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Reson7 12-30-2010 11:22 AM

Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 
I have an Evo 61NX planning to put it on an airframe, but with the release of the new OS 65AX, I'm not entirely sure I want to put the Evo on, what are good vs bad for these engines?
I am really leaning towards the OS but the only thing holding me back is the prices mostly, so what makes this engine so good I should buy it over a Evo 61NX.

rambler53 12-30-2010 11:30 AM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 
If you purchased the Evo 61NX over OS when they made the 61FX, why make the AX65 even a consideration now?

Hobbsy 12-30-2010 11:33 AM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 
Looks alone would do it for me.

rambler53 12-30-2010 11:35 AM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 
A.K.A. The Radiator.

Evo price wins.

blw 12-30-2010 12:37 PM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 
Parts are about 40% of what OS charges.

The liner has fairly hard chrome that takes a few tanks to start loosening up. OS uses a nickel plate process.

Performance of any Evo glow engine that I've seen beats OS. Be sure to run a hotter plug than the OS 8.



I know these opinions will step on toes, but I'm being honest.

rambler53 12-30-2010 12:56 PM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 
I looked a the 61FX liner replacement cost, $99.99. http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCJ61&P=Z
OS parts prices make it unreasonable to ever considering a rebuild. Although the Super Tigre G61 ABC wasn't mentioned, the whole engine is just $20 more and they run great, true ABC engines also.
Buying an OS engine at today's prices with so many quality alternatives available in the market, I can't see taking the plunge. Go with the Evo. It's already in hand.

blw 12-30-2010 01:38 PM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 
Horizon Hobby has the .61 NT piston and liner for $31.50

NM2K 12-30-2010 02:13 PM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 

ORIGINAL: blw

Horizon Hobby has the .61 NT piston and liner for $31.50


Nitroplanes has the ASP .61 for $59.95 and it will hang in there with the OS powerwise and will probably stomp the Evolution .61NX in power, because it isn't a "real" .61.

The ASP .61 and the Evolution .61NX are made by the same manufacturer. If there is room in the nose of the model for the OS .65AX, then there is enough room for the ASP .61. Why waste $100 for no discernible difference in performance or longevity? I can pretty much afford what I want these days, but still, I don't throw away money for no reason. If you want a real performance boost for spending $200, buy the Rossi AXE .61.


Ed Cregger

blw 12-30-2010 07:04 PM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 
You are trying to divide my interests here because I like both ASP and Evo engines. Okay, why isn't the NX a true .61?

I've got to admit that I have never had a lot of interest in this size 2 stroke engine.

w8ye 12-30-2010 07:49 PM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 
The evolution NX 61 is a 0.596822318

Reson7 12-30-2010 11:16 PM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 
I was putting the 65AX into consideration because I still have my evo brand new in box, if I decided to go with OS I could sell it, plus everyone at my field says OS is better just get it, thats why I need to know

w8ye 12-31-2010 06:20 AM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 
The Evolution 61NX is a very nice engine

carrellh 12-31-2010 06:32 AM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 

ORIGINAL: RcPlaneLover777
I was putting the 65AX into consideration because I still have my evo brand new in box, if I decided to go with OS I could sell it, plus everyone at my field says OS is better just get it, thats why I need to know
You already have the EVO, so I think you should use it.
Even NIB you'll probably sell it at a huge loss which makes a different choice even more expensive.

NM2K 12-31-2010 07:17 AM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 


ORIGINAL: blw

You are trying to divide my interests here because I like both ASP and Evo engines. Okay, why isn't the NX a true .61?

I've got to admit that I have never had a lot of interest in this size 2 stroke engine.


I just read further down the forum and now realize that the OP already has the Evolution .61NX, so nix the ASP .61.

IIRC, Barry, the .61NX was built in a forty sized crankcase. That means that the induction path is not up to 10cc standards and the crankshaft induction pathway will be of a smaller diameter than an engine with a 15 or 17mm crankshaft. It's a great .40, but just not much of a .61. As I said, this is based upon my recollection of the details - which, of late, have been fuzzy to say the least.

Now, for the record, I'm planning on obtaining said Evolution .61NX myself. Just for kicks.


