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Old 12-11-2012, 08:05 PM
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I'm on my first saito. 450r3. Going into a hostetler mr mulligan<div>
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starting off with the big one. let us know how you like it.
Old 12-12-2012, 12:28 AM
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I started flying Saitos in 1984 on my Telemaster 40, a Saito 45,  I believe, I suffer from "Old Timers".  I now have several Saitos beginning with a 56 and 56 GK all the way up to a 300 TL twin well over 15 engines and I just put an offer on a 90 twin.  I would like to be included as a CLUB SAITO member.
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Yup, went right to the big un, like they say in Las Vegas, go big or go home.  Actually it's my first giant aircraft too, the wife and I are planning a move from the PRC to central Oregon in the not too distant future a move to a real house with a real shop and grass and horses and everything a boy needs, I just wanted to have a nice project primed and ready, I even ordered the cowl and spats today!<div>
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</div><div>Dear OFP, I believe I suffer from oldfartitis myself, I actually was the old guy at my previous job (at 43) .    I started in 5th grade with an eaglet 50, HB25(WONDERFUL engine) and a used world engines expert 5 channel (dreadful radio, at least mine was).   My first new radio cost 190 dollars in 1982, futaba gold six channel AM, but I was king sh@t as I had dual rates AND servo reversing. At my current club, only myself and the oldest living rc pilot have heard of reverse servos and cannon micro radios.  The old English guy was right, youth is indeed wasted on the young.</div><div>
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Guys if your glo engine is'nt primed and ain't ready to start first flick don't flip the prop over,ever.If you do and it won't start you begin to hear weird noises form the individual parts involved in the whole mechanical process.It would be like listening to the what the handbrake is saying to me at any given time and really listining,painfull
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Sorry about the spelling and they do sound better when they are running
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greatlakesgunny, your plans sound wonderful. If I can retire as intended in a few years I may just give you a call to ask if you have a spare house hidden somewhere on the property.

As for some strange noises, I repaired a 56 for a friend last year, and despite the new cam and crank gears if you rotated the engine by hand they was a definite "clicking" when the cam rode over the top of a lobe.
Old 12-12-2012, 04:28 AM
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Sometimes the described noise can be a result of the cam and gear moving front to back slightly on the shaft, although the engine is then usually a little noisy when running also. I've found this several times on engines I've repaired and a new set of the little steel washers for the shaft solve the issue. Just another possibility.
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That clicking is the result of the cam accelerating forward when the cam follower goes over the, "hump" on the cam, the gears are way too strong by comparison to be hurt by it. Being spur cut gears there is no reason for them to move for and aft, if helical cut, then yes they would.
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As a Club Saito member, I feel compelled to actually put my engines in planes from time to time. Here are my latesta BUSA "Sopwith Pup" with a .56 on board, and a BUSA "Eindecker 40" with a .45 up front. Both are very pleasant flyers with absolutely great sound on the ground and in the air.
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It's probably overdue, but let me know who needs a Club Saito number.
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Please check it out. Don't know if I have a Saito Club Member number or not. Thanks.
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I need a club saito #. Currently 72 and 115 but wishing Ihad more, many more.
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How many motors do you need to get a number? Hey, if one works count me in.

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It's probably overdue, but let me know who needs a Club Saito number.
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Guys if your glo engine is'nt primed and ain't ready to start first flick don't flip the prop over,ever.........
This struck me as funny. If you don't turn the prop how do you prime it! Yah I know I'm just being a pain. Sorry Old Fart I could not resist.
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Sokay i was a bit peaked at the time i wrote that, huge session in the workshop..you know
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Guys if your glo engine is'nt primed and ain't ready to start first flick don't flip the prop over,ever.........
This struck me as funny. If you don't turn the prop how do you prime it! Yah I know I'm just being a pain. Sorry Old Fart I could not resist.
John

my buddy the Saito lover says "you have to constipate the motor" he means prime.
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If your motor is constipated you have other problems[:@]
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For all the old timers consider "Old Timer Flying".  There you are a junior if you are under 55, normal member if you are between 55 and 75 and a senior above that.  Saito engines reign in SAM 84 (leastwise in competition) and apart from specific spark ignition and diesel engines are mostly the preferred 4 stroke here in OZ at least as far as I can see.
The 50, 56, 62 and 65 are te predominant engines with the 65 and 56 being my preferred units.
Check out SAM International for a club near you, no "pretty babies" and no primadonnas just old farts enjoying flying old models (and some new ones) in a way that they prefer.
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:26 AM
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Old fart flyers club! I love it! Betcha no one hovers right over the runway then eh?[:@]<div></div>
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Our old farts club actually started in the USA it is called S.A.M.  (Society of Antique Modellers) which is designed to perpetuate the continuation of mostly pe 1042 design models and their engines. however the need for speed has meant that modern engines and motors (e #^&amp;t%i c) have crept into the hobby.  I am guilty of that.  Our group SAM 84 has youngsters of around 35 with the more mature members in their 70's.
We all enjoy our 4 strokes (read Saito and YS predominantly) but we plawith Leroy's revenge, spark ignition stuff (great for helping to understand the gas Saitos) and diesels.
Yes you are right you hover on an old timer strip at your peril.
Consider the following, a screaming 4 stroke (14,000 upwards rpm) in front of a 4 pound model with a 88 inch wingspan (my Feathermerchant) launched with a 28 second engine run and at the point of transition the wingspan to the naked eye would be about 2 inches.  This equates to about 1,500 feet + depending on the flight which is usually at or about 85 to 87 degrees of the horizontal.  This is followed by as much time as you can milk in the glide.
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A passing comment, after playing with the V6 in my Commodore (GM product) I will never ***** about working on any Saito ever again.  Had a miss (turned out to be a cracked spark plug) which necessitated removing the alternator to replace the plug leads and installing the heat shields on the leads is an absolute bugger.  Will save my pennies and give it to some one else to get frustrated over. </p>
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most of my favorites at the flying field are the older members. the young ones lack character and individual style, with few exceptions.
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most of my favorites at the flying field are the older members. the young ones lack character and individual style, with few exceptions.
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In my work I deal with lots of younger guys with lots of ar15s with Lots of "accessories"    The same guys with the same guns with the same add on toys remind me of all the ARFs, cookie cutter no pride no class airplanes.  Geez I sound old.  Who remembers print wood kits?  Die cutting was state of the art at one time, gasoline was 11.9 cents a gallon and rocks were soft at one time too. Geez I feel old too.<div>  </div><div>
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