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Old 05-21-2011, 05:42 PM
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Getting ready for the SAM OLD champs on the June long w/end and curses I have had to use cap headed self tapers to secure my extra special Taipan 2.5 Diesel (an original) to its plastic mount in a Burford comp model  A cosmo clipper for those who care
The Lanzo Bomber with the Saito 65 (properly secured to Saito metal mount) is giving me 7 minutes engine run on an allocated 15 mils of 10% fuel at around 4500 to 5000rpm with an APC 14 x 8 and tuned for Duration (vertical drag racing, a timed event) the same model / engine combination with a 13 x 6 Bolly carbon fibre (own design) is turn as close as you could get to 13,000 on 20% nitro 20% synthetic heli oil (low viscosity)  My little Irivine 21 powered Bomber with Irvine stinger on FAI fuel and a 10 x 6 prop (Bolly) is turning about 16500 RPM up here (I expect a 10% increase in Brisbane cooler).
It will be a Saiot attack year this year I am giving the YS's a rest
Old 05-21-2011, 05:43 PM
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That 16500 should read 18500 RPM
Old 05-21-2011, 06:32 PM
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hey guys, Ipulling my satio 100 out of my mustang so I can do some repairs on the landing gear....(bad maden) im wondering if the fa100 will be ok to install in a 90 size seagull ultimate biplane? Im not looking to do any 3d just alittle bit of flying to get soem time on the 100. also what prob will be a good one to use in the biplane with the fa100?


Old 05-21-2011, 09:19 PM
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Hello Club Saito members,

Back on post #19796 I asked for help with replacing bearings in my FA 100 Saito. Earlwb responded with a couple of instructional videos. They were just what I was in need of. Anyway, I replaced both bearings yesterday. Today I finished reassembling the motor. This afternoon I ran the motor and OH BABY it runs awesome !
THANK YOU CLUB SAITO !!!!!!!!!!!! Proud to be a member ! [sm=teeth_smile.gif]

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Old 05-21-2011, 11:43 PM
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question my new Saito 1.00 seem not want to shut down when hit my throttle cut the setting on it is 20% UNDER low stick any idea
i have checked the carb is fully closed (servo is just shy of buzzing)
here is a video at 4:10 you can see were i hit the thottle cut and it keep right on idleing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpBg8nErWNU

Old 05-22-2011, 12:47 AM
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Nice plane and video. Welcome to RCU

It must have a vacuum leak around one end of the intake manifold?
Old 05-22-2011, 01:21 AM
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whats the fix if thats what it is
it sounds likely since i had to rotate the carb to get the throttle to line up and i did put a stack on the carb

Old 05-22-2011, 05:06 AM
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Check the O-rings on both ends of the intake tube. Also that the little metal ring is pushing the O-ring on the head end in.

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Old 05-22-2011, 04:51 PM
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Gotta 90t and a 72. Can i be a member?

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Old 05-23-2011, 11:55 AM
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Jim, I broke this FA .40 out of its box to mount on my RCM 40. I chose a MA K12.5x5, those K props are growing on me. Total run time on this engine is about 1.5 hours. About 30 minutes of that is flight time.

Saito FA .40
WildCat 15% with 18% 80/20 blend
Fox Miracle plug
Master Airscrew 12.5x5
RPM===9,550
Idle 1,975 but better at 2,100
Exhaust===TurboHeader, no comparison to stock since stock was a straight pipe which I no longer have.
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Old 05-23-2011, 12:40 PM
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Glad to be a member. the 90T is in a Goldberg Cub and the 72 is going in my new GP Cherokee!
Old 05-24-2011, 01:42 AM
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Thinking about it a bit more we did put a counter wieght on the prop shaft under the spiner the Edge was VERYtail heavy would this make it want to not shut down?
also is that going hurt preformance any ?
Old 05-24-2011, 02:54 PM
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I recently obtained the Saito FA-82b! Can I be a member of the club?[8D]
Old 05-24-2011, 05:53 PM
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ORIGINAL: Nikolas K

I recently obtained the Saito FA-82b! Can I be a member of the club?[8D]
No.

Club Saito Bi-laws clearly state on page 16 of the our members hand book "Those with only one Saito engine has to have to provide proof over ownership of a .91 or larger engine."

Ok.....Im just pulling your leg!

I only have one Saito, and was welcomed with open arms... in a heteral kind a way!

Welcome..
Old 05-24-2011, 09:44 PM
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Νικόλα ωραίος ο Saito! Θα τον κατευχαριστηθείς!
I have the older one, FA-80......that i recently installed on my GreatPlanes Cherokee 40 ARF.

