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Thanks T, the IronBay uses a simple Schrader valve actuated by the diaphragm, both pressurize the tank to 2 to 9 psi using a check valve on the muffler pressure tap or crankcase of a two stroke. The pressure is enough to put a serious bulge in those stiff walled Sullivan tanks. Some go nutso putting cable ties on the fuel lines and fiber glass tape on the tank, none of that is needed. It's totally over kill.

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Hi, I have a Saito 82b in a Pawnee that I was flying today and the engine dead sticked and then restarted without glow. This happened to me twice. Just wondering if anyone knows why this would happen? Thanks

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Dave, it's very good to hear that you had a better day today (Saturday)
Captain, you can see the Cline in my link,, but as for the Iron bay unit for $95 it's price has jumped a lot, you can buy an OS 4 stroke regulator for like $75 and it's much smaller
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...fuel-regulator
oopps an edit> the Cline is not made any more
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Captain, you can see the Cline in my link,, but as for the Iron bay unit for $95 it's price has jumped a lot, you can buy an OS 4 stroke regulator for like $75 and it's much smaller
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...fuel-regulator
oopps an edit> the Cline is not made any more
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oopss, if you use an OS regulator you will need a one way pressure valve to tap from the back plate to pressurize the fuel tank, but for 4 stroke engines I really think you do not need much pressure in the tanks for the 4 strokes use so much less fuel than a 2 stroke
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Dave that's really really good news about geri hope she has a rapid recovery and is back driving the new red car soon.

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I've never experienced that but have read about it happening to other people,jim may be on the right track re engine to lean.Your not using heli fuel? it's bad juju for saito four strokes i reckon 
Dave that's really really good news about geri hope she has a rapid recovery and is back driving the new red car soon.

Dave that's really really good news about geri hope she has a rapid recovery and is back driving the new red car soon.


Dave i've also just bought a new car.It's a toyota aurion presara.Comes with a 260hp v6 and tiptronic sequential six speed gearbox.A friend who owns one said that could get addictive and he's right.Do you remember i told you every now and then i go harley hunting up in the hills on my ducati? well now i can straightline them on the freeways too.I like most harley riders,it's just a small percentage and generally younger group of posers wearing german ww2 helmets and skull masks,just love them

I use 10% nitro for relaxed sunday flying with 12% klotz synthetic and 3% castor.Your figures match mine with the fa82 plus 14x6 apc prop.

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Thanks again for all the encouraging and kind words.
That's a great looking car Pete, is it turbo charged to get that power? Thanks I can manually shift the Cruze's six speed but never have, it does well without my help.One thing that surprises me is the Cruze's 6,800 rpm red line.
That's a great looking car Pete, is it turbo charged to get that power? Thanks I can manually shift the Cruze's six speed but never have, it does well without my help.One thing that surprises me is the Cruze's 6,800 rpm red line.

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Without reading this whole thread which I plan on doing this winter I would like to know if anyone has ever got this engine to preform as should have and what are the secrets to it.
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what glow plug ??
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Mokie, Kolm sound on a Satio or ASP
Are there any after market muffler choices for Satios, ASP, EVO,
It seems logical that with right combination of stright pipe into large chamber, it should be possible to get
that rowdy Mokie sound out of any big 4 stroke
Anybody heard or read about any custom muffler project for 4 stroke ?
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Are there any after market muffler choices for Satios, ASP, EVO,
It seems logical that with right combination of stright pipe into large chamber, it should be possible to get
that rowdy Mokie sound out of any big 4 stroke
Anybody heard or read about any custom muffler project for 4 stroke ?
Thanks
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Jeff, there is Bisson and slimline,,,
Bisson Custom Mufflers
https://www.slimlineproducts.com/sai...ler-p/4013.htm
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Bisson Custom Mufflers
https://www.slimlineproducts.com/sai...ler-p/4013.htm
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well I would think that 87 is not lean on the high needle, in fact if that engine is broken-in I would say it's a bit rich, if it peeked at 92 then I would say fly it at 88 to 8850,, maybe the idle is too lean, how well does it start, a engine may start hard if the idle is too lean, I hope the other guys that have been flying Saitos for years and years reply about your problem..
what glow plug ??
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what glow plug ??
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They get better with time bg.Depending on tank level centre line height in the model relative to the carb i usually fly for about half a tank then land and tune for max rpm.Then come back two or three clicks on the main.Off a peak of 9200 you should be running around 8900 then.
No turbo charging dave.It's a 3.5ltr v6 with four valve heads and variable valve timing,toyota rate them at 200kw which is 268hp in the old language.It's monday arvo here and just got back from the tyre shop.The car now has michelin pilot sports,kinda like the ones on my ducati except there's twice as many,and these one's are square.How's geri coming along?
No turbo charging dave.It's a 3.5ltr v6 with four valve heads and variable valve timing,toyota rate them at 200kw which is 268hp in the old language.It's monday arvo here and just got back from the tyre shop.The car now has michelin pilot sports,kinda like the ones on my ducati except there's twice as many,and these one's are square.How's geri coming along?

