ASP/MAGNUM FS400AR Rebuild/Overhaul
#102
RE: ASP/MAGNUM FS400AR Rebuild/Overhaul
It was last run on green Cruel Power.
Its strange, but my single cylinder ASP`s almost look like new inside with the same tratment.
Its strange, but my single cylinder ASP`s almost look like new inside with the same tratment.
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Good grief, Sonny! [X(]
What fuel have you been using? Have you been flushing the engine out ofter running it and loading it with oil? If you have, and it still rusts like this I am very concerned. [sm=omg_smile.gif]
What I would do if I were you, is buy a jug of Evapo-Rust and just through the whole engine in there and let it soak for a day or so. Get rid of that crap before it can do any harm.
http://www.evapo-rust.com/
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What fuel have you been using? Have you been flushing the engine out ofter running it and loading it with oil? If you have, and it still rusts like this I am very concerned. [sm=omg_smile.gif]
What I would do if I were you, is buy a jug of Evapo-Rust and just through the whole engine in there and let it soak for a day or so. Get rid of that crap before it can do any harm.
http://www.evapo-rust.com/
Netherlands
eOx Productie b.v.
Postbus 16480
2500 BL Den Haag
1e Lulofsdwarsstraat 117
2521 AZ Den Haag
Tel: +31 (0)70 380 07 75
Fax: +31 (0)70 384 14 76
Mob: +31 (0)6 106 799 31
http://www.eoxet.com
#105
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Well, I tried using a commercial jewelery ultrasonic cleaner solution in my little ultrasonic cleaner and it was a flop. The polished aluminum cover I did a test on was dulled and discolored. I had to machine polish the cover again to bring it back to where I started.
So, I had to clean all the cylinder heads and valve covers the old fashioned way: Solvent, Q-tips, and a paint brush. It was time consuming, that's all. Solvent works really well and does not dull the finish. I was looking for an easy way out and there is none.
All the heads are now cleaned of buffing compound residue. Next up is to hand polish them with my Liquid Luster metal polish. After that is done, the main polishing work is completed and I can move on to other processes.
Here is what happened to my valve cover:
So, I had to clean all the cylinder heads and valve covers the old fashioned way: Solvent, Q-tips, and a paint brush. It was time consuming, that's all. Solvent works really well and does not dull the finish. I was looking for an easy way out and there is none.
All the heads are now cleaned of buffing compound residue. Next up is to hand polish them with my Liquid Luster metal polish. After that is done, the main polishing work is completed and I can move on to other processes.
Here is what happened to my valve cover:
#106
RE: ASP/MAGNUM FS400AR Rebuild/Overhaul
OOOoooooo...yea, that cleaning solution deposited a phosphate on it. Great corrosion resistance but not much on appearance
(I guess you can tell what industry I used to be in )
(I guess you can tell what industry I used to be in )
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ORIGINAL: Kmot
Maybe the stainless steel wire had something to do with it as well?
Maybe the stainless steel wire had something to do with it as well?
#111
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Got some rust remover, which is actualy Phosphorus acid.
Cant get the stuff that you use, here in Denmark.
But it turned out allright.
After rinsing and letting it work, the rust disapered, leaving it squeky clean.
I have imersed the the insides with motorcycle oil, and will let it soak in.
Cant get the stuff that you use, here in Denmark.
But it turned out allright.
After rinsing and letting it work, the rust disapered, leaving it squeky clean.
I have imersed the the insides with motorcycle oil, and will let it soak in.
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I changed the bearings after they failed in the air , they had rusted in pieces . I have now drilled a hole and installed a nipple in the front cover near the "ASP" badge , so i squirt some oil through it after use , time will show how long it last now before i breaks down again , the cam gets also worn ..
I dont like that it is rusting inside.. bad quality. Ill go for Seidel 770 next time
I have also been thinkg about installing a small fan or spiral made of plastic in the intake in front of the carb to maybe improve fuel distribution , to make it run without glow support.
I dont like that it is rusting inside.. bad quality. Ill go for Seidel 770 next time
I have also been thinkg about installing a small fan or spiral made of plastic in the intake in front of the carb to maybe improve fuel distribution , to make it run without glow support.
#113
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Yea, it is a shame they rust so much.
Let us know how your engine is when you open it up next time.
Yes, a turbulator in the intake would probably work....like on the moki.
Should not be that dufficult to make.
Let us know how your engine is when you open it up next time.
Yes, a turbulator in the intake would probably work....like on the moki.
Should not be that dufficult to make.
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I found some pics of a Moki radial turbulator , i will try to install one in my ASP when i get time Could be made from plastic or brass ..
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Well it certainly did a good job Sonny, looks brand new! I am surprised the Netherlands distributor for Evapo-Rust can not get it for you.