The assembly thread is here : [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=10419268]GreatPlanes Cherokee 40 ARF.[/link]

And two videos....

Engine warming-up :
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxk5rEoErzw[/youtube]

Engine's full potential :
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLdcdaT3dSY[/youtube]
Old 05-25-2011, 04:02 AM
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I had a problem with my Saito 125 where it would die when rapidly closing the throttle in flight. Chased everything. Finally figured it out on a different plane. Cheap Throttle Servo. Never again.
Old 05-25-2011, 07:03 AM
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Kikolaus K- you are member #763. Welcome to the club.
Old 05-25-2011, 02:41 PM
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I am heading to frosty Brisbane at the end of next week.  Talked to my mentor and I am going to acquire an 82 and slot it into his 1/4 scale Sig Cub and see how it goes.  The model wiighs about 15 pound with a 120 OS (old one in it).  Said mentor has a big GP Decathlon with a 91 in it that performs ok he says so one way or another I'll have an answer to my dilima about an engine for the Reliant.
BTB the new Saito 82 puts out almost as much grunt as the OS 120 or the 90's era so HP wise they are as near the same as I would want.  Big difference is weight and the Saito is lighter and with the modern radio gear I expect bigger savings so weight is definitely going down which is good
As an aside it is freezing here 14 degrees C at 0600hrs but is warmiong up now 21 so a reasonable day ahead 
Old 05-25-2011, 02:42 PM
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Excuse the spelling I am still thawing out and one more comment give me a cyclone any day those tornados are not something I would like to experience methinks
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ORIGINAL: mike early

I had a problem with my Saito 125 where it would die when rapidly closing the throttle in flight. Chased everything. Finally figured it out on a different plane. Cheap Throttle Servo. Never again.


Doesn't that drive you nuts? Servo/radio problems and poorly engineered linkage can cause the best of us lots of frustration. I'm glad you discovered your problem.


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Well, the new servo certainly helped the deadsticks. Now the idle is hanging after revving. Then after a few seconds it is returning to normal. I''ve got the low end adjusted perfectly. Certainly not a huge problem, but do you guys think it might be an air leak at the O-Ring for the intake tube? I have not removed the cowl to inspect it....
Old 05-25-2011, 11:07 PM
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ORIGINAL: FNQFLYER

Excuse the spelling I am still thawing out and one more comment give me a cyclone any day those tornados are not something I would like to experience methinks


Where I spent the first fifty years of my life in NJ, I was as close as 600 feet to two separate tornadoes and within a mile or so of a funnel cloud (tornado not contacting the ground). Down here in Georgia, I've only been within three to four miles of one confirmed tornado, but that was an EF-4 and not the dinky EF-0 and 1 tornadoes in NJ. The difference between the dinky Jersey tornadoes and the street scrubber EF-4 and 5 tornadoes is awesome.

I'm inland quite a bit in Georgia, whereas I was right at the mouth of the Delaware Bay when in NJ. In the latter locale, Hurricanes (Cyclones) were no laughing matter. However, the remains of hurricans that make it as far North as where I'm at in Georgia do bring tornadoes, so there is no getting away from some of the violence.

I forgot that you folks in the southern latitudes are in Winter now. Do you get snow where you are at in Australia?

Oh, gotta keep it on topic (what IS the topic?)


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Old 05-25-2011, 11:48 PM
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Man if it snowed here in Cairns I would pack up and move to PNG.  However they do have snow well to the south of us in Victoria and Tasmania and southern New South Wales.  Me I stay away from the stuff.  When it snowed in Victoria it used to indicate the start of deer hunting season and for those of you interested we have some 5 species of deer here in OZ.

Back on topic stalling servos.  My mentor almost lost a "Swayback" the other day.  Saito powered and the throttle over travelled (actual throttle apparently) the servo stalled and drained the battery.  Old Timers glide well so no tears however and this is the biggie.  The battery would not hold a reliable charge after that and is now consigned to the bin.  It is an unspoken rule amongst Vintagents club members that incidents such as this require (a) Servo is junked  (b) the battery is binned (c) the receiver is either junked or sent away for checking by reliable radio repair station.
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Old 05-26-2011, 06:48 AM
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In a new aircraft I was having problems with a servo not centering and moving randomly. Thought it was the servo, changed still had the problem. Finally traced it to a new reciever that didn't like the elevator. Never had that happen before. I need to mention that this was on a Twin Otter, powered by 2 Saito fa40a's so that the Saito Gods don't get me.

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Old 05-26-2011, 06:50 AM
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I'd love to see a video of your plane. Twin 4-strokes must be wonderful.

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