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hey Pete, you know, my older brother owned a couple Harleys in his younger years, so he came over today and I show'ed him my Saito 1.15, well he said it reminds him of a Harley
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They get better with time bg.Depending on tank level centre line height in the model relative to the carb i usually fly for about half a tank then land and tune for max rpm.Then come back two or three clicks on the main.Off a peak of 9200 you should be running around 8900 then.
No turbo charging dave.It's a 3.5ltr v6 with four valve heads and variable valve timing,toyota rate them at 200kw which is 268hp in the old language.It's monday arvo here and just got back from the tyre shop.The car now has michelin pilot sports,kinda like the ones on my ducati except there's twice as many,and these one's are square.How's geri coming along?
No turbo charging dave.It's a 3.5ltr v6 with four valve heads and variable valve timing,toyota rate them at 200kw which is 268hp in the old language.It's monday arvo here and just got back from the tyre shop.The car now has michelin pilot sports,kinda like the ones on my ducati except there's twice as many,and these one's are square.How's geri coming along?

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She' pretty much back to being her old self, they already changed her to the Eloquis 10 mg pills, she'll be taking those for 7 days and then 5 mg for 6 months.
I have a Michelin 80/90 x 21 on the front, I can't say much about it except that it's on there.
Our respective engines sure run differently, the 1.4 litre Cruze engine makes makes max torque 179 foot pounds at 2,000 rpm and you engine makes 268 at 4,700, quite a difference in the the torque band.
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I have a Michelin 80/90 x 21 on the front, I can't say much about it except that it's on there.
Our respective engines sure run differently, the 1.4 litre Cruze engine makes makes max torque 179 foot pounds at 2,000 rpm and you engine makes 268 at 4,700, quite a difference in the the torque band.
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The doctor wanted to put my wife on Eliquis for her Afib but when she heard the $120 price WITH insurance. She told the doctor "no way". He switched her to Xarelto instead which works well for her. The Xarelto was just a $35 copay and I signed up online so the maker picks up part of her copay so her end cost is just $10 bucks! She also takes Plavix and an 81 mg asprin for her Afib and stents. She is up to 11 medications a day. She says she feels like a jelly bean jar.

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my wife (not yet 60) should have her knees replaced, but she is trying to get around that, doctors act like it's no big thing, but I guess they have to other wise it would dwell on them over time
oh don't do that Pete, it will give you bad luck if you do, besides that, you would have to buy a 2 stroke to replace it
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my wife (not yet 60) should have her knees replaced, but she is trying to get around that, doctors act like it's no big thing, but I guess they have to other wise it would dwell on them over time
oh don't do that Pete, it will give you bad luck if you do, besides that, you would have to buy a 2 stroke to replace it
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oh don't do that Pete, it will give you bad luck if you do, besides that, you would have to buy a 2 stroke to replace it
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Dave at first i thought you had pitched me a low ball and it hit me fair square in the you know where but i'd buy an OS/ASP fourstroke/lazer/kolm any day to a two stroke.I looked up your chevy cruze specs they are very impressive.Who could drive for more than 600 miles in one hit on highway cycle? and the nine speed auto sounds like the ducks nuts.As for my car i'm a glutton for revs but it's redlined at 6200.
Mike everybody i know loves jelly beans.You can take them with a really really nice home brewed coffee to make it a rewarding thing to do.Beats that starbucks crapola fast food joints dish up nowadays
Mike everybody i know loves jelly beans.You can take them with a really really nice home brewed coffee to make it a rewarding thing to do.Beats that starbucks crapola fast food joints dish up nowadays
