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Old 10-19-2020, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Jesse Open



Here is my version, that I just made and tested. It works like a champ. I had some 2" x 2" thin gauge aluminum angle that I was able to bend quite nicely to fit my battery.

Warning: Do NOT remove the plastic rear end of the starter, to deal with the wiring and mounting of the battery bracket. I did, and because I do not have 5 or 6 hands, was unable to successfully get the starter reassembled and working. I didn't think things through, and did not realize that the motor brushes would come loose when I removed the red plastic end. So, I had to buy another starter, but will keep the first one for parts. Shame, because the first starter was new, until I used it just a few times, and the replacement starter (the one in my pictures) was well-used.

Also, since the new silicone wire was quite difficult to solder (I have gotten rusty in my soldering skills, after previously being out of the hobby for a long time), I had to use crimp connectors to attach the XT60 connector. Yellow heat shrink tubing is over those crimp connectors, in my picture. I put a little black silicone RTV over the zip-tie and XT60, to try to hold things stationary, but that didn't work too well. If I had thought things through and planned better, my very jerry-rigged contraption would look much more neat and professional than it currently does.




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Nice job, compact and light.Looks great, the brush thing is tricky but doable
I suspect you just had an offer of help extended, you should be all set.

Thanks for the pics .
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I have a Sullivan starter with front and back plastic broken off, do you guys have a suggestion on what a guy without machine tools can do to convert it?
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
I have a Sullivan starter with front and back plastic broken off, do you guys have a suggestion on what a guy without machine tools can do to convert it?
Buy a new starter? Recreating front and rear plates with reliefs cuts to align the stator, boring for bearings/bushings and fabricating brush cages could prove to be a nightmare without machine tools. It could be done with a wood lathe, hand drill, dremel tool and a vice with time and patience. Can you tell I've thought about doing it before? I have a Sullivan with a busted rear plate.
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Buy replacement parts cost will be about $6. Call Sullivan on the phone, chat with the lady. Sullivan is one of the best hobby suppliers on Earth. Parts are very reasonable. I keep them on hand.
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Thanks, I think I will do that.
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Me too. Thanks Gary. I noticed that the rear plates in your pic dont have brush cages molded in. Sullivan starters have a separate metal brush plate?
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Yes,,
The rear cover is just a cover The rear plate is a pressure casting with a self aligning Oilite bearing .Very well made.

You may note the one conversion with the black box has a machined aluminum rear cover. That is because I eliminated the factory switch in favor of the lever activated switch. The toughest part of that task was Re-routing the power leads inside the motor to the front end.
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A re-run of the FA 30-s, the rpm improved to 9,750 with the APC 10 x6, then I changed to a Xoar 10 x 5 the engine woke up



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Gathering up some more popular props (than Master Airscrwers) . Planning on running a not Special Saito 45 and getting some tach readings . Will be using two different home brew fuels. A 10% nitromethane with 15% Motul ester base sun-thetic oil, the other my regular 14%-14% with 2% castor oil, Klotz based oil blend. If I can get my hands on another 45 Special I am grabbing it. Sold the last new one I had last year but never ran it.

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wow, so what's going on with Horizon
yes I'm mad, it's a real wizzer when the people you need to buy from wont post their phone number, I mean what an insult !!!!!! I don't care how many people call them, I have questions !! AND their PM system wont let you type out all that you want to ask. AND their PM system won't let me edit, AND it wont let me re-type in my whole question !!!!!!!!!!!

in other words I have NO way to contact Horizon and get the info I need !!!!,,, well, unless if I want to buy something, then they will get my money.
buy but don't call and don't ask questions, what an insult

I guess this is what happens when you have a monopoly ???

