Notices
Glow Engines Discuss RC glow engines

Welcome to Club SAITO !

Old 10-06-2020, 07:14 AM
  #48376  
My Feedback: (6)
 
FlyerInOKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 14,238
Received 281 Likes on 243 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Jesse Open
Good 3D print project
I agree he did a beautiful job I was surprised he let it go. Here are a couple of more pictures so you can see the backside. The crankcase butts up against the cam cover of the .80 so it will need to be trimmed away from the engine and a circular mount installed in the cowling. Its a model of a 1916 Clerget 9B engine.


he let it go.
Old 10-06-2020, 08:57 AM
  #48377  
 
Jesse Open's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: 30 Miles North of Canada Border
Posts: 3,856
Received 95 Likes on 87 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Monty Python
Dave people running cars on moonshine i can believe, i've heard that way back during the war people ran cars on kerosene.

Mike the first pink panther movie was made in 1963 which would make that cat 57 years old, he's entitled to a few wrinkles.

Pete,

My first Model A Ferd that I got in 1965 came from an old German dude who owned it thru WW2 in fact he was the original owner.
He had a two gallon can hanging under the hood from the radiator support rods. That was his "wartime start can" The fuel on those old Ferds was gravity fed from a cowl tank, there was a shut off valve and mixture control in the cab on the passenger side.

During the war he had kerosene in the main tank and gasoline in the start tank. Main fuel off, he would start on gasoline and once warmed he would shut of the start tank and turn on the main tank to run on kerosene. The mixture easily tuned by the in dash mixture knob. The idle and spark timing easily set by two levers on the steering column.
Got him thu the war

Last edited by Jesse Open; 10-06-2020 at 09:40 AM.
Old 10-06-2020, 09:40 AM
  #48378  
My Feedback: (102)
 
Hobbsy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Colonial Beach, VA
Posts: 20,370
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Glowgeek
My FA100

APC 15x6 (sport)
15% nitro/ 17.5% oil
Peak 9540
Idle 1780-1800
1.899 hp (calculated)
Saito 100 GK, barely broken in
Fuel======Wildcat 10% with 18% full syn.
Plug======Glo-Devil 4c special
Exhaust===stock cast
AP max rpm==9,470
Idle====rpm==1,760
Xoar 15 x 6 max rpm 9,270
Idle not checked
The 100 has a nice clean midrange, nice and smooth at all rpm.
Old 10-06-2020, 10:00 AM
  #48379  
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 3,648
Received 65 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

Nice numbers on 10% Dave. Yes, very clean in the midrange. It is the only saito I've had overheat and deadstick repeatedly at 1/2-3/4 throttle. It was in a TF P51. Just something to watch out for in cowled airplanes, extra airflow needed for the 100.

Last edited by Glowgeek; 10-06-2020 at 02:11 PM.
Old 10-06-2020, 03:48 PM
  #48380  
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 3,648
Received 65 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

Flights today went well. The 180 ran flawless of course but my friend forgot his radar gun. We estimated the Jug was topping out at about 60 mph. Maybe he'll remember the gun next time, maybe not. He's 81 and has a terrible case of CRS.
Old 10-06-2020, 04:31 PM
  #48381  
 
Jesse Open's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: 30 Miles North of Canada Border
Posts: 3,856
Received 95 Likes on 87 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
Gary, I thought a little preview was in order. This photo is just for you. I'm sorry it isn't located further out yet, I need to trim the dummy engine to clear the Saito .80.

Mike

Still planning on building the Andrews Aeromaster 2 kit I shipped to you
Old 10-06-2020, 04:34 PM
  #48382  
My Feedback: (49)
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Orland ParkIllinois
Posts: 83
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Captcrunch44
Well finely got the 180 on a plane.
now time to go have some fun.

So back to your Sig Extra 300 XS. I had one for several years. It was one of my best flying planes. Wish I still had it. How did it go? If you know anyone who happens to have one for sale please let me know. Should have never sold it. I have a Saito 1.80 sitting here for it.
Old 10-06-2020, 05:17 PM
  #48383  
My Feedback: (6)
 
FlyerInOKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 14,238
Received 281 Likes on 243 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Jesse Open
Still planning on building the Andrews Aeromaster 2 kit I shipped to you
Actually have a confession to make. I have an old retired friend (its his Pete N Poke I received to finish as the Pink N Poke) who saw the kit and asked to build it. It will be his 14th Aeromaster he has built. So I gave it to him as his winter build. Ken builds a lot faster than I do so it will probably have it flying this summer! In his younger days he would have built it in a month, he did as much on a number of its predecessors. I will get pictures and a video when he has it finished and it can make its maiden flight. I hope I feel up to building this winter but I'm not certain and I want to see the Aeromaster fly.

