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Old 12-09-2019, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesse Open
Would you like a FA-120 "Kit" ?

Sure, why not, Thanks
Old 12-09-2019, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Captcrunch44
let me check I might have one for a 91
And yes the needle valve will fit in the 120,150 and 180
What are you waiting for? PM me your address so I can send the carb. LOL
Okie is looking for an engine (91 or 100) iirc

Lonnie, that 115 I gave away did need some attention.
Old 12-09-2019, 05:31 PM
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Gary pm sent

OKC. What do you want a 91 or a 100
Old 12-09-2019, 08:24 PM
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swapping engines:
I sent Mike (FlyerInOKC) the FA82 I got from Capt, Mike PM'ed me today telling me he received the engine.

Garry, would you have another FA 100 Carb Body you want to sell ??? let me know.

Jim
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Right now I doubt I can afford either one but that said I'm thinking the 100 would have an edge in the HP department but the 91 is a little lighter and shorter so it would fit a little easier inverted under a cowling. The .91 being older may be a little affordable so I would say probably the .91. If the price were the same I would pick the 1.00 because of the power advantage. I already have a .82 which comes close in power to the .91. Who was it that said all airplanes are an exercise in compromise?
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I just know we over power the snot out of planes
you want a real challenge fly a under powered plane for fun
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Originally Posted by Captcrunch44
I just know we over power the snot out of planes
you want a real challenge fly a under powered plane for fun
Half throttle beats half power. Half power makes balsa piles.
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I try to balance power according to the aircraft's weight, wing load, and drag with a healthy amount of reserve power to get me out of pilot screw ups. I prefer glow to gas in spite of amount of fuel glow uses.
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A good example is I have a 1/4 scale Globe Swift project (AUW 21 to 32 lbs.) that shows a gas engine on the plan I will use a large glow engine to power it.
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Originally Posted by Hyjinx
Half throttle beats half power. Half power makes balsa piles.
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thatís exactly what I am saying the majority of the majority of the builders put 3 times the power that they need on a plane. Me included.
but I flew a under powered trainer this summer and it is humbling. I think if you can fly an under powered plane then you can fly anything.
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Originally Posted by Hyjinx
Half throttle beats half power. Half power makes balsa piles.
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
I try to balance power according to the aircraft's weight, wing load, and drag with a healthy amount of reserve power to get me out of pilot screw ups. I prefer glow to gas in spite of amount of fuel glow uses.
That's where I'm at too. And if the plane needs nose weight I'll always opt to put in a bigger saito or an OS of equal displacement in place of a saito.
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I don't like over powering by that much of a margin but I do overpower. It has saved an airplane or two.
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Thats what I was hoping to do with the Liberty Sport, but I built it too well for the Gemini as the tail did not come out as heavy as expected. Would have needed 7 ounces to counter the weighty 120. Had to settle for a YS 63S only because it fit the cowl, a Saito would have been too long.
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Originally Posted by Hyjinx
Half throttle beats half power. Half power makes balsa piles.
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Bad pilots make balsa piles.
Learning low power makes good pilots better pilots.
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Originally Posted by acdii
Thats what I was hoping to do with the Liberty Sport, but I built it too well for the Gemini as the tail did not come out as heavy as expected. Would have needed 7 ounces to counter the weighty 120. Had to settle for a YS 63S only because it fit the cowl, a Saito would have been too long.
Good to know!
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As can be seen the Saito 60-t has considerable side thrust on the rockers when the valves are actuated. Does anybody have one where they can show me the stacking order of the washers/spacers for keeping the rockers in place. I took the liberty of placing the Teflon washers on the non thrust side and a metal on each side of each rocker.



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Originally Posted by Jesse Open
Bad pilots make balsa piles.
Learning low power makes good pilots better pilots.
​​​​​​Well said. Incorrect set up is definitely a rough way to learn (or maintain skills) but it is common it seems for many. A challenge is good for some. There's a guy in our group that won't use expo on his radio for the same reason. He is sure it makes him better than he thinks he is. He's a great pilot but buys a lot of airframes.
Balance and power aren't good training challenges for me. But that's just me.
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Teflon washer on non side thrust side.

Note huge vent hole.
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Out of all the planes I have built, only one was a poor flyer, mainly because I screwed the CG up badly. Almost had it down gracefully too, then it looked like an aileron went south and I lost it.
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The wrong CG can sure make a flight exciting fast!
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Old boy at the club once, he was not much of a flyer.
Asked if I could put this up for him and he would fly it for a bit then I could land it. Now I seen this plane fly a week ago and it flew ok. RIGHT!! This plane left the ground with itís tail dragging I had to push the nose down to get the air speed up just so I could clime out enough to get it turned around and back to land it mind you I had just taken off I was 4 feet above the tall grass, how I managed to keep it in the air, get it up high enough so I could land it I will never know but I did. This thing was a flat turning none flying piece of crap Biplane that I have ever had this misfortune to get to fly. He ask for the transmitter and I said no I need to land it. I explained the situation to him as Iím bringing it in for a landing and he says oh maybe I should a left the other prop on.
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Originally Posted by Captcrunch44
thatís exactly what I am saying the majority of the majority of the builders put 3 times the power that they need on a plane. Me included.
but I flew a under powered trainer this summer and it is humbling. I think if you can fly an under powered plane then you can fly anything.

is that enough LOL

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Originally Posted by William Robison
And here it is in numeric order:

1 SigMan
2 khodges
3 William Robison
4 GLflyer
5 hobbsy
6 Fly Nexstar
7 w8ye
8 capin
9 LaCerne
10 edgeman55-RCU
11 cloudancer03
12 donkey doctor
13 Julian537
14 blwblw
15 aerobatixkid
16 guerjac
17 Flyer95
18 Edwin
19 IronCross
20 wcmorrison
21 proptop
22 balsa brain
23 gjeffers
24 FlyingPilgrim
25 rc_skychief
26 flycfii
27 Mike 1
28 Ernie Misner
29 old bird
30 The PIPE
31 coveredup
32 FallingWithStyle
33 UltimateFlyer12
34 tukkus
35 seanychen
36 udi maman
37 grumpE
38 kliff
39 sdcranford
40 futaba1024
41 henryviii1973
42 PLANE JIM
43 av8r1
44 Owild1
45 Ed Moorman
46 rangerman
47 JWN
48 Texastbird
49 Fuelman
50 Genesis_twin
51 up
52 Ed Cregger
53 AHPowelson
54 salto1
55 ljones5000
56 bigphil
57 GSNut
58 aircowboy
59 Dave A
60 a340
61 N1EDM
62 Kmot
63 [email protected]
64 dpcrowne
65 kompara
66 GONE2THERIVER
67 Dennis Flora
68 Meesh
69 Smallfly
70 solafein
71 Tom Jones
72 locolobot
73 dammitman
74 B. Wildered
75 mscic-RCU
76 gnirwin
77 desmobob
78 proulxlaw
79 DiscoWings
80 RWLEWIS-SR
81 iflynething
82 XJet
83 JLNewc
84 ricfly52
85 skd11
86 vicarh
87 Norm Nestie
88 jojobajim
89 peejay
90 jlkonn
91 rrw71
92 FJ-Air
93 tailskid
94 Thunderchild
95 mtnmnstr
96 Jai Williams
97 Cedarridgetom
98 out of money
99 ron ron
100 rfan_1
101 swede-RCU
102 Chrille
103 car147

Bill.

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The early Club Saito roster from 09/07/2005
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Cool, I've learned a lot from some folks on that list.

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