Leaking Super Tigre G90
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I'm hoping someone can help me with this. I have an old Super Tigre G90 that has a leak around the carb. Can anyone tell me if there is supposed to be some an o-ring or seal of some sort that fits around the HS needle body? The HS needle body was knocked off of the carb body when trying to use a stick to rotate the prop to start the motor. It looks like there should be an o-ring there. If so, does anyone know the size?
Attachment 2227212 Attachment 2227213 This looks like it is missing an o-ring or seal. Attachment 2227214 Attachment 2227215 |
I don't think they had an O-ring there.
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No o-ring there from the factory. However there is no need to be one present if the spraybar is intact. I'm 100% positive that carburetor needs a new spraybar assembly. The attached picture shows what the spraybar assembly should look like. Usually the .61, .75, and .90 have a flat spraybar unlike the round one I pictured. The same principle applies.
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I think I have a couple of extras, I'll see if I can fix you up
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I like an engine that has a carb that is designed from the start not to rely on o-rings that wear our or tear up. Less things to watch out for.
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There is more to this story than we are getting here.
You can see that someone has been diddling with that carb. The bolts which retain the spray bar have been chewed up. They don't come that way from the factory. That's the result of a hacker. In the first pic, you can see where near the top, both the spray bar and the carb body have been mangled. Marks are quite obvious. In the third pic, you can see the remains of where the long shaft end of the spray bar has been broken off the base. There is a crumpled looking bit sticking up by the needle valve. Fuel will come out there, not in the carb throat as intended. Super Tigre engines do not use an O-ring between the spray bar and carb body. The fit is quite precise. However, if you are trying to use broken parts and destroy the fit between the spray bar and the carb body, things won't work properly. |
Both round and flat spraybars have been used in the various SuperTigre engines. From the pictures, the spraybar is broken and completely useless. With a properly-fitting spraybar installed in the carburetor, fuel cannot leak between the spraybar and carburetor body. If the seating area was not cleaned from both components the last time they were taken apart and reassembled, foreign matter can get between them and a small leak can result.
Unfortunately, the parts are no longer available, so you'd have to locate them online somewhere. Try looking in the ad sections, here, on RCU. You may wind up having to buy a used carb or even full "parts" engine to effect repairs. |
Originally Posted by do335a
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There is more to this story than we are getting here.
You can see that someone has been diddling with that carb. The bolts which retain the spray bar have been chewed up. They don't come that way from the factory. That's the result of a hacker. In the first pic, you can see where near the top, both the spray bar and the carb body have been mangled. Marks are quite obvious. In the third pic, you can see the remains of where the long shaft end of the spray bar has been broken off the base. There is a crumpled looking bit sticking up by the needle valve. Fuel will come out there, not in the carb throat as intended. Super Tigre engines do not use an O-ring between the spray bar and carb body. The fit is quite precise. However, if you are trying to use broken parts and destroy the fit between the spray bar and the carb body, things won't work properly. |
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Originally Posted by 1QwkSport2.5r
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No o-ring there from the factory. However there is no need to be one present if the spraybar is intact. I'm 100% positive that carburetor needs a new spraybar assembly. The attached picture shows what the spraybar assembly should look like. Usually the .61, .75, and .90 have a flat spraybar unlike the round one I pictured. The same principle applies.
Attachment 2227372 In my first picture there is a screw and spring combo on top of the carb, what is that for? Attachment 2227375 |
Originally Posted by Bax
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Unfortunately, the parts are no longer available
Now, coming back in, replacement parts for this and that are almost non existent. Upgrading to 2.4ghz is expensive. But...we're flying. |
That is the idle speed screw with modern radios just back it out until the barrel is fully closed and set the idle speed with the radio. The internal spring stabilizes,the barrel,it keeps it from bouncing back and forth.
FL, see if you can measure the venturi diameter and the neck diameter. |
Originally Posted by Hobbsy
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I think I have a couple of extras, I'll see if I can fix you up
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As it turns out I had a spare that came along with engine when I bought it! Installed and runs like a scalded dog!
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It will idle and transition better if you point the inlet nipple at the rear motor mount bolt.
David |
Originally Posted by daveopam
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It will idle and transition better if you point the inlet nipple at the rear motor mount bolt.
David |
Good point. From my time with ST engines the 90's were among the easiest to tune. I ran 14x6 APC on mine and rarely touched the needle. I hope the OP has the same luck.
David |
Don't forget that there is a tiny O-ring with a spring behind it inside the needle valve outer shell. You have to look hard to see it if it has gotten hard and is stuck in there.
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Like this, and it resides in it's own little pocket.
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Your small block Ford equation is more like a 275 than a 255 LOL.
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Originally Posted by daveopam
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Good point. From my time with ST engines the 90's were among the easiest to tune. I ran 14x6 APC on mine and rarely touched the needle. I hope the OP has the same luck.
David |
By my calculation I get 255.2688304 cubic inches.
Radius==1.84 Radius squared==3.3856 3.3856 times 3.1416==10.6362 Times 3" stroke==31.908 cu. in. per cylinder Times ====255.27 rounded off a little. I had a ST .90 Diesel conversion, it turned a 14x7 3 blade at 8,500. |
I only have one ST engine, a G51 that I used extensively for 8 years and had the ring and bearings replaced. All this talk here is motivating me to build the next plane for it. I plan on building a Sig Kavalier for the G51. Should be a nice combo.
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