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Old 09-14-2022, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by acdii
Well, sometimes yah gotta do what yah gotta do.
Smore green to get his goat

Old 09-14-2022, 07:54 AM
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Do you think I should confess I built one of these in this color with added gold pinstripes? I even used the included electric motor too.

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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
Do you think I should confess I built one of these in this color with added gold pinstripes? I even used the included electric motor too.

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Only if I nust confess to lawn darting a green and white "something extra" tipped with a perfectly running Saito 82 attached.
Let's did and say we not Mike
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Works for me!
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Originally Posted by Monty Python
Hi Lonnie and Mike, good fun keeping up with the news here when travelling around Western Australia, so no flying at the moment. However...I found a pair of rose tinted sunglasses in my travels, it's a safety measure so that if someone posts a pic of a green TX/Plane/Harley Davidson, they look beige/babypoo brown through the rose tinted lenses. All I need now is a safe way to deal with FA125 pics and comments.

ps, and maybe some totally blacked out lenses in case Jim posts piccys of his smelly black and gold two strokes
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Dave, I think you and I should get together and send Pete a couple Harley shirts LOL

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Sounds good Jim.

The Saito FG 11 cylinder I ordered last week was $78.00 plus shipping and tax for a total of $90.00, Today they're showing it as $113.00 plus shipping and tax. The valves last week were shown as $48.00 today at $67.35. I always opt for the Fed-X shipping. That's quite a change.

A piston is on the way and an RMJ ring. I should have a .66 in about a week.

27 mm FG 11 cylinder.
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Yep, a couple of weeks ago the rear cam for my 200Ti was listed for $30-something, yesterday listed for $61. Glad I got it when I did.

Jim, I have an FA91 parts engine on the way here. May have a good cylinder for you!

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Originally Posted by 1200SportsterRider
Sounds good Jim.

The Saito FG 11 cylinder I ordered last week was $78.00 plus shipping and tax for a total of $90.00, Today they're showing it as $113.00 plus shipping and tax. The valves last week were shown as $48.00 today at $67.35. I always opt for the Fed-X shipping. That's quite a change.

A piston is on the way and an RMJ ring. I should have a .66 in about a week.
That's a fun project. You'll have bronze valve seats too.

Did the 62 case have to be modified to accept the FG11 cylinder spigot? Or maybe the other around?
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Here you go Lonnie:

Originally Posted by 1200SportsterRider
I just modified the FG 11 cylinder to fit in the Saito 62-B crankcase, the neck that extends down in the crankcase was 29 mm OD, it required reducing to 28.25 mm to fit into the 62-B crankcase. I rigged up a 29 MM jig for the 3 jaw chuck, slid the cylinder over it, it was a silky smooth fit, then slid the ball bearing live center into the top cooling fins with just enough pressure to turn the cylinder. It rotated perfectly true. Now all I need is an FG 11/27mm piston.
Will be interesting to see how the compression height at the piston plays out.


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Originally Posted by Jesse Open
Here you go Lonnie:
Whoops, missed that.


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Will be interesting to see how the compression height at the piston plays out.
Yes it will. I believe the stroke is the same between the FA62 and FG11 however the gudgeon pin to piston crown height may be different. Depends on whether or not Saito felt a reduction in CR was needed for the FG11.
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With part prices taking one leap after another, I won't be ordering parts for Saitos like I had in the past. After market bearings is about all. Otherwise , used parts from donors only. I am also going back to making my own rings. If I don't have the part needed, I eill add that lump to the "donor engines" pile.
The makers and distributors are using parts prices to discourage people from rebuilding engines.

I will not be buying new Saitos, aside from what I can buy from individuals.
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Sounds like it you buy a used one now and needs work you almost end up at the price of a new one with the parts needed. Might become harder to sell used saitos now. And to be able to get anything for it.

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Yep, buy em cheap, run out the last few hours and toss en on the "parts only" heap.
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Originally Posted by Glowgeek
Yep, a couple of weeks ago the rear cam for my 200Ti was listed for $30-something, yesterday listed for $61. Glad I got it when I did.

Jim, I have an FA91 parts engine on the way here. May have a good cylinder for you!
thanks for the PM Lonnie!!!

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Originally Posted by Jesse Open
With part prices taking one leap after another, I won't be ordering parts for Saitos like I had in the past. After market bearings is about all. Otherwise , used parts from donors only. I am also going back to making my own rings. If I don't have the part needed, I eill add that lump to the "donor engines" pile.
The makers and distributors are using parts prices to discourage people from rebuilding engines.

I will not be buying new Saitos, aside from what I can buy from individuals.
it seems as if they are pushing us out of "Glow Fuel Flying"

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Originally Posted by erieqc
Sounds like it you buy a used one now and needs work you almost end up at the price of a new one with the parts needed. Might become harder to sell used Saitos now. And to be able to get anything for it.
Nothing wrong with used Saitos every one I have was used by someone else. I have never purchased one new and at today's prices probably never will. Like anything treated right they will last a good long time and they are dependable. I'm not a hotshot pilot, I'll leave 3D for the movies and printers. If the engine stays running, keeps the airplane in the air, and has a bit of reserve for when my dumb thumbs kick in I'm golden.
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
Nothing wrong with used Saitos every one I have was used by someone else. I have never purchased one new and at today's prices probably never will. Like anything treated right they will last a good long time and they are dependable. I'm not a hotshot pilot, I'll leave 3D for the movies and printers. If the engine stays running, keeps the airplane in the air, and has a bit of reserve for when my dumb thumbs kick in I'm golden.
Well put Mike. Me too movement...
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
Nothing wrong with used Saitos every one I have was used by someone else. I have never purchased one new and at today's prices probably never will. Like anything treated right they will last a good long time and they are dependable. I'm not a hotshot pilot, I'll leave 3D for the movies and printers. If the engine stays running, keeps the airplane in the air, and has a bit of reserve for when my dumb thumbs kick in I'm golden.
Yep

Used Saitos are the way to go. Run em till they don't have the guts to go one more turn. Toss it on the pile. They can keep their new engines and especially the high $$ new parts.

Saitos: Buy em cheap!

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it's the Cat's Meow and Cat's Tail all wrapped up together.

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Well put Mike. Me too movement...
Hey Y'all
I just threw a need at the wall for a couple OS 120 parts on "that other forum" lol Hit me if you have either or both eh?
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Originally Posted by Hyjinx
Hey Y'all
I just threw a need at the wall for a couple OS 120 parts on "that other forum" lol Hit me if you have either or both eh?
PM with what you need.
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The 72 and the 80 have the same 27mm piston diameter, different part # from the FG11 though. There might be more ways to play than I thought.
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Saito 50 rebuilt from spare parts.
Prop========Xoar 11 x 6
Plug========Glo-Devil 4c special
Fuel========Wildcat 10% with 18% full synthetic
Exhaust=====Davis Diesel In Cowl
Max rpm====10,800
Idle=========2,200
Prop=======G-Sonic 10 x 7
Max rpm====11,990
Idle============?


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Now all it needs is an airplane to pull around!
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Originally Posted by 1200SportsterRider
Saito 50 rebuilt from spare parts.
Prop========Xoar 11 x 6
Plug========Glo-Devil 4c special
Fuel========Wildcat 10% with 18% full synthetic
Exhaust=====Davis Diesel In Cowl
Max rpm====10,800
Idle=========2,200
Prop=======G-Sonic 10 x 7
Max rpm====11,990
Idle============?
Dandy numbers from that cobbled together whirlygig.

Calculated .87 HP, 6 lbs of thrust.

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