I have doctor's appointment on 10/13, 10/14, and a nuclear test on 10/15 with more tests to be determined on 10/14. I'm really getting sick of being sick. The wife is going to spend one more night in the hospital and my son will pick her up tomorrow, he is a paramedic and knows how best to get her in/ot of the car. He is also more able bodied than myself and can support her weight if need be. It was decided she needed a little more recovery time before she came home and had to depend on me.
Old 10-06-2020, 06:09 PM
  #48384  
 
Jesse Open's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: 30 Miles North of Canada Border
Posts: 3,856
Received 95 Likes on 87 Posts
Default

This looked familiar, his name being Ken as well
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...by-LOU-ANDREWS

Last edited by Jesse Open; 10-06-2020 at 06:12 PM.
Old 10-06-2020, 06:45 PM
  #48385  
Senior Member
My Feedback: (2)
 
Outrider6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Metro Atlanta GA, USA
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
Received 36 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by doubledcom
So back to your Sig Extra 300 XS. I had one for several years. It was one of my best flying planes. Wish I still had it. How did it go? If you know anyone who happens to have one for sale please let me know. Should have never sold it. I have a Saito 1.80 sitting here for it.
I used to have buddy that had one. I used to drool over that plane. I think he had a YS 120 in it, and it flew great. I imagine a Saito 180 would make it phenomenal.

I would love to have one too. I saw one for sale a month or two ago, for about $450. It was still in the box. If I could have, I would have jumped on it then. I don't recall where I saw it. Probably either here or on ebay.
Old 10-06-2020, 08:11 PM
  #48386  
My Feedback: (6)
 
FlyerInOKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 14,238
Received 281 Likes on 243 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Jesse Open
This looked familiar, his name being Ken as well
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...by-LOU-ANDREWS
That south end of a north bound mule played me!
Old 10-07-2020, 12:38 AM
  #48387  
Senior Member
 
Monty Python's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 145
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Capt have you test flown the extra 300 with the fa180 in it? i'd like to hear your comments. I ask because i had one of a similar size with an fa220 zues in it.

Gary the pics of mikes 1916 rotary clerget 9b engine look nice. I used to paint cars cheaply for family but they kept selling them to make money so i understand your reasons for passing your home machine shop on BUT!!...do you think it would be feasable to make a prop driver for mike's fa saito that would be able to spin the nice looking fake radial ??

Mike good luck, i seem to remember dave having a nuclear test some time back. I remember that my dad had a test where they inject gold into your bloodstream and then a cat scan i think. I'm tying to figure out how i can get one and keep the gold, it's $2400 an ounce here now and with my level of health insurance i plan to get every gram they can shoot in me.
Old 10-07-2020, 03:21 AM
  #48388  
My Feedback: (102)
 
Hobbsy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Colonial Beach, VA
Posts: 20,370
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Mike, it's good to read that you and your Missus are coming along.

S&W fuels are quick, it's coning by UPS today.

Petey, maybe if you got a gold magnet and peed on it you could recover the gold that way. That would give you a reason to drink some Ole Frothingslosh.
Old 10-07-2020, 05:52 AM
  #48389  
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Capron, IL
Posts: 10,002
Received 97 Likes on 88 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Jesse Open
This looked familiar, his name being Ken as well
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...by-LOU-ANDREWS

Thats cold man, just cold. I have a code, if I can't use it, let someone else have it. Not in reference to Mike, I understand his situation, but the guy he gave it to? If he wasn't going to build it, give it back. I was given a few planes about 10 years ago, I haven't flown them, did consider selling, but it just feels wrong to do that. Only reason I considered selling the big one is I would rather someone who knows how to fly that type fly it than me crash it. It's a huge CARF Extra 330L. I may still rebuild it and fly it some day, just needs better servos, a few of the JR that were in it failed when I put them in the Rascal. He also gave me a Funtana 90S, but set up with a Hacker which needs 6S batteries, and I just can't bring myself to buy an expensive battery for it. I may sell or trade the Hacker for a decent Saito115 if I can find one, then I can fly the plane.

BTW Gary, thanks for the package, got it yesterday, will put it to good use. Message me if I can paypal you the shipping cost.
Old 10-07-2020, 06:25 AM
  #48390  
My Feedback: (6)
 
FlyerInOKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 14,238
Received 281 Likes on 243 Posts
Default

I'm not happy about it but I can't dwell on it the aggravation makes the chest pain come back. I don't watch TV anymore the same reason, all the political BS commercials from both sides makes my blood boil.
Old 10-07-2020, 06:42 AM
  #48391  
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Capron, IL
Posts: 10,002
Received 97 Likes on 88 Posts
Default

Don't. Not worth it.

