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Old 06-11-2022, 02:37 AM
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Thanks Jim, yes I did, I visited with Frank Noll a while and saw him fly a huge model of a Greek fighter jet, I'm not going back today, the War Birds are beautiful but watching a 150 inch Cub climb nearly out of sight powered by a giant chain saw engine is just interesting to me.


Frank Nolls jet.

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Dave,

How cool is that? Getting to see the event first hand and close to home. Looks like some excellent weather too.
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Yes indeed, it was 61 when I left home at 6:55 am and 91 when I left at 2:00 pm. that thing even makes red hot exhaust ring you see on the real thing.
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Saito 56 newly rebuilt, the carb needs some TLC, way unpredictable.

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Old 06-11-2022, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 1200SportsterRider

Saito 56 newly rebuilt, the carb is trash, way unpredictable.
A trashed Saito carb? That would be a first for me.

I had one drive me crazy for a while but eventually fixed it by removing debris that was packed inside of the low speed needle. Don't ask me why having a little debris in there caused running issues but it certainly did. I believe the debris was felt fibers from a cheapo felt filter clunk.

Speaking of felt filter clunks, using one in your tank will elliminate the need for that crap trap at the Cline inlet. It'll catch more crud too. After a season of flying the felt filter clunk can be back washed with DNA without having to remove the tank from the plane. It's not even an inconvience for me, I backwash all my fuel tanks for winter storage anyway.

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Old 06-11-2022, 08:38 AM
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Sounds like my Cub with the Saito 100 on it. Takes off in under 10' and climbs vertically like an F15. My club buddies said, Cub's don't fly like that! I did a low pass at a tick above idle, and I hear, Cubs Fly like THAT!
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Lonnie, I ordered something to play with while playing with the Cline regulator.
Old 06-12-2022, 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by acdii
Sounds like my Cub with the Saito 100 on it. Takes off in under 10' and climbs vertically like an F15. My club buddies said, Cub's don't fly like that! I did a low pass at a tick above idle, and I hear, Cubs Fly like THAT!
Sounds like most of my planes. If they need nose weight I'll always opt for a bigger engine over lead. Cubs offer a whole new level of "Cubs don't fly like that!" when you add flaps. Great fun and it really irks the vintage flyers at the field.
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I have a couple different check valves to play with and will use the above gauge to experiment.

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Old 06-13-2022, 06:09 PM
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Interesting, Thanks
Old 06-15-2022, 03:09 AM
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I built a U-tube manometer, but underestimated the height of the gauge required to measure muffler pressure. Blew the water out of the tube when the engine reached somewhere around 3/4 throttle. Lol

1 psi equals 27.7" water column. To safely measure muffler pressure a U-tube style nanometer would have to be approx 35" tall, using 70" of tubing length.

For measuring higher checked tank pressures a DIY single column vertical manometer is a much better choice imo. The gauge Dave bought is undoubtedly not as accurate as a properly calibrated manometer but still a good choice.



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That gauge was 13 bucks, it's quite easy to pressurize a Roto Flow tank to 20 psi with a single squeeze of a Sullivan fuel bulb. I tapped threads into the inlet for a Saito vent.
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Agree, yes the gauge is quite handy, good move too Dave using the Saito fitting.
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LOL I have seen the YS 80 and 91 engine Heli guys release the pressure from their tanks. Psssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss . a bit more pressure than they would ever need. but those engines also have regulators. I always wondered how much pressure they had in those tanks

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I watched the one I was using balloon up pretty good when I bench ran the YS 61 I put in the Liberty Sport. Need a good strong tank for a YS.
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Dave,
How would you like some electronic pressure sensors?
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Originally Posted by modeltronics
Dave,
How would you like some electronic pressure sensors?
only if it will tell me how much air is traveling thew the fins on my engine's head LOL

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JIm,
No kidding....I may have some electronic airflow sensors left over from my working days.
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Originally Posted by modeltronics
JIm,
No kidding....I may have some electronic airflow sensors left over from my working days.
LOL how much they weigh LOL

EDITED really thO, that would be a cool thing to test on a plane set up for that.

Jim

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The larger one is an airflow sensor. A version of this is used in a CPAP to detect air flow. It is a true mass airflow sensor. The smaller one is a pressure sensor. I have a variety of pressure sensors around. These are just the unamplified sensors and they require external electroniscs such as an instumentation amp. I also have a bunch of linear hall sensors around. I wish I had collected a few digital hall sensors like used in a CDI system. Years ago if you drove an American, German or Japaneese car I had my fingers on some of the sensors in it.. I have the patent on a sensor that can smell gas fumes by looking at the thermal conductivity of the air. Funny thing that now that I am retired I have only a small interest in electronics and I want to learn all I can about machining.
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A patented engineer are ya, Pedro? Congrats on that, good sir!

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Originally Posted by modeltronics

The larger one is an airflow sensor. A version of this is used in a CPAP to detect air flow. It is a true mass airflow sensor. The smaller one is a pressure sensor. I have a variety of pressure sensors around. These are just the unamplified sensors and they require external electroniscs such as an instumentation amp. I also have a bunch of linear hall sensors around. I wish I had collected a few digital hall sensors like used in a CDI system. Years ago if you drove an American, German or Japaneese car I had my fingers on some of the sensors in it.. I have the patent on a sensor that can smell gas fumes by looking at the thermal conductivity of the air. Funny thing that now that I am retired I have only a small interest in electronics and I want to learn all I can about machining.
you can buy Diode sensors cheap that we used on model Heli governors. they work well. I used them.

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Originally Posted by Glowgeek
A patented engineer are ya, Pedro? Congrats on that, good sir!

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Lonnie, on the Cline I kept the diaphragm is stiff, it leaks fuel when the tank is pressurized. If you take it apart and push the diaphragm back, it will work one time to pressurize the tank. Then when you draw fuel through it, it leaks again. I have this D-10 WAT kit coming to fix it..
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Originally Posted by 1200SportsterRider
Lonnie, on the Cline I kept the diaphragm is stiff, it leaks fuel when the tank is pressurized. If you take it apart and push the diaphragm back, it will work one time to pressurize the tank. Then when you draw fuel through it, it leaks again. I have this D-10 WAT kit coming to fix it..
If all you need is the gasket and diaphragm the D-10 will work. IIRC, the K-10 WAT has the Inlet needle and lever parts included as well.

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