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Old 03-24-2020, 03:33 PM
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Beautiful radio, Jesse. That looks in mint condition. As they say, real radios glow!

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Originally Posted by N1EDM
Beautiful radio, Jesse. That looks in mint condition. As they say, real radios glow!

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I was "thinking" the same thing but we don't want to feed the stray cat.

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Hey guys. New the the forum. I hope I am not hijacking a thread here. I have been flying Saitos for 20 plus years now. I have them now in 15 planes from 40's up to soon to be 300's..I have an issue with one of my 300's though. I bought it used and it has a bent left intake manifold. I tried to take the dent out gently with a rounded rod and ended up cracking the tube/brass. I can't seem to find a manual that shows the part number for the FA 300T (single carb) version. I actually have 2 of these engines and both of them have different intake manifolds. Found all kinds of stuff on the TL and TTDD I believe it is but nothing on the single carb. Anything would help.....
Old 03-24-2020, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by acdii
100% compatible with Randolph. I just don't need an entire quart to do the top wing.
What color are you needing? I have various sitting around.
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Originally Posted by GraniteGuru
Hey guys. New the the forum. I hope I am not hijacking a thread here. I have been flying Saitos for 20 plus years now. I have them now in 15 planes from 40's up to soon to be 300's..I have an issue with one of my 300's though. I bought it used and it has a bent left intake manifold. I tried to take the dent out gently with a rounded rod and ended up cracking the tube/brass. I can't seem to find a manual that shows the part number for the FA 300T (single carb) version. I actually have 2 of these engines and both of them have different intake manifolds. Found all kinds of stuff on the TL and TTDD I believe it is but nothing on the single carb. Anything would help.....
Look up Mac Gregors in Britain. They do well at supplying parts for older Saitos.
I can probably braze that tube for you. There is a method to reform tubes that is much like that used in making brass musical instruments .

Maybe can help you out if you cannot find parts.

Let me know.


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I'll try them. I tried to bend a tube that I got from Mcmaster Carr. Even went so far as to buy some special "solder" to fill the tube so I could bend it. I ended up wasting 75 dollars on brass tube and solder but kept cracking the tub. Very frustrating. It has a collar brazed to it which is beyond my capability to assemble or make. I appreciate the offer. Let me see what I can find. I don't even know how old these engines are.
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Those collars or flanges are turned from brass and silver brazed in place. Not all that hard to accomplish, just a matter of equipment on hand.

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Old 03-25-2020, 02:20 AM
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The Saito engine code for the 300-T is V, the code for the 300TTDP is W

Is this a maybe: https://www.horizonhobby.com/intake-...Az-sai300tl69a and Sai300TL70b

Hobby Plastic: https://www.hobbyplastic.co.uk/index...6g0ph6qsndo043

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Dave,

You know your way around those Saito parts lists very well indeed!
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Thanks Gary, but I don't think I helped him much.
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Good info never hurts. Didn't we have another fellow recently looking for a 270 intake pipe?
IIRC, he did find a 300 pipe that he could not use. May need to look back
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Originally Posted by Jesse Open
Those collars or flanges are turned from brass and silver brazed in place. Not all that hard to accomplish, just a matter of equipment on hand.
Do you fill the tubing with hot sand before bending? And where do you find the metric nuts?
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Originally Posted by Jesse Open
Good info never hurts. Didn't we have another fellow recently looking for a 270 intake pipe?
IIRC, he did find a 300 pipe that he could not use. May need to look back
MacGregor's may have two 270 parts, no help for him though.
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It looks like he found the 300 pipes but not 270.
That may be a big help.

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some of the parts i need are the carb intake tubes and i see them for the 300 but not the 270
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Well, just to be sure because all the moving parts can mask issues I tore it down and sure as Snot from a running nose, the front bearing is toast. the rear wasn't much better. The crankcase is cooling down after the rear extraction. I find my paint removal gun, the some one I use to shrink covering with, I don't use those wimpy hair dryers for dolls for my covering, works really good to heat the crankcase up until is starts to smoke and then a good few womps on the workbench pops the bearing right out. I use an ov glove to hold the crankcase so I can slam it down without burning my hand.
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No doubt you feel a lot better too!

I was just going thru som stuff that was on the workbench . I set aside some soft and some hard silver solder, intended to ship it to "someone". After some head scratching, and your recent mention of the Liberty Sport, a fuzzy memory emerged. Was that solder for you? If it was, just let me know and please forward your address.

Now, get back to that 100!
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Yes it was! Also to answer your other question, it is Lemon Yellow that I am waiting for.

OK, I want to clean this up before I put the new bearings in, so what can I use to clean it well? Been using Denat alcamahol, but not cutting it.
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Originally Posted by acdii
Yes it was! Also to answer your other question, it is Lemon Yellow that I am waiting for.

OK, I want to clean this up before I put the new bearings in, so what can I use to clean it well? Been using Denat alcamahol, but not cutting it.
I recommend an ultrasonic cleaner with a 50/50 mix of LAs totally awesome cleaner & distilled water. My preferred method over the crockpot & antifreeze method now. Its quick and easy.



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I'll have to get one. I have LA Awesome, but used lacquer thinner this go round. Just got the bearings installed. Front bearing I lined up using the crank, and used my drillpress to slide it in so it went in straight. The rear I just heated the case up nice and hot and slid the bearing onto the crank, and it dropped right in. Nice and smooth now. Now to get some gasket measurements and reassemble it.
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I got it all back together and put a prop on, and now it feels very tight, doesn't spin freely now that the prop is on. It's smooth, but I think something didn't seat well. Back apart it goes.
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Originally Posted by acdii
I got it all back together and put a prop on, and now it feels very tight, doesn't spin freely now that the prop is on. It's smooth, but I think something didn't seat well. Back apart it goes.
Just remember the old saying:


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Didn’t think it was possible to over tighten the prop shaft but apparently that’s what I did give it a whack with a dead blow and now it’s good
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Cool! It looks great!
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Looks like I might be able to run it this weekend if it isn't raining too much, but all week it is supposed to rain.

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