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Old 09-16-2019, 01:45 AM
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Naw Pete,

You probably had it right. I wouldn't know. Best to leave that to those who wax judgemental.

The prop is a vacuumed plated APC.
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I believe Jim Cline passed away in 2009, then Mrs. Cline sold the business to Christian Traders who in turn passed it on to Albury. He would give you one free diaphragm a year. Glow fuel is hard on the diaphragms, they would last about 4 years when used with gasoline or Davis Diesel fuel.

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Old 09-16-2019, 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Captcrunch44 View Post

yeah scared the heck of me too.
I did figure out what to build though.
a 96” Kadet senior would make a great test bed for some 120-180 size engine’s. Need to look at what you guys have come up with for a universal quick change engine mount
A 96 inch Senior would be great fun!
I have a few Aluminum mounts to donate to the effort.
Let me know if you want them.
Old 09-16-2019, 03:23 AM
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I have the early 50 reassembled using it's original piston, ring, rod, crankshaft and cam. I replaced one valve with a used valve. The one I replaced had an uneven seat on the valve itself, I had a couple used ones that are perfect. New Boca Bearings, new lifters and new gaskets are about it. I'll use an original style muffler. I found a Bolly 11.5 x 6 prop. The why of it is that a 12 x 6 is perfect for the 56, an 11 x 6 is perfect for the 40/45, so the 50 gets an 11.5 x 6. That's my logic on that.

PS, it also gets a new Glo Devil plug for Saitos and Enya..
Old 09-16-2019, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Jesse Open View Post


A 96 inch Senior would be great fun!
I have a few Aluminum mounts to donate to the effort.
Let me know if you want them.
Gary that would be awesome. I have a Saito mount for the 120-180. I don’t have mounts for the 100 and 125.

Old 09-16-2019, 04:51 AM
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Those FA50 engines make peak horsepower at much higher rpm than any other Saito. Light prop loads and static rpm around 11250 works well according to the sceptreflight review below. Peak hp was seen at 12300 rpm! 11x6 or 12x6 is recommended. This is why I want one to try out, would love to hear a Saito scream like that!

SAITO FA-50

Also, looking forward to hearing how the Glow Devil plug works out. Any chance you can compare with an OS and Saito plug on the same engine?

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Old 09-16-2019, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Captcrunch44 View Post


Gary that would be awesome. I have a Saito mount for the 120-180. I don’t have mounts for the 100 and 125.

I will pull them out when I get home. Meanwhile, PM your address and they go out next PO run.
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Originally Posted by Jesse Open View Post

I will pull them out when I get home. Meanwhile, PM your address and they go out next PO run.
cool
pm sent.
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Originally Posted by Glowgeek View Post
Those FA50 engines make peak horsepower at much higher rpm than any other Saito. Light prop loads and static rpm around 11250 works well according to the sceptreflight review below. Peak hp was seen at 12300 rpm! 11x6 or 12x6 is recommended. This is why I want one to try out, would love to hear a Saito scream like that!

SAITO FA-50

Also, looking forward to hearing how the Glow Devil plug works out. Any chance you can compare with an OS and Saito plug on the same engine?

I certainly can, I've done that often enough to know there is never any difference. But will do it again. And the Fox Miracle too.

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Old 09-16-2019, 05:32 AM
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Glow plugs lol
i use what ever I can get my hands on. Even the ones that i thought were bad that I have tossed in my box and I will dig them out later and put them back in and wonder why I changed it.
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I keep my glow plugs organized by type and use in zip loc bags. There is one labeled "break in". It has assorted types. Once idling becomes erratic on a good running engine the plug gets recycled into my break in bag. As far as I can remember I've never burned out a plug in a good running/broke in engine; I never run them that lean and keep up with the health of my fueling systems.

FYI, my organizational skills have been directly proportional to my loss of memory. These days I'm becoming very organized.

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Old 09-16-2019, 09:49 AM
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I always get hammered for saying this but nobody has ever proven me wrong, but when it comes to four stroke plugs there just isn't any stand out unless it would be the Fox Miracle Plug. Put it in any engine and it works very well. It's also the best medicine anyone ever gave to an MDS engine.
Old 09-16-2019, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Hobbsy View Post
I always get hammered for saying this but nobody has ever proven me wrong, but when it comes to four stroke plugs there just isn't any stand out unless it would be the Fox Miracle Plug. Put it in any engine and it works very well. It's also the best medicine anyone ever gave to an MDS engine.
Have to agree on that. I grab all the Fox plugs I can when I find them. It's the only plug that hasn't failed on me.
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Fox miracles are made from unobtainium these days.
Old 09-16-2019, 11:13 AM
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Thats why I grab every one I can.
Old 09-16-2019, 12:15 PM
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Here's a beautiful looking high wing plane.

Black Horse Fairchild Model 24 Argus 2357mm (92.79") Wingspan - ARF



Out of Stock but here's a link anyway. https://www.motionrc.com/products/bl...gus-2357mm-arf
Old 09-16-2019, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Glowgeek View Post
I keep my glow plugs organized by type and use in zip loc bags. There is one labeled "break in". It has assorted types. Once idling becomes erratic on a good running engine the plug gets recycled into my break in bag. As far as I can remember I've never burned out a plug in a good running/broke in engine; I never run them that lean and keep up with the health of my fueling systems.

FYI, my organizational skills have been directly proportional to my loss of memory. These days I'm becoming very organized.

Pretty similar here. A bad plug event is extremely rare. The Enya #3, OS "F" and Merlins all behaved well.
Old 09-16-2019, 12:28 PM
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Is there a dog in this thread I thought I heard an "ARF"?
Old 09-16-2019, 01:17 PM
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Laser cut short kits and scale plans are available for the Argus. You never know, it might be something acdii would like to cut.

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Thanks for the tip. A great looking plane indeed.
And , yes, you would love that YS for your style of flying.
The fuel system is first class.
Crunch, these are the mounts I have on hand. The middle one is Swiss cheesed but looks like a fit.
Will go out this week.

Okie,

A pic of the props, also heading out this week. Some real nostalgia

Dave,

Have a real good look at the landing gear block on that Rascal 110. Can't say if they changed them on later versions but I just saw one pop out on Saturday. The block is thick but only the same size as the mating gear footprint. It is barely glued into cutouts in the fuselage sides with two short tri-stock pieces glued on top.

If it is that way on yours, you may think about refining it a bit.

BTW , Nice job on the 50.

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I see that oldtime Top Flite logo!
Old 09-16-2019, 06:40 PM
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any one try a K&B 4 St plug ??

I have a couple NIP

Jim
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Thanks Gary, I'll check it out, Sig is so far cold shouldering me on the crushed cowl top, Becky says the tech is gong to contact me but he doesn't. So far she has sent him an E-mail and then a reminder E-mail.
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Makes me wonder what the Future of SIG will be. I noticed the lack of participation by the owners the past couple years at the yearly event. Will see.
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Finally got the engine installed with a couple of flyes already.


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