I went to my buds house last night to drop off the laser cut profile kit of a P-39. It is a copy from a WWII kit that was made for putting together ID planes. He is going to compare to the original he has and see how it works. While I was there I decided to bring my Citabria home to finish it. It is fully built and covered, and at the point where it needs radio gear, and struts. Hard to work on since most of what I need is in boxes in my shop and not at his barn. Going to work on plastic models there instead when we have hobby nights. It has a Saito 46 in it.
Old 10-07-2020, 07:08 AM
  #48392  
My Feedback: (6)
 
FlyerInOKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 14,238
Received 281 Likes on 243 Posts
Default

Cool!

I covered an aileron in pink last night.
Old 10-08-2020, 05:36 AM
  #48393  
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 3,648
Received 65 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

Close call at the field yesterday, servos wigging out on the P-47 when the gear was deployed. Almost rekitted it on the first flight of the day. Bad battery or bad RX, maybe a bad connection. While investigaring that It's a good time to see how many screws the vibrator (FA180) loosened up as I've already lost a wheel and several canopy screws. Even leaned out the 180 vibrates a lot more than my smaller 4 strokes.
Old 10-08-2020, 06:06 AM
  #48394  
 
Jesse Open's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: 30 Miles North of Canada Border
Posts: 3,856
Received 95 Likes on 87 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Glowgeek
Close call at the field yesterday, servos wigging out on the P-47 when the gear was deployed. Almost rekitted it on the first flight of the day. Bad battery or bad RX, maybe a bad connection. While investigaring that It's a good time to see how many screws the vibrator (FA180) loosened up as I've already lost a wheel and several canopy screws. Even leaned out the 180 vibrates a lot more than my smaller 4 strokes.
Are the gear electric?
Old 10-08-2020, 06:14 AM
  #48395  
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 3,648
Received 65 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

JR 791 retract servos driving Robart retracts on 4.8v 1500 mah NiMh.
Old 10-08-2020, 06:33 AM
  #48396  
My Feedback: (6)
 
FlyerInOKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 14,238
Received 281 Likes on 243 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Glowgeek
Close call at the field yesterday, servos wigging out on the P-47 when the gear was deployed. Almost rekitted it on the first flight of the day. Bad battery or bad RX, maybe a bad connection. While investigaring that It's a good time to see how many screws the vibrator (FA180) loosened up as I've already lost a wheel and several canopy screws. Even leaned out the 180 vibrates a lot more than my smaller 4 strokes.
Sounds like a very close call indeed!
Old 10-08-2020, 07:17 AM
  #48397  
My Feedback: (102)
 
Hobbsy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Colonial Beach, VA
Posts: 20,370
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Lonnie, I thought you had some 115 numbers here somewhere. Here are mine for today.

Saito 115 with new Boca bearings, new piston ring, new gaskets, new valves, springs and retainers.
Compression very soft before the run, had me worried.
Run of 40 minutes and 14 oz of fuel. Wildcat 10% 18% full syn.
Plug======Glo-Devil 4c
Exhaust===stock cast.
Prop======Xoar 15 x 7
Max steady rpm=8,680 steady and sustainable.
Idle 2,000
Compression after the run, awesome, you can't turn the prop driver, not even slowly.

The S&W 15% with 17% full syn. came yesterday, it's next.



It made a ton of oil

I received two extra beautiful Xoar.s
Old 10-08-2020, 07:31 AM
  #48398  
My Feedback: (6)
 
FlyerInOKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 14,238
Received 281 Likes on 243 Posts
Default

DROOL! I'm green with envy on that one!
Old 10-08-2020, 08:02 AM
  #48399  
My Feedback: (102)
 
Hobbsy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Colonial Beach, VA
Posts: 20,370
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Thanks, I forgot to mention that after 40 minutes the intake valve lash was the same as before, the exhaust had opened from .04 mm to .10 mm.
Old 10-08-2020, 08:09 AM
  #48400  
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Capron, IL
Posts: 10,002
Received 97 Likes on 88 Posts
Default

Looking forward to the tests with the different fuel. I always liked Wildcat fuel, it has a nice exhaust smell to it, almost like a cologne. The SIG fuel stinks from Castor, and lingers for days. Now that I can put the glow ignitor on the Chipmunk to start it, I should run a comparison between my left over Wildcat and the SIG on it.

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Manage Preferences Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.