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Had a huge scare last night. Was going through my engine’s to decide what to build a plane around next and I couldn’t find the 120 dual plug that Dave sent me. Looked for an hour tell I found it in the box with the 120 fat head. Must have thought they would hook and get me a 220.
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Saito 220 with Iron Bay regulator. John at Iron Bay wasn't sure that the regulator would flow enough fuel for the 220 but it can and did. It also worked well on the little 30.
Gary, did you get a bottle of anti gravity from Amazon to keep the fuel levitated in the inverted tank? Thanks

Thanks Pete, I discovered that if you set an engine up perfectly with the tank half full, then mount a Cline or Iron Bay regulator absolutely nothing will change. This, with the engine upright of course.

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Originally Posted by Captcrunch44
Had a huge scare last night. Was going through my engine’s to decide what to build a plane around next and I couldn’t find the 120 dual plug that Dave sent me. Looked for an hour tell I found it in the box with the 120 fat head. Must have thought they would hook and get me a 220.

That would have been some mating. I had forgotten where that engine had gone, glad you found it.
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That would have been some mating. I had forgotten where that engine had gone, glad you found it.
yeah scared the heck of me too.
I did figure out what to build though.
a 96” Kadet senior would make a great test bed for some 120-180 size engine’s. Need to look at what you guys have come up with for a universal quick change engine mount
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Originally Posted by Captcrunch44

yeah scared the heck of me too.
I did figure out what to build though.
a 96” Kadet senior would make a great test bed for some 120-180 size engine’s. Need to look at what you guys have come up with for a universal quick change engine mount
You shouldn't need to change the mount to swap between a 120, 150 and 180. According to the link below the three engines only differ in height. The 125 is different enough that it probably would require a different mount, especially on a cowled plane.

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Originally Posted by Glowgeek
You shouldn't need to change the mount to swap between a 120, 150 and 180. According to the link below the three engines only differ in height. The 125 is different enough that it probably would require a different mount, especially on a cowled plane.

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yeah I have a Saito mount to start with. I plan to have an open engine. Even trying to figure out a quick and easy way for throttle hook up
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Gary, did you get a bottle of anti gravity from Amazon to keep the fuel levitated in the inverted tank? Thanks

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Wow, now that is quite a plumber's nightmare!

Naw Dave, it has one of those inflatable bladders in the tank. Ok for test stand flyers but I would never put one on a plane again
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I've seen a few ARFs equipped with regulators, most of those pilots say they find them useful due to bad tank location. I thought about trying one but haven't both mfgrs stopped producing them?
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Not once had an ARF that didn't run fine without
Another fine test stand for inverted engines. Always managed without the extra plumbing. Like they say: \"Where there's a will, there's a way".
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Not once had an ARF that didn't run fine without
Another fine test stand for inverted engines. Always managed without the extra plumbing. Like they say: \"Where there's a will, there's a way".
I haven't needed one either but it would nice if my 3D planes didn't have to run way fat with a full tank so they don't over lean when at 1/4 tank or less. Right now I don't feel comfortable hovering and hucking close to the deck for the first few minutes, until the engine is running with maximum throttle response, somewhere between 3/8 and 5/8 full, then I hit the deck for a while. After that I move to higher speed maneuvers to help cool the engine while it begins leaning. I tune with a 1/2 full tank and never prime an inverted engine. I don't need to be able to prime but it would be nice if I could for the initial start up. Aren't the regulators supposed to help with that too?

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I’m not very smart but what’s with the ground wire and do you go back to the battery with it?
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I’m not very smart but what’s with the ground wire and do you go back to the battery with it?

Notice the glow plug- like connection on the side of the fuselage? The black is indeed ground, the white wire at the rear goes to the plug tip.

The 115 is a stellar engine. Sure wish they still made them. Like to buy two more!
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I haven't needed one either but it would nice if my 3D planes didn't have to run way fat with a full tank so they don't over lean when at 1/4 tank or less. Right now I don't feel comfortable hovering and hucking close to the deck for the first few minutes, until the engine is running with maximum throttle response, somewhere between 3/8 and 5/8 full, then I hit the deck for a while. After that I move to higher speed maneuvers to help cool the engine while it begins leaning. I tune with a 1/2 full tank and never prime an inverted engine. I don't need to be able to prime but it would be nice if I could for the initial start up. Aren't the regulators supposed to help with that too?