BTW, even their own Rep complained to me once about their site

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More engine testing, awesome.
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Originally Posted by the Wasp
wow, so what's going on with Horizon
yes I'm mad, it's a real wizzer when the people you need to buy from wont post their phone number, I mean what an insult !!!!!! I don't care how many people call them, I have questions !! AND their PM system wont let you type out all that you want to ask. AND their PM system won't let me edit, AND it wont let me re-type in my whole question !!!!!!!!!!!

in other words I have NO way to contact Horizon and get the info I need !!!!,,, well, unless if I want to buy something, then they will get my money.
buy but don't call and don't ask questions, what an insult

I guess this is what happens when you have a monopoly ???

BTW, even their own Rep complained to me once about their site

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Jim, have you tried all of these, Thanks, Dave

Horizon Hobby, LLC. is an international hobby product distributor, headquartered in Champaign, Illinois, United States. It currently manufactures various hobby-grade radio-controlled models, as well as Athearn model trains and die-cast models, which it sells direct to consumers as well as to hobby retailers. Wikipedia
Customer service: 1 (888) 959-2307
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Originally Posted by Glowgeek
More engine testing, awesome.

Lon, try to control yourself, we don't want you bust anything.
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Where did you get that Fromeco tach? My old Fromeco TNC is dead now and I am looking for another good one. I was wondering if yours was new and still available?

Thanks,

Bob

that was Jessy Open that has that Tach

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Dave, thanks for the numbers, I wrote them down in my rollX. but I tell you, I got some brand new glasses 2 days ago and I don't see ant phone number on Horizon's site

thank you!!

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Jim, when you do a Google search, a bunch of Horizon stuff comes up on the left, this is on the right. None of if is on the actual Horizon page. Maybe they're trying to become a best kept secret.



Horizon Hobby, LLC. is an international hobby product distributor, headquartered in Champaign, Illinois, United States. It currently manufactures various hobby-grade radio-controlled models, as well as Athearn model trains and die-cast models, which it sells direct to consumers as well as to hobby retailers. Wikipedia
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The little HP is coming tomorrow, I'll start a thread of it's own.

I may try to Christmas myself a Fromeco tach, $150.00, whoo. The first one I had was $89.00 from Don Apostalico in Salina, Kan.
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Thank you, Wasp!

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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
I have a Sullivan starter with front and back plastic broken off, do you guys have a suggestion on what a guy without machine tools can do to convert it?
Contact Sullivan directly they'll sell your parts for these starters they've sold me lots of parts.and yeah brush installation and putting the Caps back over these things is pretty tricky but it's doable. The only specialty tool I've ever needed was a willing wife and a few of her incredulous eye rolls and a will you please hurry up.
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Originally Posted by Hobbsy
The little HP is coming tomorrow, I'll start a thread of it's own.

I may try to Christmas myself a Fromeco tach, $150.00, whoo. The first one I had was $89.00 from Don Apostalico in Salina, Kan.
They don't last a lifetime?

Be sure to give a link to your VT25 thread.
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Originally Posted by Hobbsy
The little HP is coming tomorrow, I'll start a thread of it's own.

I may try to Christmas myself a Fromeco tach, $150.00, whoo. The first one I had was $89.00 from Don Apostalico in Salina, Kan.
Please post a link you know what a nosey bunch we are!
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Has anyone ever heard of a place where these tachs could be sent for repair? Mine just stopped working suddenly. The sensor is clean and the solder joints look good. There doesn't seem to be any physical reason why mine stopped working. I sure do love that tach. I think I spent about $129 when I bought mine.

Thanks,

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N1EDM,

You can send it to me and I will have a look. Most likely something very simple. I just gave my original Fromeco TNC to a local. It was like new after about 20 years of hard use. When I saw the new version in the billet machined case I bought it. Heck, my Heathkit Thumb Tach is well over 40 years old and works great too.
The new version is totally different electrically as many of the IC components of 20 years ago are no longer available.

Just don't do like Dave and leave it out in the rain.


Send me a PM for my address, Also good on the QRZ ham radio FCC database as KG8LB

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