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Old 11-17-2009, 06:34 PM
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The new home of my 1.00
With a 15x8 APC. it turns 8400 on the ground.
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:59 PM
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OK.. an update to my previous update.

I found another new home for my 450. A Jim Pepino Waco. It was here on RCU, and for the money, I couldn't pass it up. The Stearman kit is still coming in, but I may let it sit for a while... So, if anyone wants a 1/4 scale Stearman full kit, wheels, struts, tail piece, wingtubes, plans, yadda, yadda, yadda... I know where they can pick it up cheap!

I think the Waco will be a better plane for me.. 4 ailerons, a little more wing area, a little less weight... oughta float right down if I can get it balanced.
Sounds like a great match for your engine. Please post some pics (and video) when you get it together.
Old 11-18-2009, 12:43 AM
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Charlie that is one clean P-51. Is it a top flight kit?

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Old 11-18-2009, 02:22 AM
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Its the Hanger 9 Blue Nose.
Thanks Ernie
Old 11-18-2009, 07:24 AM
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Here's the "before" picture...

I haven't seen it yet, going to pick it up on Sunday. I know I'm going to need to build a new cowl (longer) to fit the motor in properly, and it needs some paint trim. Not sure exactly what to do until I take a good look at it.
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Old 11-18-2009, 07:54 AM
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Nice looking plane Charlie
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The new home of my 1.00
With a 15x8 APC. it turns 8400 on the ground.
Old 11-18-2009, 10:33 AM
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Saito experts...

This is my first venture back into glow fuel in a few years, and I was wondering if a transmitter-based solution has been developed for fuel shut-off. Just as a safety feature, if the throttle servo hangs open or something, I was wondering if an electronic solenoid or something was available to shut the fuel supply off.
Old 11-18-2009, 11:19 AM
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There was a thread on RCU where somene would straighten a bent crank for free. Apparently he enjoyed the challenge. If you are interested, I will try to find the thread/contact. Please advise.
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http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_69...tm.htm#6948801

Yes, I can straighten the crankshaft.
Send the crankcase with the bearings still in it
and the crankshaft, with return postage to:

David Dunn (Flyboy Dave)
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Pinon HIlls, CA. 92372

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Old 11-18-2009, 01:33 PM
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Hi Dave, glad you are still around. Good advice for anyone within the collateral damage zone of anyone that says "oh yeah, watch this" had best get far, far away, as these words may well be his last. :-))

VBR, SPACEWORM (an engineer that still thinks there is nothing that can't be done, even though it may take a little treachery to do so)
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There was a thread on RCU where somene would straighten a bent crank for free. Apparently he enjoyed the challenge. If you are interested, I will try to find the thread/contact. Please advise.
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http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_69...tm.htm#6948801

Yes, I can straighten the crankshaft.
Send the crankcase with the bearings still in it
and the crankshaft, with return postage to:

David Dunn (Flyboy Dave)
P.O. Box 720979
Pinon HIlls, CA. 92372

FBD.
Old 11-18-2009, 01:44 PM
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Saito experts...

This is my first venture back into glow fuel in a few years, and I was wondering if a transmitter-based solution has been developed for fuel shut-off. Just as a safety feature, if the throttle servo hangs open or something, I was wondering if an electronic solenoid or something was available to shut the fuel supply off.

If you are running a gasoline engine there are numerous solutions to the problem, including solid state opto isolated ignition cutoffs, that are independent of th throttle servo. Do a search in the gas engine forums for engine cutoffs. If running glow, the options are not so commercially available, AFAIK. In the case of glow, you could use a servo controlled valve such as used for smoke fluid control and run the glow fuel lines into and out of that valve. Problem might be the compatibility of the valve components with glow fuel as they are usually used with petroleum base smoke oils. Search these forums for smoke systems and check if any of the valves used are glow fuel compatible. In either case, the servo or opto switch can be triggered by the fail safe feature of PCM receivers, or by a separate channel and tx switch. Good luck.
Old 11-18-2009, 02:40 PM
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Are there still some Saito .50 fliers out there, I ran mine today for the first time since spring of 2008, I had replaced it with a Saito .62 which I lost in the woods at Andrews AFB and never found. I couldn't remember the best prop for it. Today, I ran a

Fuel===WildCat 15% 2/4, 18% all synthetic
Plug===Fox Miracle
Muffler RCSpecialties TurboHeader

Graupner 12x5 rpm===11,450
Bolly 12.5x6=====9.450
Graupner 12x6 10,500, the right one.