Ed Cregger

NM2K 12-31-2010 07:24 AM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 


ORIGINAL: w8ye

The evolution NX 61 is a 0.596822318



Dang, that's closer to 10cc than the Enya .61CX (truly a .58). Not that it matters all that much. I was thinking of the breathing restriction of being built in a 40 sized crankcase.

The .61NX would make a super engine for .40 - .55 intended models. But I'm not sure that it could successfully compete with 10cc pattern engines. Yeah, there I go again - relating everything to pattern performance. Sorry 'bout that.


Ed Cregger

carrellh 12-31-2010 07:46 AM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 
Ed, after I read your comments I looked it up.

There is a 60NX and a 61NX
60NX http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=EVOE0600
61NX http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=EVOE0611

The 60NX is a small case, light weight (17 ounces) design. They do not list a benchmark prop. Prop range listed is 10x7 - 13x6

The 61NX is the replacement for the 61NT. It is normal size and weight for a 61. HH says it has higher compression and more power than the NT. The benchmark prop is 12x6 @ 12000. Prop range listed is 11x7 - 13x7

NM2K 12-31-2010 07:47 AM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 


ORIGINAL: carrellh

Ed, after I read your comments I looked it up.

There is a 60NX and a 61NX
60NX http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=EVOE0600
61NX http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=EVOE0611

The 60NX is a small case, light weight (17 ounces) design. They do not list a benchmark prop. Prop range listed is 10x7 - 13x6

The 61NX is the replacement for the 61NT. It is normal size and weight for a 61. HH says it has higher compression and more power than the NT. The benchmark prop is 12x6 @ 12000. Prop range listed is 11x7 - 13x7


I stand corrected. Thank you very much. Happy New Year!


Ed Cregger

carrellh 12-31-2010 07:52 AM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 
The 60 sounds like a good choice for someone who wants to overpower a 40 size model without spending a pile of cash. It's $20 less than a 55AX.

blw 12-31-2010 08:00 AM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 
Ed, it was all good to talk about.

I haven't flown the .61 but I did mess around with an Evo 52 a couple of years ago and it has a lot of power.

The Evolution line has some quirks when it comes to what they market.

blhollo2 12-31-2010 08:11 AM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 
the OS 65ax is way more powerful, the evo 61 engine is lower quality and the head is made of low grade soft aluminum, the threads strip very easily..and the needle s are a bit fussy at times, the os engine is very easy to tune, break in and you barely have to retune it, its set it and forget it

rambler53 12-31-2010 10:55 AM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 

ORIGINAL: blhollo2

the OS 65ax is way more powerful, the evo 61 engine is lower quality and the head is made of low grade soft aluminum, the threads strip very easily..and the needle s are a bit fussy at times, the os engine is very easy to tune, break in and you barely have to retune it, its set it and forget it
Let's not get crazy about OS being more than it is and was, unless, you have numbers I can replicate? We're not talking about a Hanno Special with pump!
There is no set it and forget it anything, you should be tuning each and ever day you fly.

Hobbsy 12-31-2010 11:13 AM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 
Rambler, you cannot make that judgement for sombody else, if I wanted the OS .65 I would get it because if I settled for the lesser engine I would never ever be happy with it.

rambler53 12-31-2010 11:15 AM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 
You're right on that point, to each his own. But it appears most people never research any other brand, and those that do, agree OS praise goes way beyond what it really is, like the set it and forget it statement.

blhollo2 12-31-2010 12:07 PM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 

Let's not get crazy about OS being more than it is and was, unless, you have numbers I can replicate? We're not talking about a Hanno Special with pump!
There is no set it and forget it anything, you should be tuning each and ever day you fly.
Theres nothing crazying about a OS engine, the facts are there...they just work better look at the reviews..In my opinion they are very user friendly, and easier to tune and require "LESS" fiddling than most..its quality tight tolerances and well made. I've had the evo .40, 46. 60, 61,1.00 and they all needed attention when trying to set the needles. Ive had every type of OS engine as well and they have been nothing but simple to break in,tune and maintain..

blhollo2 12-31-2010 12:09 PM

RE: Evo 61nx vs O.S. 65AX
 

Rambler, you cannot make that judgement for sombody else, if I wanted the OS .65 I would get it because if I settled for the lesser engine I would never ever be happy with it.

Very true, the 65ax have more power,punch,kick whatever you want to call it..i think the 65ax will make you a happy flyer!


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