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Old 05-10-2011, 05:26 AM
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Put a Cline regulator on it and you'll have consistent engine performance from full to empty and you will no longer need to run the engine 300 rpm rtich to avoid a lean run.
Old 05-10-2011, 05:37 AM
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Put a Cline regulator on it and you'll have consistent engine performance from full to empty and you will no longer need to run the engine 300 rpm rtich to avoid a lean run.

Thanks Hobbsy.
The Cline will stop the siphoning too? Hadn't really noticed any performance issues, but it's been a year since I ran it and even then only ran it 2 or 3 times so a little hard to remember.
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Put a Cline regulator on it and you'll have consistent engine performance from full to empty and you will no longer need to run the engine 300 rpm rtich to avoid a lean run.

Thanks Hobbsy.
The Cline will stop the siphoning too? Hadn't really noticed any performance issues, but it's been a year since I ran it and even then only ran it 2 or 3 times so a little hard to remember.

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Old 05-10-2011, 07:54 AM
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Have a 1.50 inverted in a narrow cowled warbird and in order to make it fit I had to point the carb/manifold staight down towards the ground
so it is lower than the fuel tank.
Seems it's siphoning down and dripping. Is there any fix for this where I won't have to move either one? Really don't want
to cut the cowl and point the carb out the side and there's just no way to lower the tank any more than it already is.
Would the gasser's trick of running the vent line under and then over the tank top and then to the muffler pressure tap work here? or Does that work only for pumper carbs on gas engines? Thanks.

Sincerely, Richard
Old 05-10-2011, 08:59 AM
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Thanks to all for the welcome flags over the few days. I am getting a Saito FA-100t/World arf Super Sport 90 project going (my first twin Cyl.) Have started a thread regarding this here: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10492195/tm.htm

Doing the assembly as kosher i can within reason. No rush. Wing and gear almost done. Is there a source for an off the shelf engine mount of some type? i need to come off the firewall 42mm with some type mount plate using standoffs maybe? Found some nylon spacers off the shelf at hardware store that might work. Broomhandle and a chopsaw you think? Need the best simple solution. Insights please.............. Thanks!
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Old 05-10-2011, 09:51 AM
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Thanks to all for the welcome flags over the few days. I am getting a Saito FA-100t/World arf Super Sport 90 project going (my first twin Cyl.) Have started a thread regarding this here: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10492195/tm.htm

Doing the assembly as kosher i can within reason. No rush. Wing and gear almost done. Is there a source for an off the shelf engine mount of some type? i need to come off the firewall 42mm with some type mount plate using standoffs maybe? Found some nylon spacers off the shelf at hardware store that might work. Broomhandle and a chopsaw you think? Need the best simple solution. Insights please.............. Thanks!
do you have access to McMaster Carr? It's an industrial supply that sells just about anything you might ever need hardware wise.
They sell aluminum spacers in just about every screw size clearance in a tremendous range of lengths.Here's a link to the ones I'm talking about. They sell spacers made out of many materials if you would rather not use aluminum

http://www.mcmaster.com/#unthreaded-spacers/=c8veh9
Old 05-10-2011, 11:42 AM
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Mike's link will splain everything, the Cline is a demand regulator that only allows fuel to flow when the carb demands. It is basically the regulator side of a Walbro carb.
Old 05-10-2011, 04:26 PM
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[X(] 790 post on a thread, speaks for it's self. Well here is my humble one. But I luv it!
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Old 05-10-2011, 04:41 PM
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Hobbsy,
Haven't been on the forums in a while, like the new avatar.Given up the bike for that??
Must say, looks like it'd be fun toolin' 'round on it!
Old 05-10-2011, 05:36 PM
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Sodbuster,
Talked to support at Horizon.  They had exactly the length i needed in a set of standoffs for 20 $ for a set of four. Thanks for the link though. Looks like a good source.
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Sodbuster,
Talked to support at Horizon. They had exactly the length i needed in a set of standoffs for 20 $ for a set of four. Thanks for the link though. Looks like a good source.
no problem.
McMaster would have run you about $6-8
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Would an OS 2 stroke pump work the same as the Cline?
Meaning does it also have a stop valve inside of it?

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Has anyone ever used a Perry oscillating pump with a Saito? I was thinking of mounting a tank remote to make room for tri-retracts on an Ultra Sport 60. Engine is Saito 100.

Here is a link to the Perry pump:

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXDG61&P=7
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Sodbuster,
Talked to support at Horizon. They had exactly the length i needed in a set of standoffs for 20 $ for a set of four. Thanks for the link though. Looks like a good source.
no problem.
McMaster would have run you about $6-8
That's what Iwas thinking!
Old 05-10-2011, 06:10 PM
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Would an OS 2 stroke pump work the same as the Cline?
Meaning does it also have a stop valve inside of it?

The Cline is a regulator. It has a stop valve that will not let any fuel through unless there is a slight vacuum on the outlet end. The Cline is not a pump.

The OS 2 stroke pump does not have a regulator and neither does a Perry. The Perry's have a volume control but do not have a regulator even though Tower calls them a regulating pump.

The OS engines have a separate regulator adjacent to the carb

Old 05-11-2011, 03:53 AM
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I don't use credit cards so getting to bills room from australia is difficult,is there a dealer here as i would like to try a couple.May have to lean on a credit card friend if not
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There's also the Iron Bay regulator

http://www.ironbaymodelcompany.com/i...es/Page438.htm
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Thanks Sod, I grew up driving Farmalls, Fords and Harleys, The Harley is rapidly approaching 15,000 miles and with gas close to 4 bucks a gallon and the Harley making 51 mpg its a real handy (errand vehicle). As my Dad used to say, I get to see the sights and smell the wonders.

Some say the Cline won't flow enough fuel for a Saito 2.20 but both of mine will. The Cline is all about consistency from full tank to empty.
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Would an OS 2 stroke pump work the same as the Cline?
Meaning does it also have a stop valve inside of it?

The Cline is a regulator. It has a stop valve that will not let any fuel through unless there is a slight vacuum on the outlet end. The Cline is not a pump.

The OS 2 stroke pump does not have a regulator and neither does a Perry. The Perry's have a volume control but do not have a regulator even though Tower calls them a regulating pump.

The OS engines have a separate regulator adjacent to the carb

The Perry does have a regulator, I have seen them apart. That is the reason for the hole. The hole allows atmospheric pressure on the other side of the regulator diaphragm. So the pressure regulated is equal to the atmospheric pressure plus the spring pressure, the adjustment screw applies pressure against a spring adding spring pressure to the diaphragm. Because of this it regulates pressure above atmospheric pressure by the amount of pressure the spring applies. It is not a demand regulator but a positive pressure regulator, because of this it allows fuel to flow through.


Below is a cutaway of a typical industial pressure regulator valve. As you can see it has the same components as a Perry Regulaor valve, but the Perry has an extra diaphragm on the opposite end which is used to pump fuel.

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I currently have an FA-82B, a 100FA, a 72 AAC, an FA-62A, a 91 special, and a 56 golden Knight. Can I join?
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Kruzer, BLW will fix you right up.
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Hi there Saito guys !

Do any of you know how much horsepower a Saito 1.80 makes ?? Could not find it on the Horizon Hobby website...............

Thanks, Don
Old 05-11-2011, 09:54 AM
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Please see the attached specifications.

http://www.espritmodel.com/index.asp...OD&ProdID=3514

HP 2.8/-

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This is another nice "unofficial" Saito site for good information from an obviously experienced and informed Satio enthusiast:

http://saito-engines.info/index.html
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