Believe it or not, it is turning 6,700 in the picture, 1st time I ever caught a turning prop in a still.
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Old 11-18-2009, 04:23 PM
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Hi Dave, about when? was the Saito 50 still being produced?

Thanks,

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Old 11-18-2009, 05:22 PM
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Ernie, I just talked to Bobby Dove at Apex Hobbies in Tazewell, Va. where I bought the .50, it is one the last made. Bobby thinks 2003 or 2004 was the last year for them.
Old 11-18-2009, 07:51 PM
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G'day all. I will shortly be starting my largest Saito - a 150S. I had no problems starting my 120S with an electric starter though my 100 was a real pain initially. The starter would just not turn it over. Now that it has some running under it's belt, this is no longer a problem. The 150 seems to have a lot of compression. What sort of starters do people use with these engines? I eventually used a chicken stick with the 100 and found that a back flip was the best way to go. Will this work with the 150? Any other ideas?

The 150 will be going into a Sig Four Star 120. Any prop recommendations? I am not after speed but grunt. I do have a MA 16 x 8 I think.

Thanks

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Old 11-18-2009, 08:03 PM
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That prop sounds good.
I use a sullivan electric starter for my 180, no problems at all. I have a pretty big battery, though.
Old 11-18-2009, 08:07 PM
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http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/237960.asp $60


Old 11-18-2009, 08:07 PM
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I use a Sullivan DynaTron with a 300 amp garden tractor battery. It starts a Saito 2.20 and SuperTigre 4500 with no problem.
Old 11-18-2009, 08:09 PM
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I have three Dynatrons picked up at swap meets.

Sullivan Dynatron http://www.advantagehobby.com/produc...roductid=40218 $98




Old 11-18-2009, 10:28 PM
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We started a new 150 with a backflip bouncing against compression. This was after it backfired from a brisk forward flip and whacked my heavilly gloved hand to where I thought I would see blood after taking the glove off. No blood but very sore fingers. Another time it bacfired and ruined a very nice prop and Tru Turn spinner, throwing the prop nuts and prop a good distance away. For the first run and run-in of my 180 I am going to use an elastic stop nut in addition to the regular prop nut to keep things together and not use a spinner until it is broken in. That will dictate a hand start with a chicken stick bounced against compression like worked for the 150.
Old 11-19-2009, 06:00 PM
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G'day Thanks all for the advice. I think I will initially try the starter with a bigger battery (or three in parallel) and if that does not do the trick then the back flip will probably be the way to go at least until I get some running under its belt. Model is coming along well.
Old 11-19-2009, 06:47 PM
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I have been away for a year or so dealing with medical problems. One of the last things I did before taking some time off was to buy a used FA 100T (twin). The motor has very low use and was what I thought I wanted. I don't want it to become a desk paper weight but I don't have any interest in Cubs or Citrabra type planes. I am now looking and measuring to put it in a Goldberg 60 Chipmunk knowing that it will be about 1/2 lb. heavier than OS 60 2 stroke. The Goldberg is a kit plane that has never been finished and it needs to have all the covering removed and redone.
A couple of questions to those that know. What I should expect for long life from this engine? Being as it is the odd fire engine and it has no crankcase pump is there some modifications that I can make to keep the engine well lubed? I dose my other 3 Saitos with an additional 2 ozs castor to the Wildcat premium 10% fuel. Several members on the forum helped me out with some answers after I purchased the engine, but that information is now lost.
2nd question is, when did the crankcase pumps come in to existance? Did they work out very well? This engine came in black and copper colored box but I have no idea as to the age. It turns graupner 13X8 prop easily but I haven't tached it yet because I feel it has yet to be broken in.
3rd question, I do not see where anyone offers velocity stacks for this engine, are any available?

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Old 11-19-2009, 07:41 PM
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Give it the tender loving care you give your other Saitos

The pumps were on them in the beginning. Seemed to be not cost effective.

There were never any velocity stacks for this engine and they are not needed.

Should pull a 14-6 when you get it broken in.

If it was a black and gold box with no pump it was late 90's
Old 11-19-2009, 08:14 PM
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Space, about 10 years ago I had my 1.50 on a H9 Cap 232, I was trying to start it in my back yard on a 30 degree day. I forward flipped it and it kicked back, when the second blade came by it hit my cold finger tips, my finger nails were so cold they shattered like glass, my finger tips were blue and tender for a month. I learned the back flip shortly afterward.
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Old 11-19-2009, 09:44 PM
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my new saito 82B,they are very  beautiful


Old 11-19-2009, 09:49 PM
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Thought the new SAITO’s come with Wight boxes. Are the black/brown boxes in the back for them?

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