluminum Piston, Chrome plated. No mention of brass.
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That could

explain the weight difference Both of mine are positively ABC. Easy to see in the exhaust port.
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I always thought that a coating of copper was needed before chroming aluminum.
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I believe it is usually a zinc type or nickel substrate
Right now.......,,

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Too bad my workshop is a mess, or I could finish up my Somethin Xtra and go fly tomorrow, but no, nature had to dump 1 foot of rain on us last week. Still sucking up water and trying to get everything dried out, thankfully the water level is now just below the slab so it will stop seeping in.
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Forget the PO just do this.

https://www.micromark.com/Digital-Sc...b-5kg-Capacity

PS, I have many off their products, everything is first class.

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Originally Posted by acdii
Too bad my workshop is a mess, or I could finish up my Somethin Xtra and go fly tomorrow, but no, nature had to dump 1 foot of rain on us last week. Still sucking up water and trying to get everything dried out, thankfully the water level is now just below the slab so it will stop seeping in.
Yikes! Hope that doesnt happen again.
Is the Somethin Xtra the kit or ARF version? What engine? That is an old favorite.

Right now putting the finishing (rebuild) touches on my old Pica 1/5 Waco. Our club is having a "Twos" contest next Saturday. Putting a freshly rebuilt Saito 1.80 on it for now.
Tomorrow looks like a good flying day.
The Toledo Spl is charging up and a fresh gallon jug of homebrew fuel is set out.

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Originally Posted by Hobbsy
My 1.30 is a four glow plug ABC.
Are you sure?

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I thought I clarified that somewhere, it's an AAC TD.
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Well, I see you did an after quote edit
You had mentioned your label did not say brass but it was unclear until now, with the edit that yours is indeed AAC.

Thanks for the clarification

BTW, I think your comment regarding the PO and the scale were intended for RCG.
It didn't seem to fit until I read that thread.

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