As for turbulators, those are just snake oil. In the automotive world there are so called turbulators (Tornado, for example) for installation in cars/trucks and the maker claims all sorts of fantastic results such as increased gas mileage and horsepower but they have been proven beyond the shadow of a doubt to be 1000% worthless at doing anything except relieving your wallet of money.
Intake turbulators
By placing a magically shaped piece of metal in the intake system of your car's engine, you can use the powerful force of a tornado to improve your fuel mileage.
Sorry but wrong again.
These devices simply create an extra choking effect in your vehicle's air intake system and that's been proven to actually *reduce* fuel efficiency, sometimes quite dramatically.
The fact is that the mix of air and fuel entering your car's engine is already extremely turbulent by the time it is ignited. Trying to add extra turbulence achieves absolutely nothing except making it harder for your engine to breathe.
And yes, scientific tests have proven that they simply don't work.
These intake turbulators are marketed under many names but perhaps the most well-known (and reviled) is the Tornado.
More stuff to avoid!
More:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ntake&gs_rfai=
As for turbulators, those are just snake oil. In the automotive world there are so called turbulators (Tornado, for example) for installation in cars/trucks and the maker claims all sorts of fantastic results such as increased gas mileage and horsepower but they have been proven beyond the shadow of a doubt to be 1000% worthless at doing anything except relieving your wallet of money.
Intake turbulators
By placing a magically shaped piece of metal in the intake system of your car's engine, you can use the powerful force of a tornado to improve your fuel mileage.
Sorry but wrong again.
These devices simply create an extra choking effect in your vehicle's air intake system and that's been proven to actually *reduce* fuel efficiency, sometimes quite dramatically.
The fact is that the mix of air and fuel entering your car's engine is already extremely turbulent by the time it is ignited. Trying to add extra turbulence achieves absolutely nothing except making it harder for your engine to breathe.
And yes, scientific tests have proven that they simply don't work.
These intake turbulators are marketed under many names but perhaps the most well-known (and reviled) is the Tornado.
More stuff to avoid!
More:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ntake&gs_rfai=
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Well it certainly did a good job Sonny, looks brand new! I am surprised the Netherlands distributor for Evapo-Rust can not get it for you.
I was not satisfied with the result completly, so I gave it another few dips, and now there is no rust left all.
Bearing still seem fine....but time will tell when i get it running again.
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Bearings just arrived in todays mail.
Bearings just arrived in todays mail.
I made good progress today on the engine.
I took a lot of the steel parts and placed them in a bath of Evapo-Rust. The crankshaft counterweight had some small flecks of surface rust on it, even though it had been previously cleaned and put into an oily plastic bag. BUt I did not have the Evapo-Rust two years ago. This time it really removed all of the rust.
I cleaned all the cylinders in denatured alcohol and installed them to the power section, aka crankcase. Then I installed a new bearing in the crankshaft center support housing, and then installed the support to the power section and installed the crankshaft into it.
Next I installed the #1 cylinder sleeve and the master rod and piston. This can be done two ways. Either install the cylinder and piston/rod first, then the center support and crankshaft. Or the way I did it, is to install the center support and crankshaft first and master rod/piston assembly next. My way is probably the harder way of doing it, but it works for me.
One by one I then installed each successive sleeve and piston/rod assembly, using Broken Wings' super duper Aeromet unobtanium link pins. Thanks John!
BTW, I washed each assembly first in denatured alcohol and then oiled the parts before installing. Oil is good, use it liberally.
I then removed the cam drum parts from the Evapo-Rust, rinsed in denatured alcohol, and blew dry them. I almost forgot to take the picture of the clean parts before I slopped oil on them!
So then I installed the cam drum and timing gears, spacers, etc.
And last item for today, I installed the nose case. I am replacing all the various screws with stainless steel versions.
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Tom,
You've done a superb job, And certainly set the bar high (I feel all embarrassed as mine looks like it came from a junk pile compared to yours!). Thanks for sharing, I look forward to seeing the video of the first run!
Paul.
You've done a superb job, And certainly set the bar high (I feel all embarrassed as mine looks like it came from a junk pile compared to yours!). Thanks for sharing, I look forward to seeing the video of the first run!
Paul.
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Kmot,
I just read thru this post and like most others I can't believe the work you are doing. FANTASTIC! [sm=regular_smile.gif] [sm=thumbs_up.gif]
AND, you've been at it for two and a half years. WOW.
Keep up the posts.
Charlie
I just read thru this post and like most others I can't believe the work you are doing. FANTASTIC! [sm=regular_smile.gif] [sm=thumbs_up.gif]
AND, you've been at it for two and a half years. WOW.
Keep up the posts.
Charlie