A YS will fix all of that and more

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Originally Posted by Glowgeek
I've seen a few ARFs equipped with regulators, most of those pilots say they find them useful due to bad tank location. I thought about trying one but haven't both mfgrs stopped producing them?

The Cline is still available: https://www.alburyrcmodels.com.au/cl...control-system
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Originally Posted by Jesse Open


Wow, now that is quite a plumber's nightmare!

Naw Dave, it has one of those inflatable bladders in the tank. Ok for test stand flyers but I would never put one on a plane again

Not a plumbers nightmare at all. just a provision for a line from the fuel tank and a fill line. Common sense is all.
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Looks messy.

To each his own. Haven't yet needed one, doubt if I ever will.

A little uncommon sense and it can be avoided


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Thank you for that sir. $95? Yikes!

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A YS will fix all of that and more

Sure they will, because they have fuel regulators built in. I'd love to have a YS115 Warbird Special. That's some giddy-up right there.
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Yes, a well designed, compact and efficient package. All from a company that specializes and manufactures advanced fuel system components.
Designed from the git- go as a model engine fuel system. They the put it on an extremely well engineered engine. Fuel air supplied at above atmospheric pressure and positive case venting , excellent lubrication system.
A nicer package and when you subtract the price of Iron Bay, not that bad a price either.

(If you need and seek a well regulated fuel supply)
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Jim i should apologize right up front because i had you down as a tea drinking peanut butter sandwich man, how wrong was that? we used to light that stuff up in shot glasses, but ONLY after the engine had been reassembled i think
I had a laugh today, We were on our way home from camping today and stopped at a mexican restaurant for dinner. The seating had murals on every one and as we were sitting there I saw one where they were chopping the leaves off Agave plants. So I asked my daughter, what are those guys doing. She looked and said, Making Tequila. She's 14.

I'm so proud of her.
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Originally Posted by Captcrunch44
Had a huge scare last night. Was going through my engine’s to decide what to build a plane around next and I couldn’t find the 120 dual plug that Dave sent me. Looked for an hour tell I found it in the box with the 120 fat head. Must have thought they would hook and get me a 220.
LOL were you in the shed with Pete and that bottle


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I had a laugh today, We were on our way home from camping today and stopped at a mexican restaurant for dinner. The seating had murals on every one and as we were sitting there I saw one where they were chopping the leaves off Agave plants. So I asked my daughter, what are those guys doing. She looked and said, Making Tequila. She's 14.

I'm so proud of her.

LOL, it sounds like something my daughter would say, but she's going to be 28 soon

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$95 plus tax and shipping for a Cline, that's just crazy

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Thank you for that sir. $95? Yikes!
The site is in Australian, the URL tells me that and the shop address is in Lavington, New South Wales, Australia. If the price is $99 AUD it would exchange to about $ 68 USD. A bit of an improvement. I think I would contact Jim at the phone or email address listed in the photo on the site. The web address is defunct.
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Originally Posted by Glowgeek
I haven't needed one either but it would nice if my 3D planes didn't have to run way fat with a full tank so they don't over lean when at 1/4 tank or less. Right now I don't feel comfortable hovering and hucking close to the deck for the first few minutes, until the engine is running with maximum throttle response, somewhere between 3/8 and 5/8 full, then I hit the deck for a while. After that I move to higher speed maneuvers to help cool the engine while it begins leaning. I tune with a 1/2 full tank and never prime an inverted engine. I don't need to be able to prime but it would be nice if I could for the initial start up. Aren't the regulators supposed to help with that too?
Well said.

Gary one problem with this medium is that you can't read a persons face, just what they say, so it's easy to have a major case of misunderstanding the person, i may be suffering just that buddy ...i had you down as some self satisfied, smirking, loves the sound of his own voice public servant. Then i remembered what you do for a job so that shoots that down eh? tradesmen never needle people just for fun or do they? and did you paint that prop i asked you about or do they come like that, If so where can i buy one.

Ps jim the re brewed tequila is so potent that when our re distilling mate invites other pilots to his house for a bbq and drinks everyone labels and takes their own beer and spirits. I think he's having the last laugh.

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